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April 29, 2016, 12:21:47 AM
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The whole universe is an ongoing scientific experiment to the open-minded scientist. There is unlimited proof that God exists, except of course, if there is a limit to the universe.

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Can you present even one of those science-based proofs here? What is your evidence?

To answer your first question, I don't know.

My evidence is that you get a response to your posts from something. It might be me.

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So once again you don't actually have any 'scientific proofs' of god. I was kind of hoping that you might have more than bombast to share this time. Sadly, I continue to hope in vain.



Why do you so often avoid the things that I say, and twist the things that you have said previously? I simply answered your question.

What was your question that I answered? It was (see above), "Can you present even one of those science-based proofs here?" My answer was, "I don't know."

The idea of having "scientific proofs" for the existence of God wasn't even in the question. So, how is it that you are telling me that I "don't actually have any 'scientific proofs' of god." Do you simply feel like saying something irrelevant to the question? Don't you realize that having proofs for something doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being able to present them in a post in the Bitcointalk forum?

If you are sincere in the things that you are saying, and are not deceitfully trying to push someone into saying something that doesn't have anything to do with what is being talked about, then you are extremely naive, and a bit lacking in intelligence. Personally, I think that you are being deceitful.

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i saw the face of Jeebus in a grilled cheese sammich. Now what more proof do you need that
the great and powerful  almighty invisible sky fairy exists?



"Our ignorance is God; what we know is science."  Robert Ingersoll

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and  i think  H L Mencken was right on the mark when he said this.....

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart"  Grin



The only difference between religion and superstition is the spelling.  (anon)

"The Christian god can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."  (Thomas Jefferson)

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April 30, 2016, 03:22:42 AM
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There is only one reason why atheists hate religion.

They have no God, they are always depending on their scientific theories.

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April 30, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
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There is only one reason why atheists hate religion.

They have no God, they are always depending on their scientific theories.

How about they just accepted the truth that not all hopes depends on miracles and you got yourself, family and friends to depend on when in times of crisis. Cause they dont need a ticket to heaven and not all atheist are bad as u think.

Just like me.

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There is only one reason why atheists hate religion.

They have no God, they are always depending on their scientific theories.

Show us God photo

everything was invented by men: books, cars, computers ... it was thanks to scientific knowledge, imagine if men stay waiting for miracles as the world would be? you would be naked until today

Who ever seen angels, demons, gods, fairies, unicorns, mermaids, ghosts,

in my opinion it was all created by the imagination of man.

How many wars are currently? many! many calamities are currently? many!

How depraved and pedophiles kidnap girls and women every day? Many!

WHERE IS GOD AND ANGELS to save ALL SUFFERING AT THIS TIME?

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April 30, 2016, 12:04:40 PM
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Atheism has one belief: . It is not a set of beliefs on the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.  and its wrong belief
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April 30, 2016, 08:19:00 PM
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Atheism has one belief: . It is not a set of beliefs on the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.  and its wrong belief

Atheism is absolutely nothing without atheists. Atheists have all the basics of attitude that other people have, even the idea that God exists, although they express otherwise. Therefore, atheism in people is a set of beliefs, including one big self-contradictory belief, which is the atheism itself.

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May 03, 2016, 10:12:07 PM
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Atheism has one belief: . It is not a set of beliefs on the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.  and its wrong belief

Atheism is absolutely nothing without atheists. Atheists have all the basics of attitude that other people have, even the idea that God exists, although they express otherwise. Therefore, atheism in people is a set of beliefs, including one big self-contradictory belief, which is the atheism itself.

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jeezus christ dude, you sound so frikkin absurd i cant even tell if you are trolling,
my bet is that you are...
 but either way... lmao !



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Atheism has one belief: . It is not a set of beliefs on the cause, nature, or purpose of the universe.  and its wrong belief

Atheism is absolutely nothing without atheists. Atheists have all the basics of attitude that other people have, even the idea that God exists, although they express otherwise. Therefore, atheism in people is a set of beliefs, including one big self-contradictory belief, which is the atheism itself.

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jeezus christ dude, you sound so frikkin absurd i cant even tell if you are trolling,
my bet is that you are...
 but either way... lmao !



"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

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Absurd? In what way? I can sit down and explain why atheism is absurd. But all you can say is I am absurd, since you don't have any way to explain away anything that I say with logic that makes any sense.

A bunch of people who don't believe in God, watch a bunch of other people scam the true believers, and then these unbelievers badmouth Christianity. Each individual's bad-mouthing or Christianity - which ever it might be - only lasts for a max of a hundred years or so (except in a few rare cases). Then the bad-mouthing unbelievers go off to judgment for Hell and eternal death, while the true Christians go off to judgment for eternal life in glory and joy.

While the apparent crooks in the church sneakily gather in the money, God is quietly gathering His holy people for eternal life.

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May 04, 2016, 08:26:27 AM
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i do not know why they hate religion but this is for sure that they dont want to see the reality of life with religion and they are acting like a coward to face the hard reality.

Second Corinthians 4:4:
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The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

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All religion is all bullshit and if you believe in all that shit in your shitty books ..Then go and kill yourself it's waste of a human life..

1..you like religion because your mum dad spouse told you too?

2 you like religion because your rich and can't believe how lucky you are so must be a god?

3 you like religion because your so poor and the place of worship gives you food and your also praying for something good to happen because your life is so shit?

4 you like religion because your NUTS?

I have a cousin who is religious because his father preaching the bible to him his father was on smack..So the son smokes weed losses the plot now he preaches the bible like a nutter..we section him every so many months because he goes crazy over religion and it's scary..
He cuts him self to repent ..

So i know what religion can do if a person is not doing to good..

No jobs kids get bored because no money no life so they turn to religion and pick all the angry bits out of there manuals and drum it in there heads
they become violent angry because they already feel like this because of no money jobs to keep them busy..

Also a lot turn to religion in jails..why..
POINT 1 they get out of there cells
point 2 they can pass drugs to other parts of the jails because they all meet in the church..
point 3 they can talk to other people instead of being bored stuck in there cells..

I like all races of people i grew up with a hindu..I went to the same school same class same football team i looked at him no different than any other human he was a good friend..

The Muslim belief is like what Christians where like 300 years ago.But it's the 21st century and we let cave men enter our country with olden day beliefs going to be clashes..So in the end the Super rich won?

This is why i hate all religion it enslaves you and if you don't see it then good luck with your life..

If all the religious books took all the hate and vengeance out of the books so no one can say well god said it's ok to do this to the non believers
then I am willing to give religion ago..
But i know the poor  and people who have troubles with there lives can turn to religion and brain wash themselves to think that hurting somebody is ok as long as it's for your god..GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT Cheesy..No he never your making it all up Grin

DIE RELIGION I HATE YOU. life would be so much better without it..But i suppose it sells bombs and weapons to line a persons also a politicians pocket..

120k for hellfire or brimstone smart bombs..YER 30K TO MAKE REST GETs SLOTTED BY WHO? build homes not bombs this is where tax payers money should be spent ..the country is getting robbed by politics.

religion as been causing murder for 5 thousand years..Enough is Enough ..

P.S if your doing well in life religion will be no problem because you cut all the bad bits out and take the good because your doing good..but if life is not so good then religion can become a burden on your mind..oh i forgot to mention this is to the average human..
Wont apply to the super rich the top guys they want WAR..BIG BUSINESS..To have all that power and turn the planet to shit shame on you fuckers..

You bet your life i am pissed off because my gran children have to live in this shit hole planet run by toffs who know fuck all about real life




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This is my last post on politics I am sick to the back teeth of reading religious nutters you talk BULLSHIT..And I am sick of repeating BULLSHIT.

Die religion it's so out dated..To all leaders you are all fucking useless even your money will kill your off spring all the money in the world wont help you if you don't start to think about the rest of the world and not yourself..CLOCK IS TICKING..

LEADERS..We voted you in to look after the people not line your own pockets..

It's time to pay our leaders more money 5 million for the 5 years but if you get caught fiddling to make more money 20 years in jail and you will go..

by paying more money less chance taking back handers.. Footballers are on  Shocked leaders get paid peanuts compared to footballers..So what do you think these leaders will do if they get a chance to make money on the sly..they will make it like most people would..

So we need to sort this main problem out because it's the biggest problem..

THIS IS IT FOR ME I HAVE SAID ENOUGH I AM GOING TO GET ON WITH MY LIFE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SHORT TO BE PISSED OFF..

So to all on this thread GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR LIVES I HOPE YOU GET WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR IN LIFE
AND MAY YOU LIVE LONG AND PROSPER..

OH AND DON'T FORGET TO RECYCLE YOUR PLASTIC..

P.S Leaders sort this planet out for the good your gran children have to live on this planet no matter how much money you got make it a happy planet for everybody not just yourself...Good bye everyone. back to trading btc and spotting scams Grin Grin

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All religion is all bullshit and if you believe in all that shit in your shitty books ..Then go and kill yourself it's waste of a human life..
Do you drink milk, or eat cheese, or drink buttermilk, or eat cottage cheese, or partake of any dairy products? You should. Many of them are really tasty.

Get out to the farm sometime, and look for the bull. Bull excrement is real; it is part of nature; it is part of the thing that makes dairy products; it is part of enjoyment of life.

The reason for life is for our enjoyment. If you would rather not have enjoyment, I suppose you could go out and kill yourself.



1..you like religion because your mum dad spouse told you too?

2 you like religion because your rich and can't believe how lucky you are so must be a god?

3 you like religion because your so poor and the place of worship gives you food and your also praying for something good to happen because your life is so shit?

4 you like religion because your NUTS?
People are beings of religion. It isn't about liking it or not. It is about nature. We simply are that way. If we didn't have formal religion, we'd invent it, because we are that kind of creatures.



I have a cousin who is religious because his father preaching the bible to him his father was on smack..So the son smokes weed losses the plot now he preaches the bible like a nutter..we section him every so many months because he goes crazy over religion and it's scary..
He cuts him self to repent ..

So i know what religion can do if a person is not doing to good..
So, why don't you get yourself to a good group of people? You don't have to follow the nuts around. There are many good people who have good formal religion, or haven't you taken the time to notice?



No jobs kids get bored because no money no life so they turn to religion and pick all the angry bits out of there manuals and drum it in there heads
they become violent angry because they already feel like this because of no money jobs to keep them busy..
But there are many who do things differently. There are poor black people who have gone to school, withstood all the problems of racial attacks, and gone on to become great lawyers, judges, doctors, philosophers, etc.  Isn't it time for you to focus your life in a good direction? After all, wherever you focus your life is part of your religion.



Also a lot turn to religion in jails..why..
POINT 1 they get out of there cells
point 2 they can pass drugs to other parts of the jails because they all meet in the church..
point 3 they can talk to other people instead of being bored stuck in there cells..
The reason they are in the jails in the first place is because of their personal religion of crime, or at least their personal religion of ignorance. They are being given the chance to turn to a good religion. If they twist and use it incorrectly, that is their religion.



I like all races of people i grew up with a hindu..I went to the same school same class same football team i looked at him no different than any other human he was a good friend..
Person to person, this is the way it should be. You were right in doing this.



The Muslim belief is like what Christians where like 300 years ago.But it's the 21st century and we let cave men enter our country with olden day beliefs going to be clashes..So in the end the Super rich won?
The so-called cave men were often smarter than we are. Why? Because of entropy. There is way more to all this than you are saying.



This is why i hate all religion it enslaves you and if you don't see it then good luck with your life..
This is the point. Everyone is enslaved by his own personal religion. It is his nature to be religious in the way that he is religious.

People want freedom. Gravity won't let us jump to the moon. We are slaves of gravity. But it is a good thing that we are slaves of gravity. If we jumped to the moon, we would die in space of the bitter cold and airlessness.

Religion is like that. It maintains our bounds for us. If we didn't have these bounds, we would die for lack of taking the time to "religiously" eat, or even "religiously" breathe.



If all the religious books took all the hate and vengeance out of the books so no one can say well god said it's ok to do this to the non believers
then I am willing to give religion ago..
But i know the poor  and people who have troubles with there lives can turn to religion and brain wash themselves to think that hurting somebody is ok as long as it's for your god..GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT Cheesy..No he never your making it all up Grin
It is admirable of you to have a personal religion that only wants to do good. But do you really think that people would do only good if all the expressions of bad were suddenly taken out of the world? No, of course not. People would invent the bad words all over again, to match the bad things that they kept on doing.

You don't have to be this way. And you can't control other people to make them good. Rather, live your personal religion of goodness, and there will be others who will see and follow your way. It won't be everyone, of course. But there will be some.



DIE RELIGION I HATE YOU. life would be so much better without it..But i suppose it sells bombs and weapons to line a persons also a politicians pocket..
Don't you see what you are really saying? You are starting to focus on suicide. You can't get away from who you are except by death. If you murder yourself, the Almighty God over all will ultimately punish you in the resurrection, because He made you to be the religious being you are, and wants you to stay the course for as long as you can.



120k for hellfire or brimstone smart bombs..YER 30K TO MAKE REST GETs SLOTTED BY WHO? build homes not bombs this is where tax payers money should be spent ..the country is getting robbed by politics.

religion as been causing murder for 5 thousand years..Enough is Enough ..
Actually, it is people trying to get away from religion - people who have a religion of non-religion - who have been causing much of the evil in the world.



P.S if your doing well in life religion will be no problem because you cut all the bad bits out and take the good because your doing good..but if life is not so good then religion can become a burden on your mind..oh i forgot to mention this is to the average human..
Wont apply to the super rich the top guys they want WAR..BIG BUSINESS..To have all that power and turn the planet to shit shame on you fuckers..
Rather, isn't it time for you to focus on your personal religion of goodness, and perhaps learn a formal religion that can make you even better, and then work for peace? It is all you can do. Allowing yourself to look at your pain all the time, and to focus on the bad in religion rather than the good, is gradually destroying you, and making your solutions to the problems of mankind to be ineffective.



You bet your life i am pissed off because my gran children have to live in this shit hole planet run by toffs who know fuck all about real life


God loves you. That's why you and most people won't live more than about 100 years. God doesn't want you to have to live in the pain and problems.

The thing that God is trying to do with all of us is to get us to do good. The best good we can do is to believe in His salvation that He has prepared for us in Jesus, His Son. The next is to teach others about this same salvation. The third is to do literal good to people in this life.

Accepting life and religion the way God has prepared it for us, will bring us into the New Heavens and the New Earth, a life with God in joy and glory and love and peace and righteousness, forever.

Am I being pessimistic when I say that I expect that you will remain in your religion of "anti-religionism?"

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May 04, 2016, 04:46:08 PM
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Because religion is poking his nose everywhere! It imposes its way of life and worldview. Bustle of the laws of the state, the school decides that people love, some listen to music, that is, how to live, and so on.
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Because religion is poking his nose everywhere! It imposes its way of life and worldview. Bustle of the laws of the state, the school decides that people love, some listen to music, that is, how to live, and so on.

True, they just trying to make more and more money from blind people and it's so sad. But as far as i know atheists don't hate religion, they just don't care about it.

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God loves you. That's why you and most people won't live more than about 100 years. God doesn't want you to have to live in the pain and problems.

The thing that God is trying to do with all of us is to get us to do good. The best good we can do is to believe in His salvation that He has prepared for us in Jesus, His Son. The next is to teach others about this same salvation. The third is to do literal good to people in this life.

Accepting life and religion the way God has prepared it for us, will bring us into the New Heavens and the New Earth, a life with God in joy and glory and love and peace and righteousness, forever.

Am I being pessimistic when I say that I expect that you will remain in your religion of "anti-religionism?"

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Tell my one good deed that i cant do because i dont believe all your superstitious bible nonsense.
i ABSOLUTLY agree with your 3rd point "do literal good to people in this life".
but why do i need to believe in your magic imaginary sky fairy to accomplish this?
Atheists can and do indeed do all the good things a believer can do, they just dont dont need to get approval from
a non existant mythical god.
Sometimes I laugh at people like you who cling to ancient beliefs in gods in the hopes of some after life
in some utopian garden of eden heaven fairy tale.
or whatever it is that religion does to float your boat. But then it makes me sad. Why? Why do people
believe in this absurd silliness?
It really baffles me that in this day and age of modern science that perfectly intelligent people who will
profess to obviously not believe in fairys and lepracauns, unicorns and Santa Claus and the easter bunny
 but still believe in rising from the dead, immaculate conception, talking snakes and bushes flying horses, noahs arc, adam and eve and other bible nonsense.

Hey tell me where is this Heaven anyway? What do people do in heaven? Do they have jobs? drive cars?
live in a house? Hey are there churches in heaven? Are you allowed to drink in heaven?
I mean if you are there for eternity it seems to me you need to do something besides praying all day long.

Dude, let it go man. Stop deluding yourself.
belief without valid reason is valid reason not to believe.

"The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected."
-- H L Mencken, in American Mercury (March, 1930)


"For ages, a deadly conflict has been waged between a few brave men and women of thought and genius upon the one side, and the great ignorant
religious mass on the other. This is the war between Science and Faith. The few have appealed to reason, to honor, to law, to freedom, to the known,
and to happiness here in this world. The many have appealed to prejudice, to fear, to miracle, to slavery, to the unknown, and to misery hereafter.
The few have said, "Think!" The many have said, "Believe!"

 Robert  Ingersoll




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God loves you. That's why you and most people won't live more than about 100 years. God doesn't want you to have to live in the pain and problems.

The thing that God is trying to do with all of us is to get us to do good. The best good we can do is to believe in His salvation that He has prepared for us in Jesus, His Son. The next is to teach others about this same salvation. The third is to do literal good to people in this life.

Accepting life and religion the way God has prepared it for us, will bring us into the New Heavens and the New Earth, a life with God in joy and glory and love and peace and righteousness, forever.

Am I being pessimistic when I say that I expect that you will remain in your religion of "anti-religionism?"

Cool



 
Tell my one good deed that i cant do because i dont believe all your superstitious bible nonsense.
i ABSOLUTLY agree with your 3rd point "do literal good to people in this life".
but why do i need to believe in your magic imaginary sky fairy to accomplish this?
Atheists can and do indeed do all the good things a believer can do, they just dont dont need to get approval from
a non existant mythical god.
Okay. So you don't understand that science and nature have proven that God exists, and you are unwilling to look at the evidence for this fact.

Perhaps you absolutely COULD look at the evidence and understand for yourself that God exists. This is one good work you are not doing.

The most important good work that you can't do by not believing is, you can't set yourself into position whereby you will obtain eternal life. This is the best good work that anyone can do. And why should I explain why? Waste my time.


Sometimes I laugh at people like you who cling to ancient beliefs in gods in the hopes of some after life
in some utopian garden of eden heaven fairy tale.
or whatever it is that religion does to float your boat. But then it makes me sad. Why? Why do people
believe in this absurd silliness?
It really baffles me that in this day and age of modern science that perfectly intelligent people who will
profess to obviously not believe in fairys and lepracauns, unicorns and Santa Claus and the easter bunny
 but still believe in rising from the dead, immaculate conception, talking snakes and bushes flying horses, noahs arc, adam and eve and other bible nonsense.
Hey, man. It is acceptable that you don't accept eternal life. And since you have set yourself into your way of not allowing yourself to be shown the "stuff" regarding salvation, I guess it won't be until the resurrection and the judgment that you will find out.

However, I commend you for taking the time to be mirthful. If you don't change and understand that God exists, and then believe what He tells you in religion, you need to get all the joy you can while you live here, because that will be it for you and joy.



Hey tell me where is this Heaven anyway? What do people do in heaven? Do they have jobs? drive cars?
live in a house? Hey are there churches in heaven? Are you allowed to drink in heaven?
I mean if you are there for eternity it seems to me you need to do something besides praying all day long.
Perhaps you are blind. But if you are not, look up at the sky at night and see part of the heavens of this universe. The Heaven of Heavens is much more glorious than this.




Dude, let it go man. Stop deluding yourself.
belief without valid reason is valid reason not to believe.
Come and see the proof that God exists. Combine cause and effect with complexity with entropy and see that the way these work in our universe prove that God exists.

In addition, all our machinery comes from the big machine that is the universe... which machine is way beyond anything that we presently understand, and certainly beyond what we can make. Our machines are made by some person or groups of people. But machine universe is made by God.



"The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected."
-- H L Mencken, in American Mercury (March, 1930)


"For ages, a deadly conflict has been waged between a few brave men and women of thought and genius upon the one side, and the great ignorant
religious mass on the other. This is the war between Science and Faith. The few have appealed to reason, to honor, to law, to freedom, to the known,
and to happiness here in this world. The many have appealed to prejudice, to fear, to miracle, to slavery, to the unknown, and to misery hereafter.
The few have said, "Think!" The many have said, "Believe!"

 Robert  Ingersoll


If believing in God was a form of blind faith, perhaps theists would be some of the most pathetic people around. But since God is proven in many ways in heart and soul, in addition to the ones I mentioned above, faith turns out to be believing in what God has told us rather than in His existence. Thus, faith is not blind faith.

Wake up while you still have time.

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Atheists don't hate religion... religion hates atheists
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Come and see the proof that God exists. Combine cause and effect with complexity with entropy and see that the way these work in our universe prove that God exists.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you could somehow prove the universe had a creator...

Can you prove it was only 1 god, and not 3 or 50 gods working together?

Can you prove it was not the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?




Can you prove the universe was created by the Christian God?
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Atheists don't hate religion... religion hates atheists

The major reason atheists hate religion is, their atheism religion is self-destructing, and atheists are left with nothing.

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