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July 26, 2016, 07:04:24 AM
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I don't think atheists, in general, hate religion. It's just that they're looking at things quite differently, seeing beyond religious restrictions.

Yes. In my opinion are religious people the more ignorant ones compared to atheists. Just look at all these terror attacks lately, all done by religious people not by atheists.

The trouble is, the more an atheist becomes atheistic, the more he becomes religious about his atheism. It's the same with people of any other religion.

People are people. People are religious beings. Just because some people want to classify atheism outside of religion, doesn't stop it from being a religion. All they are doing is showing that atheism is essentially a religion of non-religion.

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I think humans are spiritual beings by default, not religious. Religion is something almost the same as "law" or "government" - it is meant to be only highly beneficial for those who pull the levers behind the curtains and in effect steer the path of millions, who like sheep are led most often to the slaughterhouses and not to those so-called promised "green pastures", as are propagated as actual truth by the clergy of these institutions. This is sad but mostly true I believe.



The weak spirits that humans are wouldn't be able to do anything at all without bodies. And bodies need the universe to operate the way they do.

Religion is simply the theme that everyone lives by. Look it up in various dictionaries.

There are con artists all over, in everything. Why would anyone expect that there aren't any in religion? But many (most?) people are sincere in what they are doing, both in religion, and in everything else.

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July 26, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
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most atheists have a negative opinion of religion because of its oppressive nature and the harm that it causes to hold unfounded beliefs.
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July 26, 2016, 08:34:25 AM
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most atheists have a negative opinion of religion because of its oppressive nature and the harm that it causes to hold unfounded beliefs.

That is not true. It is more religious people having a negative opinion about different religions. Every religious person except maybe Buddhists view there own god as the real one and the other just fake...seems pretty ignorant to me.
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July 26, 2016, 02:58:30 PM
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The assumption is incorrect. Atheism is not defined as hatred for religion, but absence of belief in god.
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July 26, 2016, 05:07:39 PM
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The assumption is incorrect. Atheism is not defined as hatred for religion, but absence of belief in god.
Personally, my opinion is. Many religious fanatics. Have faith that absolutely can not be compared with that faith, which have some atheists. God is not on the icons in cathedrals, churches. The true God in the soul. If a person does not attend Mass service. He does not wear a cross. He does not know on izust prayers. All this does not mean that it does not not believe in anything. It can talk about that. That man, just know the true God.
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July 27, 2016, 02:07:31 AM
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Being Atheists doesn't mean they hate religion. I think the only reason why they became atheist was because they do not agree with the religion itself, but not HATING it. Some people may rather believe on themselves than believe in God (or other Gods). To believe on what they think is right and just. To settle for what they think is good for them and for the people around them.

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July 27, 2016, 06:17:17 AM
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When people with strongly held beliefs hate; Atheists hate religious people for the very same reasons as religious people hate atheists.. each side thinks they have seen the light and that the other is living in ignorance. Atheists can see no point in living a life believing in something that doesn't exist and religious people see no point in living a life where something bigger than themselves doesn't exist.
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July 27, 2016, 07:05:01 AM
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Being Atheists doesn't mean they hate religion. I think the only reason why they became atheist was because they do not agree with the religion itself, but not HATING it. Some people may rather believe on themselves than believe in God (or other Gods). To believe on what they think is right and just. To settle for what they think is good for them and for the people around them.
You are right, but not quite. Many atheists, it is not interested in religion in general. They do not mind not over. They just do not want to burden themselves with the rules and what to drive themselves in a certain style. The more that representatives of different confessions, still have not found a common language with each other. So why, other people, they must piously believe in the word ?!

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July 27, 2016, 07:14:52 AM
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When people with strongly held beliefs hate; Atheists hate religious people for the very same reasons as religious people hate atheists.. each side thinks they have seen the light and that the other is living in ignorance. Atheists can see no point in living a life believing in something that doesn't exist and religious people see no point in living a life where something bigger than themselves doesn't exist.

Fierce People there are among the atheists and the believers. In the story, not a few examples of that. The Crusades, witch burning at the stake, the Holy Inquisition has created quite a few terrible deeds. As ardent atheists destroyed the church, they arrested Ikazń clergymen. True faith is never forced. Likewise, atheism is only a belief in themselves and not something terrible.

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July 27, 2016, 11:07:37 AM
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Just a thought.

When the earth was barely created, there was darkness all around. So, If a person is completely blind, he is living in darkness. This begs the question. Is it the atheists who are blind? the theists? or all of us?

Maybe we are living in pre-creation times, when there was no light of the soul at all.

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July 30, 2016, 03:16:04 PM
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Just a thought.

When the earth was barely created, there was darkness all around. So, If a person is completely blind, he is living in darkness. This begs the question. Is it the atheists who are blind? the theists? or all of us?

Maybe we are living in pre-creation times, when there was no light of the soul at all.

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I'll go out on a limb here and say that brilliant pearl of wisdom won't be appearing in any
collection of religious quotes anytime soon....


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July 30, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
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but heres a good George Carlin one that always pops up....

    "Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it, religion has actually convinced people
that there's an INVISIBLE MAN...LIVING IN THE SKY...who watches every thing you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a list of ten special things that he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things,
he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send to live and suffer and burn
and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever ´til the end of time...but he loves you."

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July 30, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
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Religion doesn't convey spirit.  Religion conveys dogma.  Religion governs the minds while government destroys what is holy and of spirit.

Spirit is found in nature, in fungus and in vines.  Man has used nature for all of history to connect with the divine.

We are all of god, atheist and not.  To see with god or to believe is to find unity with creation and nature.
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July 30, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
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When people with strongly held beliefs hate; Atheists hate religious people for the very same reasons as religious people hate atheists.. each side thinks they have seen the light and that the other is living in ignorance. Atheists can see no point in living a life believing in something that doesn't exist and religious people see no point in living a life where something bigger than themselves doesn't exist.

Fierce People there are among the atheists and the believers. In the story, not a few examples of that. The Crusades, witch burning at the stake, the Holy Inquisition has created quite a few terrible deeds. As ardent atheists destroyed the church, they arrested Ikazń clergymen. True faith is never forced. Likewise, atheism is only a belief in themselves and not something terrible.

Really thick and dumb people killing in the name of religion even crusaders, not much has changed since then.
Even presidents are at it, they think that absolution is real and forthcoming, if they admit crimes against humanity.
Truth is they just become dust in the earth like the rest of us, nothing else.

And its gone.
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July 30, 2016, 04:56:41 PM
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but heres a good George Carlin one that always pops up....

    "Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it, religion has actually convinced people
that there's an INVISIBLE MAN...LIVING IN THE SKY...who watches every thing you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a list of ten special things that he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things,
he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send to live and suffer and burn
and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever ´til the end of time...but he loves you."

If you take the responsibility that either condemn or challenge. Try to start to understand the essence of the question. Firstly, it is God everywhere and not just in the sky. Even you are created in the image and likeness of God. So, a particle of God, and you have. Whether you like it or not. You ridiculed the commandments of God. But what's wrong, if people do not kill each other, do not rob and steal, husbands and wives, cease to change each other? You can certainly live by their own rules. But chances are you just afraid of God's judgment. That and trying to convince themselves and others that there is no god. You it's easier to live, breaking all the commandments of God. But do not be fooled. The time will come and everyone will be rewarded according to merit.
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July 30, 2016, 08:29:55 PM
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but heres a good George Carlin one that always pops up....

    "Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it, religion has actually convinced people
that there's an INVISIBLE MAN...LIVING IN THE SKY...who watches every thing you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a list of ten special things that he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things,
he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send to live and suffer and burn
and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever ´til the end of time...but he loves you."


What of it? This is simply the George Carlin variation of religion.   Cool

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July 30, 2016, 08:37:40 PM
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Religion doesn't convey spirit.  Religion conveys dogma.  Religion governs the minds while government destroys what is holy and of spirit.

Spirit is found in nature, in fungus and in vines.  Man has used nature for all of history to connect with the divine.

We are all of god, atheist and not.  To see with god or to believe is to find unity with creation and nature.

We are dogmatic people. The animals are not quite as dogmatic as we.

Spirit in us is darkness being given the light of the dogma of material and energy laws, many of which we find expressed in science.

We all have a touch of God in the way that a tiny, young infant has a touch of his parent. God gave us material to exercise our spirits, spirits which are so weak that without material to exercise them, they could do nothing. So far we barely move beyond material things when we exercise spirit. And fighting against God by disobedience to Him destroys the little bit of spirit we have.

God is His own self, besides being the thing that He portrays Himself as when He shines through our spirits a little.

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July 30, 2016, 08:43:47 PM
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When people with strongly held beliefs hate; Atheists hate religious people for the very same reasons as religious people hate atheists.. each side thinks they have seen the light and that the other is living in ignorance. Atheists can see no point in living a life believing in something that doesn't exist and religious people see no point in living a life where something bigger than themselves doesn't exist.

Fierce People there are among the atheists and the believers. In the story, not a few examples of that. The Crusades, witch burning at the stake, the Holy Inquisition has created quite a few terrible deeds. As ardent atheists destroyed the church, they arrested Ikazń clergymen. True faith is never forced. Likewise, atheism is only a belief in themselves and not something terrible.

Really thick and dumb people killing in the name of religion even crusaders, not much has changed since then.
Even presidents are at it, they think that absolution is real and forthcoming, if they admit crimes against humanity.
Truth is they just become dust in the earth like the rest of us, nothing else.

And atheistic governmental leaders of the past have been among the worst. Just because Hitler seemed to acknowledge the Church a little, doesn't mean he believe. It was a political ploy. And consider the ever-to-be-cursed Stalin; and Mao; and Pol Pot; and even Genghis Khan, who although religious, didn't really recognize theism with a certainty. Hundreds of millions dead from atheism.

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If religion is to have a positive role in societies the upside-down twisted power- and money based structure of religion has to change (turn around). In stead of you paying God/s/dess/desses for favors, absolution of sins, acceptance, redemption, revelation, bliss, enlightenment, entrance into heaven etc.,  He, Them, She, They, It should be rewarding you financially for all your magnificent deeds/thoughts/intentions. It's the God followers who has to be rewarded not the other way around. The divine don't need or want nothing from mere humans. Why then do the divine demand we give and give and give till all our monies are up and the divine is now even more divine than ever before with all the extra monies received? When will the divine change their divine attitude and realize we are but wanting humans, lacking so much?

I have been praying for soo long that GOd wil let plenty gigantic meteorites hit the earth everywhere people live but it must be ones with tons and tons of diamonds and gold attached and it must be really really huge - with enough diamonds to take away all the bad debt earthlings have accumulated for so long. We really need God to do this so our civilizations can be liberated - I know this is what the goddesses want too. Anyone help me pray so we earhlings can be liberated please. They monetary value of meteorites will erase all earthly debt. I'm sure Gods will agree. After this gods can establish her heavenly queendom here on earth and we all live happily ever after.



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July 31, 2016, 05:14:14 AM
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but heres a good George Carlin one that always pops up....

    "Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it, religion has actually convinced people
that there's an INVISIBLE MAN...LIVING IN THE SKY...who watches every thing you do, every minute of every day.
And the invisible man has a list of ten special things that he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things,
he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send to live and suffer and burn
and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever ´til the end of time...but he loves you."

If you take the responsibility that either condemn or challenge. Try to start to understand the essence of the question. Firstly, it is God everywhere and not just in the sky. Even you are created in the image and likeness of God. So, a particle of God, and you have. Whether you like it or not. You ridiculed the commandments of God. But what's wrong, if people do not kill each other, do not rob and steal, husbands and wives, cease to change each other? You can certainly live by their own rules. But chances are you just afraid of God's judgment. That and trying to convince themselves and others that there is no god. You it's easier to live, breaking all the commandments of God. But do not be fooled. The time will come and everyone will be rewarded according to merit.

i quoted george carlin ridiculing people believing in an invisible man in sky who will send you to burn eternally
in  some mythical fire filled place if you dont do 10 things, but he loves you

show me where i said its not wrong to kill and rob and steal.
the rest of your post is just the usual pious drivel

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