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October 18, 2016, 08:33:56 AM
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For me nowadays one cannot take the bible as literally true. It has different versions,been rewritten but the truth is in there.
In the beginning was the word
The word is a sound,a vibration, a frequency,it is this sound,vibration,frequency that moved upon the waters and seperated the waters below from the waters above.
God can be found within you, if you have fear not joy in your heart your vessel will not be vibrating at this correct frequency and you will sink and god cannot save you.
If you you do not recognise god then god cannot recognise you.


Jesus tells us that the Word, the Bible, is the thing that testifies about Him. Your little quote shows that Jesus, Himself is the Word. When you have the Word in you, you have Jesus in you. Then Jesus salvation will save you from death, even though you seem to pass through it.

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Ok but god the creator did not write the bible
"Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."


You are also a son of god,we are all gods children
Then who are the sons of the evil one that Jesus talks about?


Question. Your words 'little quote' belittle me, was this intentional?

Your little quote is from the first chapter in Book of John in the Bible. The quote is, "In the beginning was the word."

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I think one can be too religious in ones thinking one should retain more freedom.
We can debate the books all day long
These great books are open to interpretation.

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October 18, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
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For me nowadays one cannot take the bible as literally true. It has different versions,been rewritten but the truth is in there.
In the beginning was the word
The word is a sound,a vibration, a frequency,it is this sound,vibration,frequency that moved upon the waters and seperated the waters below from the waters above.
God can be found within you, if you have fear not joy in your heart your vessel will not be vibrating at this correct frequency and you will sink and god cannot save you.
If you you do not recognise god then god cannot recognise you.


Jesus tells us that the Word, the Bible, is the thing that testifies about Him. Your little quote shows that Jesus, Himself is the Word. When you have the Word in you, you have Jesus in you. Then Jesus salvation will save you from death, even though you seem to pass through it.

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Ok but god the creator did not write the bible
"Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."


You are also a son of god,we are all gods children
Then who are the sons of the evil one that Jesus talks about?


Question. Your words 'little quote' belittle me, was this intentional?

Your little quote is from the first chapter in Book of John in the Bible. The quote is, "In the beginning was the word."

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I think one can be too religious in ones thinking one should remain more freedom.
What does too religious mean? Believing and obeying God completely is the thing that would cause a person to have a perfect life, if he could do it.


We can debate the books all day long
What books do you mean? The Library of Congress has many books. And why bring this up? It is common knowledge.


These great books are open to interpretation.

If you are talking about the Bible, the Holy Spirit is the only one Who can correctly interpret it to your heart. The way to get Holy Spirit interpretation, is to get the Bible into yourself by reading, and listening Bible CDs. The Holy Spirit will do the rest.

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October 18, 2016, 09:24:26 AM
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You seem quite happy and set in your thinking so we must leave this here in order not to offend.
i will say goodbye and i hope you do farewell.
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October 18, 2016, 11:18:18 AM
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No need to generalize. There are in fact the ones that do not make the problem of religion. Living in peace and not try to impose their views on others.

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October 18, 2016, 11:45:01 AM
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No need to generalize. There are in fact the ones that do not make the problem of religion. Living in peace and not try to impose their views on others.

I agree.

Some don't necessarily hate religion, but they just don't like associating with other people that impose their beliefs to those who think differently from them

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October 18, 2016, 01:59:11 PM
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No need to generalize. There are in fact the ones that do not make the problem of religion. Living in peace and not try to impose their views on others.

I agree.

Some don't necessarily hate religion, but they just don't like associating with other people that impose their beliefs to those who think differently from them

Right. Stop imposing the religion of science theory like Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory on our kids in the public schools.

Teach the kids reading, writing and arithmetic in school. Forget all the other nonsense, except if the kids and their parents want to go that route.

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October 18, 2016, 06:06:58 PM
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October 18, 2016, 06:44:50 PM
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What does too religious mean?

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It means a person that has been totally consumed by the evil so much, they tell others they are going to burn in hell if they don't follow their own contorted beliefs.

When the wretched overly religious soul sinks to this stage, little can be done to steer their misguided ship back on course.

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October 18, 2016, 07:22:28 PM
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Note his excelent(sp) spelling... your(sp) escentially(sp) a disgrace... It even says so in the bible

I'm rather impressed... this guy used both your and you're incorrectly

Now go cook me a hot meal, "the way you're(sp) husband and god intended"

Edit: I just noticed the "make 'Murica great again" at the bottom... who woulda guessed a Trump fan?

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October 19, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
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What does too religious mean?

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It means a person that has been totally consumed by the evil so much, they tell others they are going to burn in hell if they don't follow their own contorted beliefs.

When the wretched overly religious soul sinks to this stage, little can be done to steer their misguided ship back on course.


The best you can hope for when they reach this point is that the ship sinks and takes only them with it. The unfortunate reality is that they try to drag as many others as they can with them.
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October 19, 2016, 12:21:22 AM
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No need to generalize. There are in fact the ones that do not make the problem of religion. Living in peace and not try to impose their views on others.

I agree.

Some don't necessarily hate religion, but they just don't like associating with other people that impose their beliefs to those who think differently from them

Right. Stop imposing the religion of science theory like Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory on our kids in the public schools.

Teach the kids reading, writing and arithmetic in school. Forget all the other nonsense, except if the kids and their parents want to go that route.

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Yeah, stop teaching science to the masses. The last thing we want is religious nutters tainting scientific studies with non factual data, although we could release all the tainted scientific papers in a separate book and call it "The Bible 2 - How To Hold Back Humanity For Another 5000 Years".
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October 19, 2016, 12:38:48 AM
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Speaking of asshats who deny science and evolution... Mike Pence everybody... Mike Pence... this guy could be 2nd in command of 'Murica

RWW News: Mike Pence Criticizes Theory Of Evolution

He doesn't just buy the Kool-aid, he sells it
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October 19, 2016, 12:47:36 AM
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Speaking of asshats who deny science and evolution... Mike Pence everybody... Mike Pence... this guy could be 2nd in command of 'Murica

RWW News: Mike Pence Criticizes Theory Of Evolution

He doesn't just buy the Kool-aid, he sells it

Ironic, since both Pence & Kaine look like "The Missing Link."
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October 19, 2016, 01:24:24 AM
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No need to generalize. There are in fact the ones that do not make the problem of religion. Living in peace and not try to impose their views on others.

I agree.

Some don't necessarily hate religion, but they just don't like associating with other people that impose their beliefs to those who think differently from them

Right. Stop imposing the religion of science theory like Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory on our kids in the public schools.

Teach the kids reading, writing and arithmetic in school. Forget all the other nonsense, except if the kids and their parents want to go that route.

Cool
Yeah, stop teaching science to the masses. The last thing we want is religious nutters tainting scientific studies with non factual data, although we could release all the tainted scientific papers in a separate book and call it "The Bible 2 - How To Hold Back Humanity For Another 5000 Years".

I don't think we should stop teaching science to people. After all, we uses aspects of it in our lives everyday. In fact, people of all times have used the science of levers to move trees and rocks to build the homes they lived in.

The thing we should do is something like you suggested. Take the things of science that are theories, and state them as such, possibly in a separate section of science. For example, NASA at http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html has many pages that have various science theories listed as fact, when it is not know that these things are fact. Among them are the two that I mentioned above, Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory. Three others that are common are Evolution theory, E=MC2, and Gravity theory.

The mix-up seems to lie in the connection between reality and the theory. For example. Gravity is real. It is a science that exists, that everybody uses everyday, and many people understand in limited form. But the explanation of gravity that we call the Theory of Gravity isn't necessarily correct.

It almost seems that some big organizations are attempting to teach science fiction as real science, simply because aspects of real science are used in making the fictional theory.

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October 19, 2016, 02:29:18 AM
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Right. Stop imposing the religion of science theory like Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory on our kids in the public schools.

Teach the kids reading, writing and arithmetic in school. Forget all the other nonsense, except if the kids and their parents want to go that route.

Cool
Yeah, stop teaching science to the masses. The last thing we want is religious nutters tainting scientific studies with non factual data, although we could release all the tainted scientific papers in a separate book and call it "The Bible 2 - How To Hold Back Humanity For Another 5000 Years".

I don't think we should stop teaching science to people. After all, we uses aspects of it in our lives everyday. In fact, people of all times have used the science of levers to move trees and rocks to build the homes they lived in.

The thing we should do is something like you suggested. Take the things of science that are theories, and state them as such, possibly in a separate section of science. For example, NASA at http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html has many pages that have various science theories listed as fact, when it is not know that these things are fact. Among them are the two that I mentioned above, Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory. Three others that are common are Evolution theory, E=MC2, and Gravity theory.

The mix-up seems to lie in the connection between reality and the theory. For example. Gravity is real. It is a science that exists, that everybody uses everyday, and many people understand in limited form. But the explanation of gravity that we call the Theory of Gravity isn't necessarily correct.

It almost seems that some big organizations are attempting to teach science fiction as real science, simply because aspects of real science are used in making the fictional theory.

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BADdecker, it's posts like this from you that lack your usual bible thumping that make me think that we're dealing with someone who is either not of stable mind, or a different person entirely.

I agree with your sentiment regarding the classification of theories. What you're missing though is the fact that scientific theories are already labelled as such ie. Theory of Evolution, Big Bang Theory etc. You need to take this classification one step further and include religions as theory ie. Theory of Christianity, Theory of Islam etc. Once you do this you can then set about finding evidence to prove each theory and offer this evidence to peers to examine, review and reproduce. If reproducible, then your theory becomes an understanding that it has been proven to be a reality.

For the record, I attended a school where both religion (Catholic) and science were taught side by side.
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Right. Stop imposing the religion of science theory like Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory on our kids in the public schools.

Teach the kids reading, writing and arithmetic in school. Forget all the other nonsense, except if the kids and their parents want to go that route.

Cool
Yeah, stop teaching science to the masses. The last thing we want is religious nutters tainting scientific studies with non factual data, although we could release all the tainted scientific papers in a separate book and call it "The Bible 2 - How To Hold Back Humanity For Another 5000 Years".

I don't think we should stop teaching science to people. After all, we uses aspects of it in our lives everyday. In fact, people of all times have used the science of levers to move trees and rocks to build the homes they lived in.

The thing we should do is something like you suggested. Take the things of science that are theories, and state them as such, possibly in a separate section of science. For example, NASA at http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html has many pages that have various science theories listed as fact, when it is not know that these things are fact. Among them are the two that I mentioned above, Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory. Three others that are common are Evolution theory, E=MC2, and Gravity theory.

The mix-up seems to lie in the connection between reality and the theory. For example. Gravity is real. It is a science that exists, that everybody uses everyday, and many people understand in limited form. But the explanation of gravity that we call the Theory of Gravity isn't necessarily correct.

It almost seems that some big organizations are attempting to teach science fiction as real science, simply because aspects of real science are used in making the fictional theory.

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BADdecker, it's posts like this from you that lack your usual bible thumping that make me think that we're dealing with someone who is either not of stable mind, or a different person entirely.
We could get all abstract and talk about living in a simulation, but that doesn't fit the understanding of common people.

The things that fit the understanding of common people have to do with simple science all over the place.

More complex science proves, and nature shows, that God exists.

The history of the Bible shows that there is miracle-strength as well as miraculous strength in the Bible. The Bible is truth, but even if one can't discern much of the truth in it, more truth can be seen in it than anywhere else except, possibly... actual real "stuff" that we live with right at our fingertips... stuff that we can feel, taste, smell, recognize easily.

God, the Bible and real science are all tied together. Some people who don't like the idea of God (who knows why?) are trying to make reality to be warped in the minds of common people by expressing things that are not necessarily true, as though they were truth.



I agree with your sentiment regarding the classification of theories. What you're missing though is the fact that scientific theories are already labelled as such ie.
I'm not missing that at all. Somebody is though. How do we know? They are claiming that the things of at least some of the theories are factual when they don't know this to be true.

The distinction is this. Theories exist; this is the truth. The major point of every theory is an unknown. Why mix the two? Say it like it is.


Theory of Evolution, Big Bang Theory etc. You need to take this classification one step further and include religions as theory ie. Theory of Christianity, Theory of Islam etc. Once you do this you can then set about finding evidence to prove each theory and offer this evidence to peers to examine, review and reproduce. If reproducible, then your theory becomes an understanding that it has been proven to be a reality.
The distinction here is that when scientists examine Christianity and the the Bible as thoroughly as they examine other things, and make the examination outside of their theories, the Bible and Christianity come way closer to being proven accurate than many of their theories. Of course, where a theory does not have anything to do with something in the Bible or Christianity, this distinction isn't evident.



For the record, I attended a school where both religion (Catholic) and science were taught side by side.

Such a thing (your schooling) might make it even more difficult for you to see the truth. Why? Because often schools that teach science theory along with religion attempt to make the two to be compatible with each other.

For example. The Bible suggests in several places that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. And, there is at least one way that the Bible says that the earth is only a little over 6,000 years old ( http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm ). But the Roman Church used to teach for a while (and may still teach this) that the creation story in the Bible shows billions of years, just to make it compatible with modern science theory.

On the opposite side, when you get into the basic papers that detail the age of the earth, the scientists that say that the earth appears to be billions of years old, say that they don't really know it as fact. But they are saying it this way so that there can be a general, organized order in science.

Then the common person looks at the general order idea that the scientists put together, and thinks that the scientists have found out that the earth is billions of years old. And other scientists, who have not done the studies, gloss over the fact that the papers state that they don't know for sure, and base their science on the wrong idea. And this is only one of the major false science ideas out there.

Then others come along and expand it all into Big Bang. And the media and the universities publish. And ignorant people believe what they publish, and support them with grants, and send their kids to school there. But the whole thing is based on either a theory or else a complete lie.

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You conveniently forget that the people in the nativity were part of one of the foreign states of Rome. So, they were not refugees.

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So, the best way we can help locked-in (won't change) sodomite unbelievers, and all locked-in unbelievers, is to execute them as fast as possible.

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Christianity. The religion of peace.

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