Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

Get rid of atheist nuts. Their atheism pollutes our children. Their stupidity is in school textbooks. Get rid of them.

Here is how to get rid of them. First, pray to God that they will convert to religion. Next, show them how stupid atheism is. Third, offer them the chance to leave the community. Fourth, brand them as the heretics they are.

I don't know why you dislike us atheist nuts so much BADecker, but if you really want to get rid of us it should be rather easy - just pray to your God to take away free-will.  

Something like getting rid of atheists is a lot more complex that anybody thinks about.

First, my prayer was that atheists change. And while I didn't state it directly, they should be gotten rid of by their becoming theists. Why should atheists become theists? Because of love for atheists, so that they have a chance to live.

When God made the universe and people, He put His own God strength into it. To instantly change things would take God turning from a direction in which He had been going full force. This is why the devil and atheists barely nudge God.

God is doing things His way. He is getting rid of the atheists his way. He is working to change atheists into theists. But if they don't change... all people die. So, God is getting rid of the atheists.

You might say that God is getting rid of the theists this way, as well. And it seems like it, doesn't it. But in the resurrection where all people will arise from death, there will be no atheists, because all people will then recognize that it was God Who raised them.

At that time, the free will will be gone. Nobody will have the ability to change his mind at that time. The theists will be locked into their mindset favoring God. The atheists will be locked into their mindset that is against God. God will get rid of His enemies in Hell.

So basically in your belief, atheists get blessed with eternal life as well, they just get to spend it in Hell rather than in Heaven. Sounds like your God and the Devil have a pact if this is your belief, as your God is dictating to the Devil who goes to Hell rather than the Devil getting to decide. Poor Devil, he still has to exist under God's rule instead of getting to prove how much stronger than God he is. So much for setting up his own shop and supposedly luring all us unsuspecting souls.

I also find it interesting that someone who does not believe in you (God) makes them your enemy. So much for the love and forgiveness of your God as spoken of in the New Testament.

Originally, the devil, before he willingly converted himself into a devil, was given much power and beauty, along with a specific job, from God Who created him. Instead of thanking and honoring God, he chose to become a devil.

It is a similar thing with people. Jesus salvation paved the way for people to have eternal life. It is the choice of the people to be in favor of God or against Him.

People who are stubborn in the direction they choose, are locked into it by God. This is called predestination or election by God for the believers. And wile God doesn't have a predestination to Hell for the unbelievers, the more they ask for unbelief by exercising it in themselves, the more God grants it to them... because He is a giving God.

As long as you continue to attempt to twist God into something evil, you are essentially asking for God to strengthen your evil way in yourself. But even if this were not the case, we all know that practice makes perfect(ish). The more you indulge being against God, the greater will be your strength to be against Him.

God might slap you up side of the head in some traumatic way that wakes you up to Him. And for your good, let's hope that He does. But there are many who disregard even this kind of warning from God. How much are you really against Him? How far are you really willing to go? All the way to Hell?

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[dippididodaday]

The nature of the machine universe suggests that God exists as the Maker of the universe. Machines have makers.

Originally, the devil, before he willingly converted himself into a devil, was given much power and beauty, along with a specific job, from God Who created him. Instead of thanking and honoring God, he chose to become a devil.

The devil, before he converted himself was beautiful. So after converting he became ugly I guess? And now he spreads ugliness like he himself has become, right? I'm wondering, when thinking about this devilish being, being ugly and all, if he is not, in the context of your descriptive idea (of the universe as a machine made by God), a spanner in the works? Then according to your description he can't be a spanner in the works. He is an integral gear or something similar. But the gear can change itself, its position, its function? to become something completely different? And now the machine is fu**ed right? Lots of ugly machine parts after that horrific accidental change. And not engineered by the Great Machine Maker right? It was the stupid gear that decided it wanted rather to become a spanner in the works, or not?

[RoomBot]

Get rid of atheist nuts. Their atheism pollutes our children. Their stupidity is in school textbooks. Get rid of them.

Here is how to get rid of them. First, pray to God that they will convert to religion. Next, show them how stupid atheism is. Third, offer them the chance to leave the community. Fourth, brand them as the heretics they are.

I don't know why you dislike us atheist nuts so much BADecker, but if you really want to get rid of us it should be rather easy - just pray to your God to take away free-will.  

Something like getting rid of atheists is a lot more complex that anybody thinks about.

First, my prayer was that atheists change. And while I didn't state it directly, they should be gotten rid of by their becoming theists. Why should atheists become theists? Because of love for atheists, so that they have a chance to live.

When God made the universe and people, He put His own God strength into it. To instantly change things would take God turning from a direction in which He had been going full force. This is why the devil and atheists barely nudge God.

God is doing things His way. He is getting rid of the atheists his way. He is working to change atheists into theists. But if they don't change... all people die. So, God is getting rid of the atheists.

You might say that God is getting rid of the theists this way, as well. And it seems like it, doesn't it. But in the resurrection where all people will arise from death, there will be no atheists, because all people will then recognize that it was God Who raised them.

At that time, the free will will be gone. Nobody will have the ability to change his mind at that time. The theists will be locked into their mindset favoring God. The atheists will be locked into their mindset that is against God. God will get rid of His enemies in Hell.

So basically in your belief, atheists get blessed with eternal life as well, they just get to spend it in Hell rather than in Heaven. Sounds like your God and the Devil have a pact if this is your belief, as your God is dictating to the Devil who goes to Hell rather than the Devil getting to decide. Poor Devil, he still has to exist under God's rule instead of getting to prove how much stronger than God he is. So much for setting up his own shop and supposedly luring all us unsuspecting souls.

I also find it interesting that someone who does not believe in you (God) makes them your enemy. So much for the love and forgiveness of your God as spoken of in the New Testament.

^^^  Exactly!!!   Hahahaha

They cannot practice what they preach.

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God has special mercy on infants.

[RoomBot]

It's clear that OP has constructed his own cobbled-together religion.

Let's call it BADism.

 

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If a person was born in a single 12ft square room and stayed in that room all their life, the only knowledge of the outside world was what was given to them by their capturer, would God send that person to hell for not seeking salvation in Jesus? Even if he/she knew nothing of it? Never even heard of Jesus or the bible?
Any Christian with an ounce of common sense would reply "no". Or they would be forced to admit their God is unjust.

Trouble is, by replying with a "no", the bamboozled Christian has just shot him/herself in the foot.
If Christians really cared about people going to heaven or not, why tell others about salivation in the first place which removes the initial guarantee of heaven? Everything was running smoothly, till they came along and spolt it by opening their gob.

Let's have an analogy:
Person A is asleep.
Person B cuts person A's brakelines on his car whilst he's asleep.
In the morning person A gets in their car unaware of the delibrate brake issue.
Person B rushes over waving their arms, warning person A the brakes look dodgy and he will crash the car. Lucky he came to "save" him.
Person A ignores this fruitcake, drives off and crashes into a tree and dies.
Person B shrugs their shoulders, "should of listen to me when I tried to save you" he tells himself.

Now obviously person B in this scenaro is the Christian "saving" person A, who didn't need "saving" in the first place till they spread their evil. Guess who works for the devil... 

If Christians never went around telling everyone about salivation in the first place, then no-one would goto hell. Pure evil.

[BADecker]

If a person was born in a single 12ft square room and stayed in that room all their life, the only knowledge of the outside world was what was given to them by their capturer, would God send that person to hell for not seeking salvation in Jesus? Even if he/she knew nothing of it? Never even heard of Jesus or the bible?
Any Christian with an ounce of common sense would reply "no". Or they would be forced to admit their God is unjust.

Trouble is, by replying with a "no", the bamboozled Christian has just shot him/herself in the foot.
If Christians really cared about people going to heaven or not, why tell others about salivation in the first place which removes the initial guarantee of heaven? Everything was running smoothly, till they came along and spolt it by opening their gob.

Let's have an analogy:
Person A is asleep.
Person B cuts person A's brakelines on his car whilst he's asleep.
In the morning person A gets in their car unaware of the delibrate brake issue.
Person B rushes over waving their arms, warning person A the brakes look dodgy and he will crash the car. Lucky he came to "save" him.
Person A ignores this fruitcake, drives off and crashes into a tree and dies.
Person B shrugs their shoulders, "should of listen to me when I tried to save you" he tells himself.

Now obviously person B in this scenaro is the Christian "saving" person A, who didn't need "saving" in the first place till they spread their evil. Guess who works for the devil... 

If Christians never went around telling everyone about salivation in the first place, then no-one would goto hell. Pure evil.

The problem with your line of thought is, as the Bible says, in Jesus all things hold together.

When the sperm meets the egg and forms a new fetus, it is Jesus holding that fetus together. Then as the fetus grows, it is Jesus causing it to grow and hold together. When the much-larger fetus attaches to the uterine wall, it is Jesus causing it to attach. As the embryo grows, it is Jesus causing it to grow. When all the bio-electrics in the embryo fill it's new, little brain with the feel for what is going on, it is Jesus causing the bio-electrics and the feel. Jesus acts throughout the formation of the baby, and on into its childhood.

In early childhood, the child is given more and more control over what it thinks and how it reacts. That control was originally entirely Jesus. But it gradually becomes the new person. Then, if the person rejects Jesus in His life, he simply does it. But if he could do it completely, he would die.

The point? Everybody knows about Jesus. The babies know Him much better than the adults do... adults who have pushed so much of Jesus out of their lives that they have to relearn Him from the Bible.

Turn and relearn Him, now, while you have the chance, before you push Him completely out of your life, and die the everlasting death.

[BADecker]

It's clear that OP has constructed his own cobbled-together religion.

Let's call it BADism.

 

I get the felling, a little, that you are calling me OP. What is your definition of OP?

[BADecker]

God has special mercy on infants.

These children don't have the ability to reject Jesus in them. Though they have pain for a while now, in the New Universe god will give them great glory. Their pain, now, lasts only for a very short time. Their glory, then, will last forever.

None of this is because the children are good or righteous. If they were good or righteous, they would lift themselves out of their deplorable condition.

Nor is it because God did it to them. God, in His desire to be gracious has given freedom to all people. Some people have used their freedom to cause children to be harmed. If they don't repent, God will punish them greatly for the evil and harm they have done.

It's about time that you wake up and see the Truth about God. No matter what you think about Him, He is righteous in His thinking about you. If He finds that you are His enemy - even if it is simply by trying to shut Him out of your life - you will be punished as your deeds deserve.

[BADecker]

Get rid of atheist nuts. Their atheism pollutes our children. Their stupidity is in school textbooks. Get rid of them.

Here is how to get rid of them. First, pray to God that they will convert to religion. Next, show them how stupid atheism is. Third, offer them the chance to leave the community. Fourth, brand them as the heretics they are.

I don't know why you dislike us atheist nuts so much BADecker, but if you really want to get rid of us it should be rather easy - just pray to your God to take away free-will.  

Something like getting rid of atheists is a lot more complex that anybody thinks about.

First, my prayer was that atheists change. And while I didn't state it directly, they should be gotten rid of by their becoming theists. Why should atheists become theists? Because of love for atheists, so that they have a chance to live.

When God made the universe and people, He put His own God strength into it. To instantly change things would take God turning from a direction in which He had been going full force. This is why the devil and atheists barely nudge God.

God is doing things His way. He is getting rid of the atheists his way. He is working to change atheists into theists. But if they don't change... all people die. So, God is getting rid of the atheists.

You might say that God is getting rid of the theists this way, as well. And it seems like it, doesn't it. But in the resurrection where all people will arise from death, there will be no atheists, because all people will then recognize that it was God Who raised them.

At that time, the free will will be gone. Nobody will have the ability to change his mind at that time. The theists will be locked into their mindset favoring God. The atheists will be locked into their mindset that is against God. God will get rid of His enemies in Hell.

So basically in your belief, atheists get blessed with eternal life as well, they just get to spend it in Hell rather than in Heaven. Sounds like your God and the Devil have a pact if this is your belief, as your God is dictating to the Devil who goes to Hell rather than the Devil getting to decide. Poor Devil, he still has to exist under God's rule instead of getting to prove how much stronger than God he is. So much for setting up his own shop and supposedly luring all us unsuspecting souls.

I also find it interesting that someone who does not believe in you (God) makes them your enemy. So much for the love and forgiveness of your God as spoken of in the New Testament.

^^^  Exactly!!!   Hahahaha

They cannot practice what they preach.

The fact that you jokers pick on me when I explain the truth to you, shows that you are just like the evil that you speak against me.

God gave you your whole life. He allows food and clothing and enjoyment to come your way. You could do none of this for yourselves if God did not set it into the universe for you. And then all you can do is talk bad against God?

If you did great goodness to someone, and all he did was ridicule you and do bad to you, wouldn't you punish him? Wouldn't you at least take the good things you gave, back? Would you feel good about what he did to you, especially if you went through a tremendous amount of pain to do the good things for him?

You jokers are entirely whacked in your thinking. If you don't change, God WILL take your good things from you. He will even take the best thing from you that you have... your SELF... and you will roast in Hell, forever.

[BADecker]

The nature of the machine universe suggests that God exists as the Maker of the universe. Machines have makers.

Originally, the devil, before he willingly converted himself into a devil, was given much power and beauty, along with a specific job, from God Who created him. Instead of thanking and honoring God, he chose to become a devil.

The devil, before he converted himself was beautiful. So after converting he became ugly I guess? And now he spreads ugliness like he himself has become, right? I'm wondering, when thinking about this devilish being, being ugly and all, if he is not, in the context of your descriptive idea (of the universe as a machine made by God), a spanner in the works? Then according to your description he can't be a spanner in the works. He is an integral gear or something similar. But the gear can change itself, its position, its function? to become something completely different? And now the machine is fu**ed right? Lots of ugly machine parts after that horrific accidental change. And not engineered by the Great Machine Maker right? It was the stupid gear that decided it wanted rather to become a spanner in the works, or not?

While I don't understand what you mean by the wording you use, it is true that the whole universe has become corrupted. In fact, its corruption wasn't just a little corruption off in some insignificant corner. Its corruption is so great that it should have collapsed with a roaring crash, right at the first sin in the Garden.

But, for His own purposes, and for His love of mankind, God has held the universe in place for a time. He has been holding it in place by His strength rather than by the operations of the physics of the universe, which operations have been corrupted by the first sin, and could therefore hold it in place no longer.

God is holding the universe in place for people to be born and live for a time. That time is long enough for them to seek God and be on His side, if they are going to seek Him, that is. God wants people. God wants people to willingly be His people. If they don't want God, they will ultimately lose their life at the end of their eternal stay in Hell.

[RoomBot]

My mistake, @BADecker!

You seem to PWN this thread!

 

[Tyrantt]

My mistake, @BADecker!

You seem to PWN this thread!

 

Nah, he's just saying nonsense and eventually people start taking it as legit. He can be making his answers and stories up at the spot, with such a high bullshit level, it sure does look legit. Thus the "everyone can understand the bible in their own way" crap.

[Moloch]

The bible missed a great plot twist at the end

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The bible missed a great plot twist at the end

Oh i am so happy i could jump in the air.. I am free to be who i want to be..
Oh by the way boys do you like my new pink dress?..Pink makes the boys wink .

[TooQik]

God has special mercy on infants.

If they were good or righteous, they would lift themselves out of their deplorable condition.

The poor little buggers above would barely be able to move and you're saying that they're in this deplorable condition because they aren't good or righteous!!!!!

I think this sentiment from you alone sums up what kind of person you are and if this is a reflection of the teachings of your beliefs then it just reinforces why I reject your religion and choose to be an atheist.

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[Tyrantt]

I see him more as a homeless, drunk and insane person yelling that the jesus is coming and that we'll all burn in hell for our sins, we've had one BADecker like that in my hometown.

[BADecker]

My mistake, @BADecker!

You seem to PWN this thread!

 

Nah, he's just saying nonsense and eventually people start taking it as legit. He can be making his answers and stories up at the spot, with such a high bullshit level, it sure does look legit. Thus the "everyone can understand the bible in their own way" crap.

The devil knows the Bible better than any of us. This is why he focuses our attention on the things that he wants, and away from the things that the Holy Spirit wants.

There is no understanding of the Bible in your own way. There is only the proper understanding of the Bible. For the humble, sincere listener of the Holy Spirit, the correct understanding will be opened up at the correct time.

The point? Get into the Bible and get it into you. If you do this in a big way, you will see that the standard understanding of people who profess to be great Bible scholars out there, lacks much explanation of many things written in the Bible. Get the Bible into you so you understand what these often unexpressed things are.

[BADecker]

God has special mercy on infants.

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If they were good or righteous, they would lift themselves out of their deplorable condition.

The poor little buggers above would barely be able to move and you're saying that they're in this deplorable condition because they aren't good or righteous!!!!!

I think this sentiment from you alone sums up what kind of person you are and if this is a reflection of the teachings of your beliefs then it just reinforces why I reject your religion and choose to be an atheist.

You miss the point, mostly because you want to. You clip out the parts of my post that you want to ignore, simply so you can distract and detract from the truth.

One of the points is that the hundred years or less (usually) that we spend here, is such a tiny thing in the span of eternity that it doesn't, really have any insignificance at all. In addition, once this life is over and the next life is entered, everything here will be entirely forgotten... as though it had never happened.

I certainly don't like the idea of pain any more than anyone else. But should it come on me, I trust that God will hold me for my short 100 years (more or less), so that I come into His kingdom for eternity.

Another point is that the children in the pictures in the links, are young enough that they may not have had the time or ability to cast the Jesus Who made them out of their spirits. Jesus has the ability to hold them, and to give them eternal life in the Kingdom of God. They are not righteous or perfect any more than any of the rest of us. But they are forgiven by God, for Jesus's sake, just like all the rest of us. The difference between them and you is that they have not had the chance or understanding that it takes to become enemies of God like you are. So, they will be saved, but if you don't change, you won't be.