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tricass
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October 14, 2015, 03:54:01 AM |
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Checking out the block explorer and am curious about the below:
"Seen time of newest mature block Oct 10, 2015 at 8:52am (UTC)"
This obviously can't be the last found block as it's almost 4 days ago. If its the amount of time before you can spend you coinbase transaction then isn't that rather a very long time?
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bitspill
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October 14, 2015, 05:55:00 AM |
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Checking out the block explorer and am curious about the below:
"Seen time of newest mature block Oct 10, 2015 at 8:52am (UTC)"
This obviously can't be the last found block as it's almost 4 days ago. If its the amount of time before you can spend you coinbase transaction then isn't that rather a very long time?
That date is the last mature block, or as you said the time before you can spend your coinbase. Block times have been pretty slow lately so it may be artificially long.
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Taek (OP)
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October 14, 2015, 06:11:29 AM |
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Checking out the block explorer and am curious about the below:
"Seen time of newest mature block Oct 10, 2015 at 8:52am (UTC)"
This obviously can't be the last found block as it's almost 4 days ago. If its the amount of time before you can spend you coinbase transaction then isn't that rather a very long time?
That date is the last mature block, or as you said the time before you can spend your coinbase. Block times have been pretty slow lately so it may be artificially long. Correct, it's the most recent coinbase that can be spent. It's supposed to be 24 hours, but thanks to heavy mining instability (we've got a pool that hops on and off as the difficulty adjusts), our median block time is closer to 40 minutes.
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ol92
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October 14, 2015, 08:45:48 AM |
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Checking out the block explorer and am curious about the below:
"Seen time of newest mature block Oct 10, 2015 at 8:52am (UTC)"
This obviously can't be the last found block as it's almost 4 days ago. If its the amount of time before you can spend you coinbase transaction then isn't that rather a very long time?
That date is the last mature block, or as you said the time before you can spend your coinbase. Block times have been pretty slow lately so it may be artificially long. Correct, it's the most recent coinbase that can be spent. It's supposed to be 24 hours, but thanks to heavy mining instability (we've got a pool that hops on and off as the difficulty adjusts), our median block time is closer to 40 minutes. The heavy mining instability is the consequence of the difficulty adjustement : the block time is directly linked to difficulty (the higher the slower) and hashrate (the lower, the slower). The mining profit is directly linked to the difficulty (and price!). I noted the following pattern since about 10 days : step 1 :diff = 100X : at this time : very high --> slow block production because diff is high and hashrate is low since it is not profitable or not the most profitable coin : about 1 block per hour or worse step 2 : 500 block later (a week or more) : diff is adjusted : 50X (half the previous one) --> about normal block production : hashrate increase since it is profitable, block time seems about normal, some farms and miners are back step 3: 500 block later (two days) : diff is again adjusted (why?) : about 16X or 25X (half or less thant the previous one): fast block production with huge hashrate since it is the most profitable coin, private farms jumps with full power. step 1 again : 500 block later (less than one day) : back to 100x step 1 As you may see we are locked in this circle. To my opinion, difficulty adjustement needs some tweaking for smoother block production : even a public pool may not be enough to fix this (but it will help).
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TrippyPippy
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October 14, 2015, 09:05:27 AM |
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Checking out the block explorer and am curious about the below:
"Seen time of newest mature block Oct 10, 2015 at 8:52am (UTC)"
This obviously can't be the last found block as it's almost 4 days ago. If its the amount of time before you can spend you coinbase transaction then isn't that rather a very long time?
That date is the last mature block, or as you said the time before you can spend your coinbase. Block times have been pretty slow lately so it may be artificially long. Correct, it's the most recent coinbase that can be spent. It's supposed to be 24 hours, but thanks to heavy mining instability (we've got a pool that hops on and off as the difficulty adjusts), our median block time is closer to 40 minutes. Is there a pool for SIA ?
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Merick
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October 14, 2015, 02:14:18 PM |
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Hello Sia community.
I recently started watching this technology and successfully setup my first host partition.
I'd like to say that I found gui wallet 0.4.3 simple to use and it looks great.
I hope someday P2Pool mining will be directly integrated into the wallet, let me enter in the P2Pool node address and push start.
Keep up the good work.
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Taek (OP)
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October 14, 2015, 04:08:32 PM |
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I noted the following pattern since about 10 days :
step 1 :diff = 100X : at this time : very high --> slow block production because diff is high and hashrate is low since it is not profitable or not the most profitable coin : about 1 block per hour or worse step 2 : 500 block later (a week or more) : diff is adjusted : 50X (half the previous one) --> about normal block production : hashrate increase since it is profitable, block time seems about normal, some farms and miners are back step 3: 500 block later (two days) : diff is again adjusted (why?) : about 16X or 25X (half or less thant the previous one): fast block production with huge hashrate since it is the most profitable coin, private farms jumps with full power. step 1 again : 500 block later (less than one day) : back to 100x step 1
As you may see we are locked in this circle. To my opinion, difficulty adjustement needs some tweaking for smoother block production : even a public pool may not be enough to fix this (but it will help).
It's a last resort, but if we continue to have huge problems with the mining difficulty, we'll switch up the algorithm. I have a new algorithm in mind that should be more stable in this coin-hopping-happy mining environment. Is there a pool for SIA ?
Not yet I hope someday P2Pool mining will be directly integrated into the wallet, let me enter in the P2Pool node address and push start.
There are alternatives to p2pool (such as payment-channel based mining pools) which provide as much control to miners as p2pool but have much less network overhead and are easier to implement. We'll be adding those types of pools at some point soon, I'm guessing p2pool will not be implemented on Sia because payment-channel pools are generally superior. ---- I have an updated miner for linuxThis new miner should work, and should have a lower stale rate than the 0.3.3.3 miner. Right now I only have a version for linux. You'll need run the 'siad' that's in the download as well as use the miner that's in the download. I need help testing it to verify that the stale rate has actually improved, I don't have enough hashpower on my own to verify that. http://pixeldra.in/u/07JeiNIf all seems to be working well, we'll do our best to get mac + windows binaries released before block 21,000.
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MinermanNC
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October 14, 2015, 09:09:22 PM |
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coin-hopping-happy mining environment.
lol, that's about the size of it Yes will be waiting to try the windows miner Thx Taek!
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tricass
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October 14, 2015, 11:40:40 PM |
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Any chance of updating the explorer to show the current difficulty. Looks like you can see it when viewing the block details. And from what I can see difficulty is very high at 440T (and is that for the next 350 blocks?). I do think the difficulty adjustment algo needs to be enhanced to more quickly retarget. I'm eager for a pool to be released by @ocminer as I would like to start mining this coin.
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MinermanNC
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October 15, 2015, 01:44:14 AM |
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Any chance of updating the explorer to show the current difficulty. Looks like you can see it when viewing the block details. And from what I can see difficulty is very high at 440T (and is that for the next 350 blocks?). I do think the difficulty adjustment algo needs to be enhanced to more quickly retarget. I'm eager for a pool to be released by @ocminer as I would like to start mining this coin.
Yes patiently waiting for the pool as well. Almost thought it was imminent as in a few pages back lol I know these things take time however. And as is being discussed, perhaps some tweaking on the block lag. But it would be sorta neat to see how or if things would level out and become stable and consistent on its own after a pool. But as ol92 mentioned, a pool may not be enough... see what Taek maybe has up his sleeve?
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Taek (OP)
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October 15, 2015, 03:02:46 PM |
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Yes patiently waiting for the pool as well. Almost thought it was imminent as in a few pages back lol
Me too It's still a high priority. Lot of big things are coming on Friday, not the pool unfortunately. But we're doing a huge marketing push that should bring Sia to a lot of eyeballs. Stay tuned
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MinermanNC
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October 15, 2015, 09:57:49 PM |
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Yes patiently waiting for the pool as well. Almost thought it was imminent as in a few pages back lol
Me too It's still a high priority. Lot of big things are coming on Friday, not the pool unfortunately. But we're doing a huge marketing push that should bring Sia to a lot of eyeballs. Stay tuned Yes, will be watching for it! Lets move Sia up a notch now. Hopefully generate some new users
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btcdee
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October 16, 2015, 02:30:10 PM |
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Hi, I'm having issues with the OS X client (v0.4.3). I unlocked the wallet but can't generate an address. I received the following: 'error 400 Bad Request error after call to /wallet/addresses: open wallet/wallet.json: no such file or directory'. I've seen a similar comment by user X1235 but couldn't find a solution for this. Any idea what went wrong? thanks!
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Taek (OP)
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October 16, 2015, 03:28:15 PM |
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Hi, I'm having issues with the OS X client (v0.4.3). I unlocked the wallet but can't generate an address. I received the following: 'error 400 Bad Request error after call to /wallet/addresses: open wallet/wallet.json: no such file or directory'. I've seen a similar comment by user X1235 but couldn't find a solution for this. Any idea what went wrong? thanks!
When you created the wallet, did you get a string for the password? I think some people were having troubles creating the wallet on 0.4.3. It's working in 0.4.4, which should be ready later today. We did get a new version of the Windows miner which works correctly with 0.4.4 (0.4.3 as well), compiled again by Droghio. (Big thanks to him!): https://github.com/droghio/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases/tag/1.0.3
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btcdee
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October 16, 2015, 04:12:57 PM |
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Hi, I'm having issues with the OS X client (v0.4.3). I unlocked the wallet but can't generate an address. I received the following: 'error 400 Bad Request error after call to /wallet/addresses: open wallet/wallet.json: no such file or directory'. I've seen a similar comment by user X1235 but couldn't find a solution for this. Any idea what went wrong? thanks!
When you created the wallet, did you get a string for the password? I think some people were having troubles creating the wallet on 0.4.3. It's working in 0.4.4, which should be ready later today. We did get a new version of the Windows miner which works correctly with 0.4.4 (0.4.3 as well), compiled again by Droghio. (Big thanks to him!): https://github.com/droghio/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases/tag/1.0.3Do you mean the 12 word recovery passphrase? that's the one I wrote down
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Taek (OP)
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October 16, 2015, 04:24:37 PM |
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Do you mean the 12 word recovery passphrase? that's the one I wrote down
Yeah. It's actually 29 words. I'm not sure what's causing that error, usually if there's no wallet.json file the wallet will just make a new one. What happens if you try starting over? I can help you get any coins that were in the old wallet as long as you keep the recovery phrase. Let me know if you figure out what happened, I'm puzzled.
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btcdee
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October 16, 2015, 04:55:04 PM |
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Do you mean the 12 word recovery passphrase? that's the one I wrote down
Yeah. It's actually 29 words. I'm not sure what's causing that error, usually if there's no wallet.json file the wallet will just make a new one. What happens if you try starting over? I can help you get any coins that were in the old wallet as long as you keep the recovery phrase. Let me know if you figure out what happened, I'm puzzled. Help would be great, thanks! My coins are still at an exchange. I wanted to move them to my wallet and tried to generate a receiving address. All I did after the install was to unlock the wallet. Strangely, I get the same error message when I try to lock the wallet. Pressing numerous times on the unlocked button will eventually bring up the 'enter your password' field box. Except for the passphrase I have no password (unless it's the same?). The wallet will lock regardless and I will successfully unlock it again with my passphrase. I apologize for a clumsy answer, still practicing my English..
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Taek (OP)
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October 16, 2015, 05:13:55 PM |
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Do you mean the 12 word recovery passphrase? that's the one I wrote down
Yeah. It's actually 29 words. I'm not sure what's causing that error, usually if there's no wallet.json file the wallet will just make a new one. What happens if you try starting over? I can help you get any coins that were in the old wallet as long as you keep the recovery phrase. Let me know if you figure out what happened, I'm puzzled. Help would be great, thanks! My coins are still at an exchange. I wanted to move them to my wallet and tried to generate a receiving address. All I did after the install was to unlock the wallet. Strangely, I get the same error message when I try to lock the wallet. Pressing numerous times on the unlocked button will eventually bring up the 'enter your password' field box. Except for the passphrase I have no password (unless it's the same?). The wallet will lock regardless and I will successfully unlock it again with my passphrase. I apologize for a clumsy answer, still practicing my English.. The recovery phrase and the passphrase are the same, unlock the wallet using the 29 words and you'll be able to create addresses.
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btcdee
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October 16, 2015, 06:07:27 PM |
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Do you mean the 12 word recovery passphrase? that's the one I wrote down
Yeah. It's actually 29 words. I'm not sure what's causing that error, usually if there's no wallet.json file the wallet will just make a new one. What happens if you try starting over? I can help you get any coins that were in the old wallet as long as you keep the recovery phrase. Let me know if you figure out what happened, I'm puzzled. Help would be great, thanks! My coins are still at an exchange. I wanted to move them to my wallet and tried to generate a receiving address. All I did after the install was to unlock the wallet. Strangely, I get the same error message when I try to lock the wallet. Pressing numerous times on the unlocked button will eventually bring up the 'enter your password' field box. Except for the passphrase I have no password (unless it's the same?). The wallet will lock regardless and I will successfully unlock it again with my passphrase. I apologize for a clumsy answer, still practicing my English.. The recovery phrase and the passphrase are the same, unlock the wallet using the 29 words and you'll be able to create addresses. Still same issue, please see image capture. Wallet is unlocked, I select 'create address': http://imgur.com/azamjyI
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