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November 03, 2015, 08:45:53 AM |
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Based on economic theory, shouldn't the price of bitcoin be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production?
Given the average cost of electricity around the globe, current difficulty on the network and average computing power of mining equipment ...the price should probably be more like $300.
Personally, I think price should be around $3,000 usd...so holding till then
The price of bitcoin should be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production. It is based on the cheapest electricity cost of the miners. Which is around $0.05/kWh. So the electricity cost is around $150. However, the total cost is around $300 if we include the building, labour etc. |
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Andrelvogue
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November 03, 2015, 11:03:59 AM |
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Yes I think is smart holding it do just buy 1 or 5 if you want to be really save, but If you know for sure in well increase just buy 10 BTC or more.
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ronaldo40
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November 03, 2015, 11:11:32 AM |
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yeah this time I am optimistic to hold my bitcoin for a high prices, the possibility of holding until in early 2016 when prices are above $400   |
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November 03, 2015, 11:18:58 AM |
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Based on economic theory, shouldn't the price of bitcoin be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production?
Given the average cost of electricity around the globe, current difficulty on the network and average computing power of mining equipment ...the price should probably be more like $300.
Personally, I think price should be around $3,000 usd...so holding till then
The price of bitcoin should be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production. It is based on the cheapest electricity cost of the miners. Which is around $0.05/kWh. So the electricity cost is around $150. However, the total cost is around $300 if we include the building, labour etc. Due to difficult adjustments the supply of Bitcoin is relatively inelastic regardless of the cost of production. You need to calculate it backwards - the marginal cost of production will (attempt to) adjust to the current price. However the relationship will lag because miners don't go online and offline instantaneously. |
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wadili89
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November 03, 2015, 01:28:53 PM |
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yeah this time I am optimistic to hold my bitcoin for a high prices, the possibility of holding until in early 2016 when prices are above $400 you dont really need to wait the next year for the 400$ per BTC even not the next month because the price will be 400$ or more at the end of this current week because its already about 393$ if you have not checked already ,to the moon |
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November 03, 2015, 01:44:46 PM |
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Based on economic theory, shouldn't the price of bitcoin be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production?
Given the average cost of electricity around the globe, current difficulty on the network and average computing power of mining equipment ...the price should probably be more like $300.
Personally, I think price should be around $3,000 usd...so holding till then
The price of bitcoin should be somewhat close to the marginal cost of production. It is based on the cheapest electricity cost of the miners. Which is around $0.05/kWh. So the electricity cost is around $150. However, the total cost is around $300 if we include the building, labour etc. Due to difficult adjustments the supply of Bitcoin is relatively inelastic regardless of the cost of production. You need to calculate it backwards - the marginal cost of production will (attempt to) adjust to the current price. However the relationship will lag because miners don't go online and offline instantaneously. Adam Hayes wrote research paper around feb/mar 2015. He extrapolated cost to mine at 255-260 (when difficulty was 47,427,554,951) ...now difficulty is 62,253,982,450. Also calculated that due to effect of halving ( all thing constant) price should jump to around $495. That's with all things constant which they are not...difficulty has already risen around 34% from when paper was written...yes equipment efficiencies have gotten better but not as fast as the rise in difficulty. http://www.economicpolicyresearch.org/econ/2015/NSSR_WP_052015.pdfAlso |
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November 03, 2015, 01:49:59 PM |
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i dont have enough bitcoins to hold in my opinion
Whatever you have if you are holding that is counted too. Personally i am holding and probably not selling in the near future. Because i can earn more if i sell after few months, because fiat has the same value comparing to bitcoin. The best way to go about this is the good old B&H one, namely buy and hold, buy monthly some of it, at whatever price, no matter the price just always buy some, that's how you keep building an stack and overtime you'll realize every single buy was a cheap buy. |
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November 03, 2015, 03:42:06 PM |
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Yes yes yes. But.. there is always that but. It is becoming scary. The more it goes up. The more it is getting risky. I just hope it stays right there on the top.
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cohnhead
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November 03, 2015, 03:51:10 PM |
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i dont have enough bitcoins to hold in my opinion
Whatever you have if you are holding that is counted too. Personally i am holding and probably not selling in the near future. Because i can earn more if i sell after few months, because fiat has the same value comparing to bitcoin. The best way to go about this is the good old B&H one, namely buy and hold, buy monthly some of it, at whatever price, no matter the price just always buy some, that's how you keep building an stack and overtime you'll realize every single buy was a cheap buy. probably one of the best investment strategies out there, buying at regular intervals. Typically in the long run you get to take advantage both ups and downs and get to price average. A lot of people do it weekly. Just seems that if you started a month or two ago you have not been able to average down :-( |
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November 03, 2015, 03:54:43 PM |
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I'm hoarding bitcoin and probably won't see myself selling for some years and if I do sell it will be a small bit. I don't have a ton of Bitcoin, but it's rising steadily. I also tend to not care about what 1BTC = However many USDs, I'm just behind the awesome concept.
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afriezalie
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November 03, 2015, 03:59:53 PM |
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I don't hold my bitcoin for price increasing, but for saving. I just save my bitcoin to buy something in future. Price increasing is just like a bonus for me while I save my bitcoin.
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leex1528
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November 03, 2015, 06:27:41 PM |
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I am always holding coins. Even if the price sky rockets to 1million a coin(I don't think that is going to happen) I would still be holding some coins. I would probably sell some and pay some bills and stuff but I think I will always be holding.
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prodigy8
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November 03, 2015, 07:02:31 PM |
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i dont have enough bitcoins to hold in my opinion
Whatever you have if you are holding that is counted too. Personally i am holding and probably not selling in the near future. Because i can earn more if i sell after few months, because fiat has the same value comparing to bitcoin. The best way to go about this is the good old B&H one, namely buy and hold, buy monthly some of it, at whatever price, no matter the price just always buy some, that's how you keep building an stack and overtime you'll realize every single buy was a cheap buy. Buying is every time the easiest part of the deal. I think that selling is the most problematic part because of the price. Most of us understood that holding is good especially today when the price hits the max. |
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November 03, 2015, 07:17:47 PM |
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I mine bitcoins, buy bitcoins. I hod most and use some when necessary.
When I use bitcoin, it will promote its adoption, therefore increases it value.
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November 03, 2015, 07:32:32 PM |
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Im fairly new to bitcoin, & my plan is to do both, no different from how i (and probably most others) operate anyways, the way i see it, i want to hold on to as much BTC as possible but when i say hold on to, i mean no different from how i "hold" on to my money or savings now, ill save the vast majority of it (once i have a majority lol), but spend a few satoshi here and there when & if needed but ill never spend spend spend till i have none left, ideally i want to get to a possition where i have at least 1Bitcoin in any given time.
Current goal: 10
Current bitcoins: 0.005xxxxxx
Opened up a wallet a few days ago =) After weeks of watching videos and reading up on the coin, I can see its potential so yeah i would like to hold on to a few.
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November 03, 2015, 07:45:32 PM |
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Well lets see, yes I have bitcoins, well not a whole bitcoin yet but am getting there slowly. I dont think I am going to just sit on my bitcoins when I start to have enough to actually add up to some real money, but I guess we will see what happens when I get more in my account. I would very much like to see the price increase again since I somewhat am just getting into bitcoins and really dont have much of anything just yet. IF the valu e of them would go up it would obvisouly mean that the little I have is worth more which would be great in my book. Hahahahaha. Anyone know when this increase is going to happen if ever again?
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croato
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November 03, 2015, 07:50:30 PM |
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Unfortunately i have sold most of my coins at 300ish and now i am sorry for that. Bought at 220ish so i have achieved some profit from that, and also still have few coins for early retirement when price skyrocket lol. I could do better but it is all cool.
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cohnhead
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November 03, 2015, 07:57:00 PM |
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Im fairly new to bitcoin, & my plan is to do both, no different from how i (and probably most others) operate anyways, the way i see it, i want to hold on to as much BTC as possible but when i say hold on to, i mean no different from how i "hold" on to my money or savings now, ill save the vast majority of it (once i have a majority lol), but spend a few satoshi here and there when & if needed but ill never spend spend spend till i have none left, ideally i want to get to a possition where i have at least 1Bitcoin in any given time.
Current goal: 10
Current bitcoins: 0.005xxxxxx
Opened up a wallet a few days ago =) After weeks of watching videos and reading up on the coin, I can see its potential so yeah i would like to hold on to a few.
welcome MbitSport and goodluck . I like your plan. There are a lot of bad players in this space all clamoring to get possession of your btc, so tread carefully. One practice you should abide...never give blind trust to anyone on this forum who has not earned it...and even then again tread carefully |
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Nathonas
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November 03, 2015, 11:07:08 PM |
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I'm holding my bitcoins until they have a ridiculously high value - that is, until they have mainstream adoption and are used by everyday people consistently. I learned from losing money by trying to day trade and gamble. Believe in the technology people, not the bubbles.
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All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
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November 04, 2015, 08:04:32 AM |
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Price has increased a lot last days, it almost doubled up; maybe OP should change thread title to "up to what value you will still hold your btc?" Well, with other seven or eight double ups from actual value I may consider selling a chunk of them  |
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