Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[kawetsriyanto]

No, Leverkusen don't look weak this season, it's just that Munich aren't as weak as last season. Munich have some quality players and that's why it's hard for Leverkusen to compete like last season.

We can't deny that Leverkusen is weaker in this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich becomes stronger under Kompany's management. Regarding the squad quality, I don't see significant change. It is only about the decline of Leverkusen performance. Other teams in Bundesliga may be improved their performance, they also may know better Xabi's tactic. So they can deal with Leverkusen game this season.

When it comes to the upcoming season, I'm honestly a little skeptical about Ten Hag. I don't doubt the coach but I'm worried that Leverkusen will lose their best form.

Ten Hag is actually one of top coaches, he also won some trophies already. There is nothing wrong with his quality as a coach. I think we don't need to underestimate him. Let's see first how he can manage Leverkusen in the few early matches next season. Now, it is not the right time to judge him!

Certainly the departure of some crucial players in the team would have a negative effect on the team but if Ten Hag and his team are able to sign the right players they could even further strengthen and improve their squad to be good enough to battle for the league title next season.

So far, only Jonathan Tah is leaving the team. It is because he doesn't get a contract extension. However, there is no big problem because Leverkusen has enough players in the defense line. As far as Florian Wirtz stays in Leverkusen, I think Ten Hag still can expect for the competitive team. But the problem is Florian Wirtz seems to leave. Ten Hag must be ready to sign a new player who can be the right replacement for him.

[Hanadawa]

No, Leverkusen don't look weak this season, it's just that Munich aren't as weak as last season. Munich have some quality players and that's why it's hard for Leverkusen to compete like last season.

We can't deny that Leverkusen is weaker in this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich becomes stronger under Kompany's management. Regarding the squad quality, I don't see significant change. It is only about the decline of Leverkusen performance. Other teams in Bundesliga may be improved their performance, they also may know better Xabi's tactic. So they can deal with Leverkusen game this season.

Leverkusen is like a one-season wonder team. Their performance last season was truly invisible. If only they had won the UEL then they would have become the first team in history to achieve an invisible treble where they became champions without being defeated in all competitions. After that magical season ended people have started to analyze Alonso's tactics well and that makes Leverkusen this season look weaker than the previous season. Plus some of their star players have moved to other clubs. Basically Leverkusen is not a team with qualified individual quality but Alonso managed to make them a solid team. Leverkusen's weakness is that they will be weak when under pressure from one man marking like Atalanta did last season.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

[Just Say]

I disagree with you, Bayer Leverkusen was weak this season because Bayern Munich was no the only team they faced this season that made them end up not getting any trophy. Bayern Munich got better and wasn't in poor form like last season and Leverkusen became weak as they couldn't win matches that was expected of them to win.

Xabi Alonso is out of the team with Ten Hag brought in as his replacement untill the team is in better shape I can not rate Ten Hag well because he failed as a Manchester United coach.

Differentially it has been observed that Bayer Leverkusen has been much weaker this season compared to last season because they were champions the previous season. Their statistics clearly show that they have won 9 fewer matches this season than last. Maybe they are going to make big changes in this regard now but I would say that their biggest weakness at this stage would be the departure of Xabi Alonso because the management of this team couldn't do anything important to keep him.

It is also a matter of concern now that their midfielder Jonathan Tah has left the team, so what might be Bayer Leverkusen's attitude after this? I think Bayer Leverkusen has to make some expected contracts such as adding Garnacho and Antonio, maybe it will be very helpful for them.

[imamusma]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

Ten Hag deserves a chance, but we realize that Leverkusen fans cannot expect too much. In the Bundesliga, it is not easy to win trophies when you have to compete with Bayern Munich, let alone in the Champions League where everyone knows there are many better teams there. The chance to win trophies is certainly open to anyone, and who knows, Ten Hag might be as lucky as Xabi Alonso.
Despite many doubts, at least the appointment of Ten Hag as the new manager can maintain Leverkusen performance to continue competing at the top of the standings. However, before the season starts, Ten Hag must rebuild the depth of the squad, which of course will affect their journey next season.

[SatoPrincess]

Something I didn't expect actually happened to Leverkusen. Indeed, we don't know how good Leverkusen will be for next season after Xabi left the team. But I really don't expect Ten Hag to replace him.
Some players left, maybe Ten Hag will also bring some players he likes to Leverkusen. Like he did at United.
Is it possible that Leverkusen will continue the competition with Munich next season?

At first, Cesc Fàbregas' name was rumoured with Leverkusen. But later on he stated no intention to leave Como soon. It was interesting to hear though because I thought he would like to take the opportunity. 

Erik ten Hag is one of the worst options I could have imagined honestly. At least after watching him manage Manchester United.

When it comes to competing hard against Bayern Munich, I'm not expectant. Xabi Alonso is much better than him in many ways.

Yeah I also heard about Fabregas being lined up as a replacement for Xabi Alonso initially but it seem Erik Ten Hag surpassed him in the rankings. However in terms of comparison Erik Ten Hag is a better coach than Fabregas better in experience and achievements too. ErikTen Hag is a good coach I will say this over and over that he is. The only aspect where I felt he lacked was his choices of players he signed and the ones he sold because they were also part of the reason he failed at Manchester United and stained his reputation, maybe Leverkesun could be his chance at redemption.

[Stablexcoin]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

Try to go deep on whose fault it was, why Ten Hag did not succeed at Manchester United. I won't be among those who don't think Manchester United have a problem with players than they do with coaches, how many changes and signings of new managers are they going to do while blaming coaches for all the failures. Amorim has been handed the club what did he do in his first season, the players are the initial problem of Manchester United, if they want some upgrade, then it should begin with committing to better signings.

[len01]

The only aspect where I felt he lacked was his choices of players he signed and the ones he sold because they were also part of the reason he failed at Manchester United and stained his reputation, maybe Leverkesun could be his chance at redemption.

Well, this is what I was worried about when Ten Hag became Leverkusen coach, he brought in players or sold players inappropriately. Meanwhile, Leverkusen do not have large enough finances to recruit the players Ten Hag wants. This concern does not mean judging Ten Hag badly, but rather like the fear of it repeating itself at Leverkusen. While Leverkusen is currently getting its bright period after a long time struggling to compete with the top teams. But we'll see, hopefully Ten Hag will be more careful.

[mv1986]

Leverkusen has some big problems to solve. Tah is gone, Wirtz, Frimpong, the coach Alonso of course, I don't know who else will leave, but this is serious change going on.

In addition to the players and coach Xabi Alonso, now their mainstay striker Patrik Schick is also rumored to be moving to an English club, because currently Arsenal, Chelsea and several other English clubs are interested in bringing him in. He is a young player who is hungry for goals, he has performed very consistently, so the hope will be better if Leverkusen chooses to keep him.

You name it and this is not the end of the story yet. We are still in May. This is going to be a monster task to put together a team that is nearly as strong as what Xabi Alonso has put together. But I think this is the biggest fear that Leverkusen now has for a good reason. One player after another leaving the club and they have to find these super talents again. Not one of them, but probably five of them.

[GiftedMAN]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

Try to go deep on whose fault it was, why Ten Hag did not succeed at Manchester United. I won't be among those who don't think Manchester United have a problem with players than they do with coaches, how many changes and signings of new managers are they going to do while blaming coaches for all the failures. Amorim has been handed the club what did he do in his first season, the players are the initial problem of Manchester United, if they want some upgrade, then it should begin with committing to better signings.

Man there's nothing to go deep to find out about who's fault it is that made Ten Hag couldn't end well at United, he was made the manager of the team to make things work well but instead he decided to start having issues with his players how do you expect him to succeed in that case? If the players are not doing well is it not the responsibility of the coach to work on the performance of the player to ensure he gets better what did he do to bring back the performance of the team in that case ? nothing and you expect people not to blame him for almost taking Manchester United to relegation.
Manchester United needs to change most of the players that's fine but the managers should learn how to work with players they also have feelings and families.

[dezoel]

Even though Cesc Fabregas is not coaching Como, which is owned by a rich man, it is not even right for Cesc Fabregas to be in a hurry to leave Como and join Bayer Leverkusen because he just started his coaching career, and Cesc Fabregas needs to stay at Como and gain more experience about coaching so that he can be able to perform well in any club he will coach next.

As much as I agree with you, you know at some point someone has to kickstart his or her career from somewhere and Bayern Leverkusen might be just one of those clubs that he can use to spice up his coaching curriculum vitae. Bayern Leverkusen is an upgrade to Como and this might further project his career to possible bigger clubs around Europe. I read a rumour that Ten Hang has been contacted by Bayern Leverkusen and I don't how true that is but sooner or later we will know who's where and whose not.

Erik ten Hag is already in contract with Bayer Leverkusen for two years with now few big names are already on sell list as well which is making things interesting for this club future which won their first title in decades and then ended on second spot as well. Cesc Fàbregas done good job at Como in his first season with this now most chances he is having no intention to leave this immediately because from here his career can turn big breakthrough for him while there was no any report Bayer Leverkusen have any intention to bring him here.

Now in this season things could be interesting because can Bayer Leverkusen keep themselves for staying into top ranks or both giants of Bundesliga will rule again because now Borussia Dortmund is also looking good after having Champions League and Bayern Munich could be more lethal after winning title.

[Republikcoin.com]

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

I am not sure about Ten Hag's coaching even though he was successful when he was still coaching the Ajax team, but for the Bundesliga I am still not sure about him in making Leverkusen better because in the Bundesliga there are also many strong teams that must be defeated so that each team needs to have a fairly high level of consistency in order to be champions. And this has been shown again by Bayern Munich this season so that Munich has become champions again in the Bundesliga after being thwarted by Leverkusen last season.

[eightdots]

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

I am not sure about Ten Hag's coaching even though he was successful when he was still coaching the Ajax team, but for the Bundesliga I am still not sure about him in making Leverkusen better because in the Bundesliga there are also many strong teams that must be defeated so that each team needs to have a fairly high level of consistency in order to be champions. And this has been shown again by Bayern Munich this season so that Munich has become champions again in the Bundesliga after being thwarted by Leverkusen last season.

Ten Hag did not come to the Premier League with an ordinary team. He had Manchester United and was not successful. Manchester United competes with stronger teams than Leverkusen, but there is also a difference between Leverkusen and Manchester United. I think it is very important for managers to adapt to the team and there are some important details for a team to achieve this harmony. For example, the team needs to have players that are compatible with the manager's understanding of the game, otherwise teams that cannot reflect the coach's wishes on the field cannot be successful. Another reason is that if the coaches' wishes are not met and the team does not consist of players who will do what the coach wants, the coaches should not insist on their wishes and should implement the strategy that suits the team.

Alonso achieved great success and I do not think it is easy to repeat it. Overtaking Munich in the German league is not something that will happen every season.

[Agbamoni]

It is also a matter of concern now that their midfielder Jonathan Tah has left the team, so what might be Bayer Leverkusen's attitude after this? I think Bayer Leverkusen has to make some expected contracts such as adding Garnacho and Antonio, maybe it will be very helpful for them.

If a midfielder is leaving, don't they need a midfielder for replacement. Garnacho and Antony are not midfielders even if they will be a big plus to the team but a better midfielder should be kept in mind. Bayern Leverkusen had interest on Florian Wirtz but it is clear now, he will be going to Liverpool.

The idea of ETH brining the same players he used in Ajax and Manchester United is not really make sense to me. They are not the only players who can play his style, he should get other players.

[Velvet78]

If Erik ten Hag happens to need quite much time to make his system work at Leverkusen, I won't be expectant about a title race next season either.

I wouldn't like to watch a boring Bayern Munich dominance again. Or maybe Kovac's Dortmund would step forward to have a good competition for the title next season? Who knows...

It is also a matter of concern now that their midfielder Jonathan Tah has left the team, so what might be Bayer Leverkusen's attitude after this? I think Bayer Leverkusen has to make some expected contracts such as adding Garnacho and Antonio, maybe it will be very helpful for them.

Midfielder? Jonathan Tah?    I assume you wanted to say defender or CB. Therefore Leverkusen needs to sign a defense player to fill his place. Not a winger like Garnacho or a midfielder...

[Akbarkoe]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

Under the tutelage of Xabi Alonso, he was not only able to improve the performance of his players, but also the transfer value of the players he trained, so that Bayer Leverkusen made a fairly large profit from the sale of a number of players at the end of this season. And this is in contrast to what ETH experienced at Manchester United, he spent a lot of money to buy players, but now the players he recruited in just a few seasons have immediately plummeted in value which has even destroyed Manchester United's financial condition until now.

And because Leverkusen is currently releasing more of its players, of course they will also recruit new players to fill the vacancies in the team. At this time ETH is concocting a formula to rebuild the Bayer Leverkusen squad, hopefully the players he recruited are right and do have the potential to develop.

[KTChampions]

Try to go deep on whose fault it was, why Ten Hag did not succeed at Manchester United. I won't be among those who don't think Manchester United have a problem with players than they do with coaches, how many changes and signings of new managers are they going to do while blaming coaches for all the failures. Amorim has been handed the club what did he do in his first season, the players are the initial problem of Manchester United, if they want some upgrade, then it should begin with committing to better signings.

I don't understand your logic at all. Let's check the timing: Ten Hag comes to United and with the players he didn't choose and who he doesn't want (whom he then kicked out) he makes serious progress. Then he makes 400+ million signings and the club (with the players he wanted) sinks. If we're to blame someone for United having bad players, it's him, isn't it? Of course, the problem is complex (he was not the only one who approved the signings), but a significant part of his guilt is undeniable.

[ITExpert]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

The Leverkusen team hired a new coach who was previously the ex-coach of Manchester United, so many viewers said that Erik ten Hag did not have such a good experience with Man United. He has been a good part of the team's failiure somewhere, so he cannot be good for the Leverkusen team in any way. Because we cannot hold any one person responsible for the failure or success of any team because there can be different reasons. But if we look at this coach, Erik ten hag, I think that at that time there were no players with him who did not cooperate with the routine or caused his bad performance. But we cannot ignore the difference between the English league and the other leagues. So it is possible that Erik ten Hag experience here will be very wonderful.

[Agbe]

Yes, the Dutch manager may deserve a chance. Bayer Leverkusen has signed him at the moment and must be confident in his abilities. He had a few good seasons with Ajax and went to Manchester United as a coach in form. He fell short of expectations at Manchester United and had some real problems. He also had similar problems with the players. This was his biggest criticism. Leverkusen is a team that is still dreaming of winning the championship. I hope Ten Hag will be a coach who can contribute to that.

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

The Leverkusen team hired a new coach who was previously the ex-coach of Manchester United, so many viewers said that Erik ten Hag did not have such a good experience with Man United. He has been a good part of the team's failiure somewhere, so he cannot be good for the Leverkusen team in any way. Because we cannot hold any one person responsible for the failure or success of any team because there can be different reasons. But if we look at this coach, Erik ten hag, I think that at that time there were no players with him who did not cooperate with the routine or caused his bad performance. But we cannot ignore the difference between the English league and the other leagues. So it is possible that Erik ten Hag experience here will be very wonderful.

Ten Hag is a good coach and we can see that at his time in Ajax so I think that he is going to do well if given the time at Leverkusen because the structure in Leverkusen and that of United are different because the fact is united has no structure before the coming of ten hang to the team no coach that will go to united that will do well because united has no structure but Xabi Alonso has built a good structure before leaving Leverkusen

[dezoel]

The decision taken by Leverkusen was right because Xabi Alonso's departure to Real Madrid needed a coach who could understand Leverkusen's overall style and although Ten Haq had not succeeded in handling Manchester United, he had a good record when he was a coach Ajax. The English League is slightly different from other leagues and that is why Ten Haq failed and did not fulfill expectations when he was a Manchester United coach because the competition there was quite competitive and a number of players he had were also not in good performance.

We need to realize this could be something that would make a lot sense if he does well. So, we could consider that this could be something that will move forward with it. Think about this, if we end up with ETH doing very well then he could stay here and even go back to being a manager for a bigger club again, if he does bad here too that means he is going to stay being bad manager and will just go down more and more.

This is why he has to show himself and he has to do better, there is no other option for him, he is going to do as best as he could. At United, he wasn't doing good, but before him, Ole didn't do good neither, and after him, Amorim didn't do good neither. So when you think of all of this, he could do better.