Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Doell]

Indeed, Leipzig is more promising than Frankfurt in terms of performance and this can be a pretty good reference for those who want to place bets on the DFB Cup final. Maybe Frankfurt was lucky enough to beat Freiburg in the last weekend of the bundesliga yesterday, but that still hasn't proven its capacity to beat Leipzig.
Especially if we look at the odds offered by the bookie, it's quite clear that Leipzig is favored to win with odds @1.73 and for Frankfurt to get odds @4.30, it's clear that the difference is very big, so I don't think there's anything wrong with betting on a team that will clearly win the DFB Cups this season.

The odds are still interesting because this is not a home game for Leipzig, but it takes place on neutral grounds. Frankfurt has an amazing supporter crowd and I am sure that these fans do everything they can to get into the stadium and support Frankfurt. I believe that Frankfurt will have more support in the Berlin Olympic stadium than Leipzig. That can definitely help a lot when the game is close and not decided after half an hour because Leipzig scores early goals.

Because this is the Final, both of teams still have the possibility to win, also based on the head to head these both teams are quite equal. But Leipzig this season is so great, they are not easy to beat. Also, after being able to beat Bayern Munich at the Allianz Arena some time ago, Leipzig might also be more motivated to win. Even so, somehow I also believe in Frankfurt, let's hope they can win in that game.

[Leviathan.007]

It looks like this season is the season of Dortmund's biggest regrets. How not to regret, because Dortmund has a very big chance to win the Bundesliga title this season because on paper Dortmund is also better than Mainz. Plus, Dortmund is also playing at home which, of course, is the best factor for Dortmund to be able to beat Mainz and celebrate their home win and win the title this season. But what happened was that Dortmund failed, and it also looks like Dortmund didn't have the luck factor in that game, it's really very unfortunate.

Some of the main problems that Dortmund face is the mentality of players and coaches. The reason is, in the final match against Mainz the coach was unable to motivate his players to really get up. What I mean more precisely at the end of the match the motivation from the coach is very important, but instead the Dortmund coach gets carried away and is under pressure so that no one can calm down. Playing in front of thousands of fans who were eagerly awaiting victory finally a dramatic situation occurred.

The way Dortmund played that day, in contrast, was really unfortunate in my opinion; their coach, in my opinion, was pressing them rather than encouraging them to calm down and play a good game without realizing that thousands of fans are waiting to see what they will do and defeat Mainz, I also believe that the coach and players were overconfident in their ability to easily defeat Mainz because they had been defeating other teams.
I was shocked when Mainz defeated Dortmund. Given that Dortmund had every potential to win the trophy this season, it greatly disappointed me to see them lose to Bayern Munich after such a long wait.
 

To be honest I was not shocked when I saw Dortmund lose this chance for winning the league because during this season they lost many other games and that's why Bayern Munich lost the title for this season otherwise, in this season Bayern Munich performed badly enough to give Dortmund good chance they could never have in the last seasons they had.
Dortmund could win the game against Mainz and win the Bundesliga they couldn't win from 2012 until this season.

Also, the thing about Dortmund is they get usually more spectators than any team. For example this season they got an average of 81,228 spectators.
https://www.weltfussball.de/zuschauer/bundesliga-2022-2023/1/

[Texac]

Regardless of the position they occupy at the end of the Bundesliga standings, it doesn't seem like it will have much effect on the game. But let's just see what will happen later.

It hasnt to say anything what position they are in the League , and i still think that Frankfurt can beat Leipzig.

The conditions are still possible because we also won't know what will happen in the 90 minutes of the match, especially in terms of the condition of the players, they can actually still be said to be balanced in this regard.
But on the other hand, with the current conditions, especially looking at the odds, it is certain that Leipzig is the favorite in the match which will be held at the Berlin Olympic Stadium because with the mental condition and performance in this season's competition, Leipzig still has a better score, especially for the DFB as well as Leipzig. destroying his opponent by a margin of more than 2 goals which could have been a consideration.

Leipzig has shown a good performance in the league. I think they would actually be able to carry that form onto the match against Frankfurt. Recently Frankfurt has been a little inconsistent. Now of course the match is going to depend on how the players perform on the match day. But if I had to predict I will say that Leipzig seems to be the better team going into this DFB-Pokal final.

[el kaka22]

Having an understanding of how Dortmund needs to be a lot more "calm" when it comes down to the last games would be the key thing to work on and it is not going to be easy. Bayern didn't tremble, they won the last game just like they suppose to and Mainz wasn't really a team that Dortmund should be having trouble against neither, losing to them was the most psychological loss I have ever seen, it wasn't due to their tactic, not their roster quality, not anything else, it was purely just because they were not ready for it and that's it.

This is why I honestly believe that we should see Dortmund work on the last weeks, how they could do that is beyond me, that's managers job, but they need to be more consistent on the last weeks to get the title.

[Lafu]

The conditions are still possible because we also won't know what will happen in the 90 minutes of the match, especially in terms of the condition of the players, they can actually still be said to be balanced in this regard.
But on the other hand, with the current conditions, especially looking at the odds, it is certain that Leipzig is the favorite in the match which will be held at the Berlin Olympic Stadium because with the mental condition and performance in this season's competition, Leipzig still has a better score, especially for the DFB as well as Leipzig. destroying his opponent by a margin of more than 2 goals which could have been a consideration.

Leipzig is not only the favorite because of the odds , they have some really high quality players in there team.
But i guess we will see a lot Frankfurt fans in the Olympic Stadium in Berlin and if there are enough they can push there team.
I dont think when Leipzig will win this final that they destroying Frankfurt.
The best outcome would be overtime and then get into the penalties.

[Pulsar77]

Lewandowski's departure from the Bundesliga has affected the league deeply as well. I mean especially the top scorers table. Because you know how dominant Lewandowski was when he was wearing Bayern Munich shirt. For example, he scored 35 goals in the 2021/2022 season and pulled away from his nearest competitor by 11 goals. But now we see nobody who was able to score a lot of goals in this season. There was a tight competition for being top scorer for sure but the player with the most goals scored only 16 goals.

I wonder whether we will see a special scorer like Lewandowski again in the near future. I had big expectations from Nkunku truthfully. But his injury caused him to miss 9 league matches which was really a big hindrance for him to score more goals.

[Raflesia]

Leipzig is not only the favorite because of the odds , they have some really high quality players in there team.
But i guess we will see a lot Frankfurt fans in the Olympic Stadium in Berlin and if there are enough they can push there team.
I dont think when Leipzig will win this final that they destroying Frankfurt.
The best outcome would be overtime and then get into the penalties.

The hallmark for Frankfurt is this.
Just like last season when their fans packed Camp nou when they met in the Europa League and so they were in the final and won against Rangers for that. They have a lot of loyal fans for Frankfurt which indeed this can also be an added strength due to the atmosphere generated which of course sometimes damages the mentality of the opposing players.
Right now, even though Frankfurt is not really the favorite, I think they can still do it, although it's a little difficult.
h2h for now in the bundesliga they are also even but in these 2 meetings Frankfurt can be said to be superior in goals so it is possible that this will also be another passion for them.

[Docnaster]

Having an understanding of how Dortmund needs to be a lot more "calm" when it comes down to the last games would be the key thing to work on and it is not going to be easy. Bayern didn't tremble, they won the last game just like they suppose to and Mainz wasn't really a team that Dortmund should be having trouble against neither, losing to them was the most psychological loss I have ever seen, it wasn't due to their tactic, not their roster quality, not anything else, it was purely just because they were not ready for it and that's it.

This is why I honestly believe that we should see Dortmund work on the last weeks, how they could do that is beyond me, that's managers job, but they need to be more consistent on the last weeks to get the title.

How Borussia Dortmund who kept cool to beat Leipzig a week before the last matchweek, was unable to win Mainz at home has remained a very big surprise for me. I expected a better team performance from the Dortmund players.
This is the closest they've come to winning the German Bundesliga since they last won it in 2012 and now that they failed to win it, i think it'll be difficult to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the German league.

[bekti3]

Thomas Tuchel will build the Bayern Munich team for a better season of course and we will see Thomas Tuchel's real performance, this season Thomas Tuchel has been considered a failure to handle Bayern even though this team won the Bundesliga but overall after Thomas Tuchel handled this team it did not develop quite the opposite, maybe It's because of time, but if Thomas Tuchel starts this season and builds the team he wants then there's no excuse for him if Bayern can't get back to their best.

I would not consider Thomas Tuchel to be a coach who failed at Bayern Munich at the moment, because apart from the problem of a very short time for Thomas Tuchel in terms of handling Bayern Munich this season, Thomas Tuchel also still needs some new strategies to be brought into the team that at the moment basically it is very possible next season so that the assessment of Thomas Tuchel's failure or success at Bayern Munich is when next season is finished, not this season.

however for now it's just a warm up and indeed to say he failed just because he became a substitute coach and several times surprised because the adaptation has not gone according to plan this can not be fully justified.
Now it's a new season, we still don't know and if indeed the performance doesn't match expectations it can be said to be a failure, but with the current preparations, of course something like this is still uncertain.

[laurenB7742]

Having an understanding of how Dortmund needs to be a lot more "calm" when it comes down to the last games would be the key thing to work on and it is not going to be easy. Bayern didn't tremble, they won the last game just like they suppose to and Mainz wasn't really a team that Dortmund should be having trouble against neither, losing to them was the most psychological loss I have ever seen, it wasn't due to their tactic, not their roster quality, not anything else, it was purely just because they were not ready for it and that's it.
This is why I honestly believe that we should see Dortmund work on the last weeks, how they could do that is beyond me, that's managers job, but they need to be more consistent on the last weeks to get the title.

How Borussia Dortmund who kept cool to beat Leipzig a week before the last matchweek, was unable to win Mainz at home has remained a very big surprise for me. I expected a better team performance from the Dortmund players.
This is the closest they've come to winning the German Bundesliga since they last won it in 2012 and now that they failed to win it, i think it'll be difficult to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the German league.

The Dortmund team was in very good form. And in such form, they can't even win at home against Mainz. This is very disappointing and sad. Dortmund's players should have performed more responsibly. The poor performance of Dortmund's defenders was the main reason for their defeat. Had Dortmund's defense been strong against Mainz, they could have won the match.

But I am very upset with the Dortmund management. Winning the title was never their goal. They will create players and earn money by selling players. Haaland was their main striker in the previous season. Had Haaland and Haller been in Dortmund's attack this season, Dortmund would have been able to win the title this season.

[Josefjix]

Lewandowski's departure from the Bundesliga has affected the league deeply as well. I mean especially the top scorers table. Because you know how dominant Lewandowski was when he was wearing Bayern Munich shirt. For example, he scored 35 goals in the 2021/2022 season and pulled away from his nearest competitor by 11 goals. But now we see nobody who was able to score a lot of goals in this season. There was a tight competition for being top scorer for sure but the player with the most goals scored only 16 goals.

I wonder whether we will see a special scorer like Lewandowski again in the near future. I had big expectations from Nkunku truthfully. But his injury caused him to miss 9 league matches which was really a big hindrance for him to score more goals.

Christopher Nkunku, one of the Bundesliga's most impressive players, has scored the most goals this season (16). There will be no backup replacement for Robert Lewandowski, who had a fantastic season with Bayern Munich. With his world-class finishes, he is scoring and double the goals leader board. The former Bavarian striker is the current top goal scorer in La Liga, which is a perfect example of how good products always have a lengthy life span. Robert Lewandowski is able to survive everywhere, despite Barcelona's catastrophic financial troubles. 

[Strongkored]

How will the fate of Thomas Tuchel at Bayern Munich after Bayern sacked CEO Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic as sports directors? Kahn made a change in the middle of the season because of seeing a decline in Munich’s performance but the change of coach didn’t seem to give a better thing because even though Bayern Munich could eventually win the Bundesliga because of Borussia Dortmund who wasn’t lucky enough in the last game. https://www.90min.com/posts/thomas-tuchel-reacts-bayern-sack-oliver-kahn-hasan-salihamidzic
There is no news that Tuchel will leave Bayern Munich but the new CEO may also make a big change because he wants to see this big club return to its best performance and it is not only in the Bundesliga competition or other local tournaments but also in the European competition where they will also compete next season, the renewal not only by buying a few players but maybe a change of coach, although Tuchell still has the ability to build Munich even better because the time he spends is relatively short.

[Oneandpure]

Christopher Nkunku, one of the Bundesliga's most impressive players, has scored the most goals this season (16). There will be no backup replacement for Robert Lewandowski, who had a fantastic season with Bayern Munich. With his world-class finishes, he is scoring and double the goals leader board. The former Bavarian striker is the current top goal scorer in La Liga, which is a perfect example of how good products always have a lengthy life span. Robert Lewandowski is able to survive everywhere, despite Barcelona's catastrophic financial troubles. 

Bundesliga loss one potential forward  Nkunku after moving to Chelsea next season, he was success become top scorer in this season by scoring 16 goals although has long term absent due injury. After leaving by Robert Lewandowski seems Bundesliga loss forward with scoring above 20 goals in one season, seems season 2022/23 as the proof how fewest goals scoring by top scorer Bundesliga only 16 goals between Nkunku and Werder Bremen striker Niclas Füllkrug. I don't expected for upcoming season has forward or Bundesliga top scorer can scoring above 20 goals after Lewandowski moving to Barcelona, Bayern Munich still can't find replacement for space left by Lewandowski because most scoring goals by Gnabry just score 14 goals in this season.

[bct_ail]

Heidenheim had dramatic win from Regensburg because they had just made epic comeback after scores 2 goals in extra time and it makes their position finish at first place and automatically promote to Bundesliga 1 and this result also makes Hamburg fans feel dissapoint because they only finish at 3rd place

That reminded me of 2001. Schalke had won its game and was already celebrating the championship. But the game between Hamburger SV and Bayern Munich was not over yet. And in the last second Bayern Munich scored the goal to 1-1 from a free kick. So Bayern Munich was German champion and Schalke for 4 minutes.

But here it was different, because Hamburger SV had already secured place 3 and had to hope for a defeat of Heidenheim.

[Cryptmuster]

How will the fate of Thomas Tuchel at Bayern Munich after Bayern sacked CEO Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic as sports directors? Kahn made a change in the middle of the season because of seeing a decline in Munich’s performance but the change of coach didn’t seem to give a better thing because even though Bayern Munich could eventually win the Bundesliga because of Borussia Dortmund who wasn’t lucky enough in the last game. https://www.90min.com/posts/thomas-tuchel-reacts-bayern-sack-oliver-kahn-hasan-salihamidzic
There is no news that Tuchel will leave Bayern Munich but the new CEO may also make a big change because he wants to see this big club return to its best performance and it is not only in the Bundesliga competition or other local tournaments but also in the European competition where they will also compete next season, the renewal not only by buying a few players but maybe a change of coach, although Tuchell still has the ability to build Munich even better because the time he spends is relatively short.

I don’t know if Tuchel can improve Bayern, just look at the substitutions that he made in the last match with Cologne, I’m not sure that he himself understood what he was doing. Even if Tuchel is fired now, who will you put in his place? It would be good to return Negelsmann, but I doubt that this will happen, and I don’t see any other candidates now who could become a worthy coach of Bayern, it’s difficult to answer.

[klidex]

How will the fate of Thomas Tuchel at Bayern Munich after Bayern sacked CEO Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic as sports directors? Kahn made a change in the middle of the season because of seeing a decline in Munich’s performance but the change of coach didn’t seem to give a better thing because even though Bayern Munich could eventually win the Bundesliga because of Borussia Dortmund who wasn’t lucky enough in the last game. https://www.90min.com/posts/thomas-tuchel-reacts-bayern-sack-oliver-kahn-hasan-salihamidzic
There is no news that Tuchel will leave Bayern Munich but the new CEO may also make a big change because he wants to see this big club return to its best performance and it is not only in the Bundesliga competition or other local tournaments but also in the European competition where they will also compete next season, the renewal not only by buying a few players but maybe a change of coach, although Tuchell still has the ability to build Munich even better because the time he spends is relatively short.

I don’t know if Tuchel can improve Bayern, just look at the substitutions that he made in the last match with Cologne, I’m not sure that he himself understood what he was doing. Even if Tuchel is fired now, who will you put in his place? It would be good to return Negelsmann, but I doubt that this will happen, and I don’t see any other candidates now who could become a worthy coach of Bayern, it’s difficult to answer.

Actually Bayern Munich doesn't need a new coach but only needs to improve the performance of its players in the next season to be able to win the big league.
I'm not sure even if Tuchel leaves Bayern Munich it won't get better.
Because the problem here is with the Bayern Munich players who must be trained strongly and ready to face other strong clubs.
Changing trainers will only make things worse.

[Rockstarguy]

Thomas Tuchel will build the Bayern Munich team for a better season of course and we will see Thomas Tuchel's real performance, this season Thomas Tuchel has been considered a failure to handle Bayern even though this team won the Bundesliga but overall after Thomas Tuchel handled this team it did not develop quite the opposite, maybe It's because of time, but if Thomas Tuchel starts this season and builds the team he wants then there's no excuse for him if Bayern can't get back to their best.

I would not consider Thomas Tuchel to be a coach who failed at Bayern Munich at the moment, because apart from the problem of a very short time for Thomas Tuchel in terms of handling Bayern Munich this season, Thomas Tuchel also still needs some new strategies to be brought into the team that at the moment basically it is very possible next season so that the assessment of Thomas Tuchel's failure or success at Bayern Munich is when next season is finished, not this season.

Thomas Tuchel tried his best for Bayern Munich and did well for the club by winning the championship in a short time as a coach. The very time he became coach for Bayern Munich is a difficult time that some coaches won't be able to achieve success but with all difficulties he still ended with a good result.  If Bayern Munich didnt end up winning Bundesliga I won't have blamed Tuchel because it is not his fault.

[Avirunes]

Thomas Tuchel tried his best for Bayern Munich and did well for the club by winning the championship in a short time as a coach. The very time he became coach for Bayern Munich is a difficult time that some coaches won't be able to achieve success but with all difficulties he still ended with a good result.  If Bayern Munich didnt end up winning Bundesliga I won't have blamed Tuchel because it is not his fault.

With such short amount of time it is tough for any manager and Tuchel still managed Bayern better anyway. Well to be honest he was lucky but I think even if the result would have gone the other way, they wouldn't have put blame on Tuchel. The situation at Bayern wasn't great to begin with when he arrived and Bayern had some tough fixtures with CL games as well so it was tough for Tuchel especially coming after a break of nearly 6 months.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

BVB's Raphael Guerreiro, who didn't sign a new contracted is now getting linked to FC BAYERN, same old.

He was one of Tuchel's favourite players back when he coached in Dortmund and now tries to get him to move to Munich.

My hate for Bayern will forever be real, every year the same.
Hopefully he goes to another league and not to these clowns, praying for that!

Bellingham also has the green light to go to a new team, another sad story but it was expected. Most likely he with be with Real next season, it's just about the money now.

What I never understand is why Dortmund is often making so bad deal when giving up superstars. Real doesn't have enough money to pay the transfer fee so they are asking to pay like 100 million plus extras, wtf is this. If he was in England or Spain some teams would pay 200 million in cash.

But Dortmund always gets some offers wher they are trying to pay in instalments of 3-4 years, ridiculous.

If you can't afford a player, don't buy him and don't pay horrendous salaries to lure players to Madrid.
Financial fairplay, yeah right.

[Velvet78]

Schalke couldn't save themselves from relegating directly. They still had a chance to at least join play-out games on the final week. Getting a win against Leipzig was going to be enough to do that but they couldn't show a satisfying level of performance and lost that game as well. After watching them in the 2nd Bundesliga I thought they would be better here this time.

However we saw nothing different than Schalke in general. There was a time period they started to get better results which gave them the chance to fight for play-out before the end. But they wasted it as well.

Schalke were at place 17 and 18 for 23 matchdays. Their highest place in the table was place 12 at matchday 6. They tried the whole season not to get relegated. Now they have to go back down to Bundesliga 2 after only one year. Last season they were the favourites for promotion. It will certainly be more difficult now and we will see if Schalke will have to stay out of Bundesliga 1 for a longer time.

I don't know how they can perform so differently in the 2nd Bundesliga and Bundesliga. I know that there is a solid quality difference but still Schalke aren't a team with no experience in this league. They have really nice memories in here as well. They just can't do anything to bring back those times. There has gotta be a way to make a big improvement.

I wonder how rich they are now. I guess they aren't in a very stable condition financially. But if they still have enough funds to convince some useful players then they should go for it. However they can't convince them in the second league so they will need to wait for promoting to the Bundesliga again.