Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud)

[hdbuck]

Hide & seek. That's Bitcoin's killer app. ^^

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[Zarathustra]

Ah. So many "bitcoiners" basing their decisions on charismatic leaders. A mindset so incredibly toxic for Bitcoin and so anti-cypherpunk values.

Charisma has always big influence. Otherwise there won't be this endless thread where some 'bitcoiners' endlessly concentrate their 'energy' on Mike H., Gavin A. or Peter R. on one side and praise the Totalitarians on the other side.

[muyuu]

Ah. So many "bitcoiners" basing their decisions on charismatic leaders. A mindset so incredibly toxic for Bitcoin and so anti-cypherpunk values.

Charisma has always big influence. Otherwise there won't be this endless thread where some 'bitcoiners' endlessly concentrate their 'energy' on Mike H., Gavin A. or Peter R. on one side and praise the Totalitarians on the other side.

Of course it does, and the more mainstreamer sheep there are in the community, the more herding there will be. The test for Bitcoin is carrying on ignoring this intense noise trying to destabilise it and influence it.

[muyuu]

Ah. So many "bitcoiners" basing their decisions on charismatic leaders. A mindset so incredibly toxic for Bitcoin and so anti-cypherpunk values.

Charisma has always big influence. Otherwise there won't be this endless thread where some 'bitcoiners' endlessly concentrate their 'energy' on Mike H., Gavin A. or Peter R. on one side and praise the Totalitarians on the other side.

By the way, thanks for the heads up.



https://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/page-109#post-3862

Seen here posted by you: https://archive.is/rgFev

[hdbuck]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!



ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

[iCEBREAKER]

tl;dr lol get rekt mate

[Zarathustra]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

[iCEBREAKER]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

Poor Peter R, he got #R3KT by the sensor ships!   

[hdbuck]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

there is no totalitarian cheerleader (otoh right back at you, statist/corporatist) here if not for bitcoin total victory only.

im not letting reddit noobs and charlatan wannabes spreading misinformation and fud about the most promising technology of the century.

bitcoin is doing fine, ignoring your whining attacks, socialist brigading, and pseudodemocratic voting will lead it towards new highs.

now if you'd just fork off already, that would be surprisingly constructive from you trolls.

talk is cheap kiddos.

[muyuu]

Guaranteed that it went into some political rant, he just cannot help it.

Thankfully it wasn't allowed this time. It's cringe-worthy.

[Zarathustra]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

You know that you are lying. I don't have to move goalposts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.msg12955016;topicseen#msg12955016

[Zarathustra]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

there is no totalitarian cheerleader (otoh right back at you, statist/corporatist) here if not for bitcoin total victory only.

im not letting reddit noobs and charlatan wannabes spreading misinformation and fud about the most promising technology of the century.

You? Who are you? Nobody is discussing your 'concepts' anywhere in the cyberspace. It's Peter's papers that lead to hyperventilation among a bunch of haters. Banning, censoring and hyperventilation just leads to additional PR. Go on!

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/666980391883001857

[hdbuck]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

there is no totalitarian cheerleader (otoh right back at you, statist/corporatist) here if not for bitcoin total victory only.

im not letting reddit noobs and charlatan wannabes spreading misinformation and fud about the most promising technology of the century.

You? Who are you? Nobody is discussing your 'concepts' anywhere in the cyberspace. It's Peter's papers that lead to hyperventilation among a bunch of haters. Banning, censoring and hyperventilation just leads to additional PR. Go on!

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/666980391883001857

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bitcoin is doing fine, ignoring your whining attacks, socialist brigading, and pseudodemocratic voting will lead it towards new highs.

now if you'd just fork off already, that would be surprisingly constructive from you trolls.

talk is cheap kiddos.

[Zarathustra]

L.M.A.O

cens0rshipppp!

#R3KT!


ps: for people still having trouble to read, this conference is NOT about the blocksize: "scaling bitcoin conference"

The haters last laugh, before they get their laughable cap teared down next year. Banning and censoring helps a lot. But not your side, as all the cheerleders of the Totalitarians ridiculously believe.

there is no totalitarian cheerleader (otoh right back at you, statist/corporatist) here if not for bitcoin total victory only.

im not letting reddit noobs and charlatan wannabes spreading misinformation and fud about the most promising technology of the century.

You? Who are you? Nobody is discussing your 'concepts' anywhere in the cyberspace. It's Peter's papers that lead to hyperventilation among a bunch of haters. Banning, censoring and hyperventilation just leads to additional PR. Go on!

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/666980391883001857

...
bitcoin is doing fine, ignoring your whining attacks, socialist brigading, and pseudodemocratic voting will lead it towards new highs.

now if you'd just fork off already, that would be surprisingly constructive from you trolls.

talk is cheap kiddos.

Not tonight dear. 2016 is the year with block reward halving and block size cap increase. You will then have the freedom to run an old core implementation on a dying chain. Have fun!

[Lauda]

Poor Peter R, he got #R3KT by the sensor ships!  

For some unknown reason this made me laugh. Poor Peter Rtroll .

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

If you analyze and compare the amount of "people" that were in favor of XT when it was supposed to be "right fucking now" and the amount of "people" that are still posting around here (in favor) you can clearly see that most were just shill accounts. We're left with a few trolls that have not stopped trying to manipulate people and divert arguments. The chances for XT are slim, if not null right now. I'm still curious as to why they keep coming back here and don't stay on their forum? It's probably very lonely there.
Update:
Once again, BIP101 != XT.

[VeritasSapere]

Poor Peter R, he got #R3KT by the sensor ships!  

For some unknown reason this made me laugh. Poor Peter Rtroll .

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

If you analyze and compare the amount of "people" that were in favor of XT when it was supposed to be "right fucking now" and the amount of "people" that are still posting around here (in favor) you can clearly see that most were just shill accounts. We're left with a few trolls that have not stopped trying to manipulate people and divert arguments. The chances for XT are slim, if not null right now. I'm still curious as to why they keep coming back here and don't stay on their forum? It's probably very lonely there.

It was never intended or supposed to be right now. The fork coded into BIP101 can not even be triggered until January 2016. I have presented real arguments even though you deny that I have done so, I recognize and acknowledge your position, you could at least have the courtesy to do the same.

Furthermore the chances of BIP101 forking the network are still somewhat of an unknown since miners tend to be highly risk adverse, what I suspect is happening is that they are giving Core the chance to increase the blocksize before January. If this does not happen before then we might see an exodus of the hashing power towards BIP101. Since the fork can not be activated before January, therefore it does make sense that the miners are holding back in order to see what will happen before then, time will tell. One thing that I am sure of however is that Core will not be able to keep the blocksize at one megabyte forever without causing a split in Bitcoin.

The simple reason why BIP101 will continue to gain support is because it increases the blocksize whereas Core presently does not. There certainly are good arguments that can be made which favor increasing the blocksize and further decentralizing development.

[Zarathustra]

Poor Peter R, he got #R3KT by the sensor ships!  

For some unknown reason this made me laugh. Poor Peter Rtroll .

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

If you analyze and compare the amount of "people" that were in favor of XT when it was supposed to be "right fucking now" and the amount of "people" that are still posting around here (in favor) you can clearly see that most were just shill accounts. We're left with a few trolls that have not stopped trying to manipulate people and divert arguments. The chances for XT are slim, if not null right now. I'm still curious as to why they keep coming back here and don't stay on their forum? It's probably very lonely there.

It was never intended or supposed to be right now.

They're lying notoriously:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162684.msg12379135#msg12379135

[ATguy]

Furthermore the chances of BIP101 forking the network are still somewhat of an unknown since miners tend to be highly risk adverse, what I suspect is happening is that they are giving Core the chance to increase the blocksize before January. If this does not happen before then we might see an exodus of the hashing power towards BIP101. Since the fork can not be activated before January, therefore it does make sense that the miners are holding back in order to see what will happen before then, time will tell. One thing that I am sure of however is that Core will not be able to keep the blocksize at one megabyte forever without causing a split in Bitcoin.

The simple reason why BIP101 will continue to gain support is because it increases the blocksize whereas Core presently does not. There certainly are good arguments that can be made which favor increasing the blocksize and further decentralizing development.

Pretty much my thinking, either the next month conference sets how (and when) the blocksize limit is increased or (because of the incopetence to act) could get BIP101 more wide support (because it is the only working solution right now). I preffer if the next month conference gets consensus about the one time blocksize increase, and whenever the blocks become filled again in future another blocksize limit adjustment has to be made (hopefully not taking 1 year of pain in future again )

[Carlton Banks]

I preffer if the next month conference gets consensus about the one time blocksize increase, and whenever the blocks become filled again in future another blocksize limit adjustment has to be made (hopefully not taking 1 year of pain in future again )

What would you say if the consensus at the conference was a design for scaling up that did not involve altering the blocksize? That's apparently what that conference is about (all solutions, not just one engineering approach).

[iCEBREAKER]

Poor Peter R, he got #R3KT by the sensor ships!  

For some unknown reason this made me laugh. Poor Peter Rtroll .

Next year?  LOL, remember when you thought XT was going to happen Right Fucking Now, but then it failed?

When XT 2.0, AKA Unlimited, fails next year, I bet you will just move the goalposts again.

If you analyze and compare the amount of "people" that were in favor of XT when it was supposed to be "right fucking now" and the amount of "people" that are still posting around here (in favor) you can clearly see that most were just shill accounts. We're left with a few trolls that have not stopped trying to manipulate people and divert arguments. The chances for XT are slim, if not null right now. I'm still curious as to why they keep coming back here and don't stay on their forum? It's probably very lonely there.

"zomg sensor ships" is funny because it sends up Gavinista theft of a powerful word usually reserved for situations more serious than quibbles over internet forum moderation.

I'm coming around to the Gavinistas ~= JTRIG POV.

Their Big Lie is that Bitcoin was created to replace commercial banking, not central banking (as if the Genesis Text was about $2 ATM fees instead of TBTF bailouts).