Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud)

[VeritasSapere]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

[yampi]

Bitcoin XT? Blasphemy!
It's been the tradition of Bitcoin to have the same block size for all fucking eternity ever.
These liberals are destroying our anti-centralist values.
I propose we make core the only valid client and the biggest pool right now the only valid pool that way we can keep these centralist blasphemers from dirtying our bitcoin.

[hdbuck]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

[Zarathustra]

The XT supporters make their true intentions clear:

I think what your missing is that the only consensus that matters is that formed by the longest persistent chain. If the longest chain includes blocks larger than 1 MB, well that is just Bitcoin's consensus system doing what it's supposed to do. If--in the distant future--there was some important reason to maintain a small perpetual inflation rate, then the longest chain would probably include some small perpetual inflation.

THE REST OF MY QUOTE: But these sorts of events are not to be feared--they are what allows Bitcoin to adapt to challenges as they arise. They would not result in bitcoins having no value as some fear, but are what prevents Bitcoin from losing its value in the face of obstacles.

This is what the Bitcoin experiment is all about! If we can't trust the market to make good decisions for the health of Bitcoin--and if we really do need people like Greg and Adam making those decisions for us--then Bitcoin has already failed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3siyff/theymos_asked_for_a_reason_to_propose_any_block/cwxuv81

press it!

Why?  Because the idea that Bitcoin is ultimately controlled by the market is too dangerous?

If you truly believe so why not advocate to have the limit removed already??

The inflation rate is already governed by the market.  The market is entirely happy with the 25 BTC block rewards.  I also strongly suspect that the market will reduce the block reward to 12.5 BTC at the scheduled halving next summer.

Ah, he suppressed the rest of the quote. Surprise!

[hdbuck]

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The inflation rate is already governed by the market.  The market is entirely happy with the 25 BTC block rewards.  I also strongly suspect that the market will reduce the block reward to 12.5 BTC at the scheduled halving next summer.

not the market you dummy.. the protocol.
the very same that you cant change with your stupid gif.

[Peter R]

Bitcoin XT? Blasphemy!
It's been the tradition of Bitcoin to have the same block size for all fucking eternity ever.

The block size has been growing ~exponentially:

These liberals are destroying our anti-centralist values.
I propose we make core the only valid client and the biggest pool right now the only valid pool that way we can keep these centralist blasphemers from dirtying our bitcoin.

Well played, well played

[Lauda]

I dunno; ask the hundreds of people who up-voted it before it was deleted. 

You mean either one of these two:
1) Hundreds of shill accounts up-voting;
2) Deluding the average Joe with false charts.

Which one is it?

[hdbuck]

Bitcoin XT? Blasphemy!
It's been the tradition of Bitcoin to have the same block size for all fucking eternity ever.

The block size has been growing ~exponentially

lmao. you shameless troll.
cant even recognize an exponential chart.

[brg444]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

Now will you please fork off 

[Zarathustra]

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The inflation rate is already governed by the market.  The market is entirely happy with the 25 BTC block rewards.  I also strongly suspect that the market will reduce the block reward to 12.5 BTC at the scheduled halving next summer.

not the market you dummy.. the protocol.
the very same that you cant change with your stupid gif.

The market defines the protocol. One small dev team is not the market.

[hdbuck]

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The inflation rate is already governed by the market.  The market is entirely happy with the 25 BTC block rewards.  I also strongly suspect that the market will reduce the block reward to 12.5 BTC at the scheduled halving next summer.

not the market you dummy.. the protocol.
the very same that you cant change with your stupid gif.

The market defines the protocol. One small dev team is not the market.

lel nope. try again.
im done explaining such basics to you idiot.

[muyuu]

LOL the graph that is logarithmic in the axis but linear in the colour, that one is not quite as laughable as the made up scenario but still a good chuckle. RED ALERT haha.

What a charlatan. Peter R. Rizun.

[Zarathustra]

I dunno; ask the hundreds of people who up-voted it before it was deleted. 

You mean either one of these two:
1) Hundreds of shill accounts up-voting;
2) Deluding the average Joe with false charts.

Which one is it?

Ah, an elitist who believes his opinion is worth more than that of hundreds average Joes.

[hdbuck]

LOL the graph that is logarithmic in the axis but linear in the colour, that one is not quite as laughable as the made up scenario but still a good chuckle. RED ALERT haha.

What a charlatan. Peter R. Rizun.

meheh, besides much 'exponential' curve there..

The block size has been growing ~exponentially

to the 4 shills, thx for the night banter, been a while since we did not make such fun at you loosers.

im out, night ladies.

[VeritasSapere]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

Now will you please fork off  

Even BIP101 is within the Bitcoin improvement proposal scheme, that does not mean it will be implemented however. The fact is that none of the BIP proposals that intend to increase the blocksize have been implemented by Core and no definitive plans have been made by Core to implement any of these proposals in the future. Since Wladimir does have the final say in terms of what gets implemented into Core regardless of what anyone else thinks. So please refrain from calling me a liar, since even if I am wrong, if I am sincere I am not a liar. Calling me a liar implies that you know my intention and motivation which you do not, so please stop, since you are only making yourself look foolish by resorting to such attacks.

[Peter R]

to the 4 shills, thx for the night banter, been a while since we did not make such fun at you loosers.

im out, night ladies.

Sweet dreams and stay loose my friend

[brg444]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

Now will you please fork off  

Even BIP101 is within the Bitcoin improvement proposal scheme, that does not mean it will be implemented however. The fact is that none of the BIP proposals that intend to increase the blocksize have been implemented by Core and no definitive plans have been made by Core to implement any of these proposals in the future. Since Wladimir does have the final say in terms of what gets implemented into Core regardless of what anyone else thinks. So please refrain from calling me a liar, since even if I am wrong, if I am sincere I am not a liar. Calling me a liar implies that you know my intention and motivation which you do not, so please stop, since you are only making yourself look foolish by resorting to such attacks.

I do know your intentions, it is to manipulate and lie your way out of things. A perfect little puppet of your master Mike Hearn, olympic champion of deception.

Fork off my thread now would ya?

[Zarathustra]

...

The inflation rate is already governed by the market.  The market is entirely happy with the 25 BTC block rewards.  I also strongly suspect that the market will reduce the block reward to 12.5 BTC at the scheduled halving next summer.

not the market you dummy.. the protocol.
the very same that you cant change with your stupid gif.

The market defines the protocol. One small dev team is not the market.

lel nope. try again.
im done explaining such basics to you idiot.

It's the economy, stupid. It's not your Politbüro.

[VeritasSapere]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

Now will you please fork off  

Even BIP101 is within the Bitcoin improvement proposal scheme, that does not mean it will be implemented however. The fact is that none of the BIP proposals that intend to increase the blocksize have been implemented by Core and no definitive plans have been made by Core to implement any of these proposals in the future. Since Wladimir does have the final say in terms of what gets implemented into Core regardless of what anyone else thinks. So please refrain from calling me a liar, since even if I am wrong, if I am sincere I am not a liar. Calling me a liar implies that you know my intention and motivation which you do not, so please stop, since you are only making yourself look foolish by resorting to such attacks.

I do know your intentions, it is to manipulate and lie your way out of things. A perfect little puppet of your master Mike Hearn, olympic champion of deception.

Fork off my thread now would ya?

You should have maybe started this thread on Reddit instead then, that way you could have censored all dissenting opinion. Bitcointalk is supposed to be a place for free discussion, so I will continue to express myself here, present my theories and counter opposing arguments.

[Zarathustra]

The fact is that Core has not increased the blocksize and they have no plan in place to do so either. What you are saying does not change this reality.

What kind of fact is that? Even if they thought so, they aren't allowed to change their mind? Very weird thinking.

The fact is that right now Core will not increase the blocksize and they have not publicly stated their definitive plans to do so. It is strange that you find it so difficult to acknowledge this fact.

More disgusting lies  

Shame on you.

Please enlighten me and show where the Core development team has officially stated that they will definitely increase the blocksize. Has the Code been written and implemented? What is the date for increasing the blocksize and by how much will it be increased? I would presume this code is already active in the latest version of Core then? Show me evidence of this, I am waiting?

I presume you are unable to provide evidence to the contrary, so please refrain from unjustly calling me a liar then, thank you.

Now will you please fork off  

Even BIP101 is within the Bitcoin improvement proposal scheme, that does not mean it will be implemented however. The fact is that none of the BIP proposals that intend to increase the blocksize have been implemented by Core and no definitive plans have been made by Core to implement any of these proposals in the future. Since Wladimir does have the final say in terms of what gets implemented into Core regardless of what anyone else thinks. So please refrain from calling me a liar, since even if I am wrong, if I am sincere I am not a liar. Calling me a liar implies that you know my intention and motivation which you do not, so please stop, since you are only making yourself look foolish by resorting to such attacks.

They are not able to realize their self-destruction with this kind of 'discussion'. As if notorious name calling ever could convince the community.