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July 23, 2016, 02:10:43 PM |
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Iota nice idea, but still so bad marketing. Im never hear about iota
A good idea? It's revolutionary. Lol. It's not officially released yet. If the foundation is funded, it'll be made more known. i havent heard of it before either but i did take a look on their website.. referring to a crypto currency i would say nothing more or less then MaNy of the others; BUT their website is something that really caught my eye! absolutely well done on the website!very good job guys The marketing is all 100% deliberate, we needed to resolve internal community issues before going large, we are not interested in some pump and dump hype and thousands of new people flocking to IOTA for speculative purposes. As soon as the loose ends are tied up you will hear about IOTA all the time.
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July 23, 2016, 02:31:24 PM |
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http://foundation.iotatoken.com/ Foundation: 125.7460 Ti // 139 Ti ~90% of goalhttp://bigdeal.iotatoken.com/ Big deal: 3.6194 Ti // 83 Ti ~4% of goalGuys, is it really that hard to donate 10% of your Iota? If both projects pass, the rest of your Iota will likely be worth so so much more. Just take a moment to step back and look at the big picture. Your donation will be greatly appreciated! And is really important for the future success of Iota! Thanks!P.s. I donated 20% of all my Iotas already. Now its the turn of those that haven't donated yet. Scroll up - one reason it's hard to donate is that a fair number of participants are having trouble making transactions work. I haven't donated yet because I'm still dealing with wallet issues. Hopefully I'll have them all worked out by the 25th. Cfb has been very supportive so I'm not complaining - just pointing out that it's not just a matter of lazy or selfish hodlers. You can contact me via PM here or on slack Chat via PM (prefered) and I will see if I can help you with what ever problem.
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iotatoken
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July 23, 2016, 02:38:36 PM |
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http://foundation.iotatoken.com/ Foundation: 125.7460 Ti // 139 Ti ~90% of goalhttp://bigdeal.iotatoken.com/ Big deal: 3.6194 Ti // 83 Ti ~4% of goalGuys, is it really that hard to donate 10% of your Iota? If both projects pass, the rest of your Iota will likely be worth so so much more. Just take a moment to step back and look at the big picture. Your donation will be greatly appreciated! And is really important for the future success of Iota! Thanks!P.s. I donated 20% of all my Iotas already. Now its the turn of those that haven't donated yet. Scroll up - one reason it's hard to donate is that a fair number of participants are having trouble making transactions work. I haven't donated yet because I'm still dealing with wallet issues. Hopefully I'll have them all worked out by the 25th. Cfb has been very supportive so I'm not complaining - just pointing out that it's not just a matter of lazy or selfish hodlers. We have already solved this issue by allowing everyone in your position to pledge donation here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uyPZ15irSXiwWZt7w8O1FUWGkg8yrsa1OjAwBHX2Ts4/edit
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July 23, 2016, 03:04:27 PM |
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Will try ist by myself now und donate 850 GI to BigDeal. I have already donated to foundation 6%, I guess BigDeal is at the very end also important. Well done IOTATEAM Richi ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 23, 2016, 03:25:03 PM |
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Hi iotatoken, could you please tell me what will happen in case IOTA foundation will not reach its goal of 139 Ti. Will your team really move on forked version of IOTA for VCs and let this ones fate in hands of ICO buyers? 125 is not that far from goal, If you can do good things with 139, I guess you can do good things with 125 Ti also. Thanx for straight answer.
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July 23, 2016, 04:36:11 PM |
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Hi iotatoken, could you please tell me what will happen in case IOTA foundation will not reach its goal of 139 Ti. Will your team really move on forked version of IOTA for VCs and let this ones fate in hands of ICO buyers? 125 is not that far from goal, If you can do good things with 139, I guess you can do good things with 125 Ti also. Thanx for straight answer.
I will refrain from answering until Monday for one simple reason: This is a community decision, either they want an organized effort to bring IOTA to the real world, or not. 5% is absolutely nothing after people already have received 2000-4000% ROI on their original purchase. However I can say this: we need the technology to succeed, so we will indeed do whatever it takes to enable this both for our company and also for the vision of a true machine-2-machine economy, as we genuinely believe this is the key to unlocking broadscale IoT. Regarding "125 is not that far from 139", 139 was never the goal, 139 was the absolute bare minimum, that's why we're so strict about reaching that.
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July 23, 2016, 05:44:51 PM |
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Under current circumstances the release should be postponed:- the wallet is too complicated for the normal users out there => nodes / IPs / neighbors etc - the syncing doesn't work properly and takes ages - tx's are not being confirmed for a very long time atm Imagine what would happen, if this thing goes live on Monday: 1) Average Joe is full of enthusiasm 2) He installs the wallet 3) He doesnt know why it's not working because he hasn't read all the webpages, readme's etc BECAUSE he hoped it would be a nice UI/ experience 4) He continues reading a lot and finally sets everything up => result: no sync 5) at the end of the day: frustration: SCAM! IOTA s*it etcpp So PLEASE: Finish the software and code first before releasing this on the masses - you have no second chance for a first impression and especially in Cryptos it is essential to be stable/prepared at release - otherwise disaster is inevitable ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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July 23, 2016, 06:30:59 PM Last edit: July 23, 2016, 06:56:43 PM by 50cent_rapper |
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Hi iotatoken, could you please tell me what will happen in case IOTA foundation will not reach its goal of 139 Ti. Will your team really move on forked version of IOTA for VCs and let this ones fate in hands of ICO buyers? 125 is not that far from goal, If you can do good things with 139, I guess you can do good things with 125 Ti also. Thanx for straight answer.
I will refrain from answering until Monday for one simple reason: This is a community decision, either they want an organized effort to bring IOTA to the real world, or not. 5% is absolutely nothing after people already have received 2000-4000% ROI on their original purchase. However I can say this: we need the technology to succeed, so we will indeed do whatever it takes to enable this both for our company and also for the vision of a true machine-2-machine economy, as we genuinely believe this is the key to unlocking broadscale IoT. Regarding "125 is not that far from 139", 139 was never the goal, 139 was the absolute bare minimum, that's why we're so strict about reaching that. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.justpo.st%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F2015%2F03%2F4cd9251f8c5a9486cb198f059637c0b5.jpg&t=665&c=K6NNDawaFyKfEA) Common guys, we really need this 11 terra iotas! There will be no big deal without foundation! Just 1 terra iota per 1 whale ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Is it really so hurd ? Who is in game?
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iotatoken
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July 23, 2016, 07:02:06 PM |
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Under current circumstances the release should be postponed:- the wallet is too complicated for the normal users out there => nodes / IPs / neighbors etc - the syncing doesn't work properly and takes ages - tx's are not being confirmed for a very long time atm Imagine what would happen, if this thing goes live on Monday: 1) Average Joe is full of enthusiasm 2) He installs the wallet 3) He doesnt know why it's not working because he hasn't read all the webpages, readme's etc BECAUSE he hoped it would be a nice UI/ experience 4) He continues reading a lot and finally sets everything up => result: no sync 5) at the end of the day: frustration: SCAM! IOTA s*it etcpp So PLEASE: Finish the software and code first before releasing this on the masses - you have no second chance for a first impression and especially in Cryptos it is essential to be stable/prepared at release - otherwise disaster is inevitable ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) We have been very public about launch being a 3 step process that won't really finish until mid-2017. Check this latest interview for instance: https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-internet-of-things-blockchain-less-token-iota-launched-interview-with-co-founder Exchange listing will happen when we're ready. But it also needs to be emphasized for the 100th time that we did not make IOTA for speculators, we made it for devs and the IoT world where people are sane enough to know that any revolutionary technology takes time to perfect, so we're not even remotely worried.
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July 23, 2016, 07:03:50 PM |
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question is, who is the large whale who has not donated? Because many people have given more than 5%! Myself included.
If some gigantic whale gives nothing then we can't reach the goal unless smaller whales and fish start giving 25-45% which is absurd if we are trying to reach 5% of total supply.
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July 23, 2016, 07:12:14 PM |
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question is, who is the large whale who has not donated? Because many people have given more than 5%! Myself included.
If some gigantic whale gives nothing then we can't reach the goal unless smaller whales and fish start giving 25-45% which is absurd if we are trying to reach 5% of total supply.
I only know that LJ777 hold 2% of all iotas and do not willing to donate a single iota.
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rtrtcrypto
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July 23, 2016, 07:14:40 PM |
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I heard this... where did this rumor/truth start? That would be very disappointing - why would James do that?
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iotatoken
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July 23, 2016, 07:21:06 PM |
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I heard this... where did this rumor/truth start? That would be very disappointing - why would James do that?
You'd have to ask him. He insisted on contributing through work instead ( no idea why he considers them mutually exclusive as both are a no-brainer to me), but so far there is no effort from SuperNET apparent. My suggestion to the SuperNET crowd: make the devs and community realize that at the moment their 1.8% stake in IOTA is perhaps worth more than the rest of the SuperNET network combined, so perhaps prioritize it.
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July 23, 2016, 07:36:13 PM |
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Yes. Iota tech is great but it is new. The release should be slow and careful. The tech must be properly tested and debugged. No rush to exchanges
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July 23, 2016, 08:14:53 PM |
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Yes. Iota tech is great but it is new. The release should be slow and careful. The tech must be properly tested and debugged. No rush to exchanges
Indeed, but it needs to be mentioned that IOTA has been in beta since January and has gone through extensive testing for months.
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July 23, 2016, 08:32:30 PM |
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I heard this... where did this rumor/truth start? That would be very disappointing - why would James do that?
You'd have to ask him. He insisted on contributing through work instead ( no idea why he considers them mutually exclusive as both are a no-brainer to me), but so far there is no effort from SuperNET apparent. My suggestion to the SuperNET crowd: make the devs and community realize that at the moment their 1.8% stake in IOTA is perhaps worth more than the rest of the SuperNET network combined, so perhaps prioritize it. how much would their stake be in Ti?
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July 23, 2016, 08:36:20 PM |
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Seems like he has 55Ti or so... so, 5% of that. 2.779Ti I heard this... where did this rumor/truth start? That would be very disappointing - why would James do that?
You'd have to ask him. He insisted on contributing through work instead ( no idea why he considers them mutually exclusive as both are a no-brainer to me), but so far there is no effort from SuperNET apparent. My suggestion to the SuperNET crowd: make the devs and community realize that at the moment their 1.8% stake in IOTA is perhaps worth more than the rest of the SuperNET network combined, so perhaps prioritize it. how much would their stake be in Ti?
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July 23, 2016, 11:03:54 PM |
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Will try ist by myself now und donate 850 GI to BigDeal. I have already donated to foundation 6%, I guess BigDeal is at the very end also important. Well done IOTATEAM Richi ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's better to donate to foundation until the min goal is reached. Otherwise we'll end up with two failed goals instead of just one.
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July 23, 2016, 11:06:31 PM |
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The mind is a tricky thing - every human can measure the same data and come up with different conclusions.. If you've watched JL777 over the years, you will see that he/she ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) generally tightens up with negative pressure.. JL777 probably decided that he could contribute via adding to IOTA tech, vs directly donating, and he did invest a lot to show SuperNET support.. But, like one previous comment, types of contributions are NOT mutually exclusive, and both is an option.. But, the negative pressure can easily be seen as either a form of blackmail or as fair pressure, depending on conditioning, and this reflects negatively on both IOTA and SuperNET.. JL777 does have a history of himself NOT asking for contributions, only requesting investors, so it makes sense he does not support this method. So, I ask all sides to look at the details as NOT that anyone is being unreasonable or scamming, but that given the same set of facts each decided on different approaches of support.. Maybe there can be a cross contribution, JL777 can add IOTA support to his Iguana tech that is getting very close to working now and IOTA can support Iguana Tech.. And... Maybe both groups can purchase and/or donate each others Asset/Coins.. It doesn't have to be a struggle, it can be fun.. It doesn't have to be direct competition, it can be coopetition where all parties support each other while also making their tech the best, than when the time comes, they integrate, making their tech multiply (not additive).. Just my two cents... BTW: Yes, years ago I stopped using my Bitcointalk account, since I was not a fan of the trolling.. I created a new account today, just for this single comment..
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