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Does this have a white paper and/or any peer review? I love the claims. I'm totally into the utility and value proposition if it is secure and the claims about scaleability are true. Probably the latter is true because people would notice in about 10 seconds if it weren't. Just the security of this "tangle" style blockchain(ish) thing scares me.
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September 03, 2016, 07:26:41 AM |
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Does this have a white paper and/or any peer review? I love the claims. I'm totally into the utility and value proposition if it is secure and the claims about scaleability are true. Probably the latter is true because people would notice in about 10 seconds if it weren't. Just the security of this "tangle" style blockchain(ish) thing scares me.
http://iotatoken.com/IOTA_Whitepaper.pdf |
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September 04, 2016, 01:19:09 AM
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We are stucking now since 24hours at 80%, we ve a 3Tiota donation which left and a 5Tiota Donation from Iota Foundation which you already could transfer, and some other donations from left manualy claiming. http://bigdeal.iotatoken.com/So please, hurry up now with all transactions, to announce that big deal is happening! THX! And thx to all of you, who make this come true! David and CFB! thx for all, it was a great journey till now,, and now its starting! IOTA running towards finishline!  |
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September 04, 2016, 01:24:27 AM |
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Does this have a white paper and/or any peer review? I love the claims. I'm totally into the utility and value proposition if it is secure and the claims about scaleability are true. Probably the latter is true because people would notice in about 10 seconds if it weren't. Just the security of this "tangle" style blockchain(ish) thing scares me.
http://iotatoken.com/IOTA_Whitepaper.pdfThanks cfb. Put me out of my misery now. I don't want to have to try to understand a new white paper but if its one of your projects I know I have to. This going to be a long coffee filled week. |
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September 04, 2016, 01:31:36 AM |
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Let me start by seeing if I'm guessing on the right track.
It seems to me that the ONLY way you could scale to this degree is with a segragated witness style scheme. VERY VERY roughly it seems like the idea would have to be that each node will only monitor a small fraction of the total network, and any time you are interested in a transaction that is not taking place on the part you are monitoring, you will be forced to trust the consensus of the percentage of the network that IS monitoring the transaction you are interested in.
Am I on the right track?
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September 04, 2016, 01:34:06 AM |
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39 Ti // 50 Ti Just one more terra iota and we will meet the luey's mileston and he will add 3 Ti  I'm proud of the community guys, I belive we can do it together! http://bigdeal.iotatoken.com/ <--- support the iota adoptation outside the cryptocommunity ! When the manual claim will be released we should pass 40 Ti. Just mine will add a bit more than 0.4 Ti so I guess with others it should be enough Well, manual claims are being delayed indeed. I guess Mr.Iotatoken intentionally delays with manual claims processing, to create more incentive for people to donate now, so Big Deal could reach minimum goal without those donations. Then he will add the donations from manual claims on the top. Sure this is just a guess, but it seems very probable to me (to avoid tautology, I wanted to say it is a "speculation", but that word is considered to be a foul term here, so one should avoid using that word if possible  ). Nothing wrong with that though, its ok tactics |
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September 04, 2016, 01:44:57 AM |
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IOTA running towards finishline!
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September 04, 2016, 05:33:07 AM |
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This major project and will look cool and happy to be in this yarn, in this case I get a warning when conducting transactions "INDEXOUTOFBOUNDS" when I thought this happened only in my wallet seems to have happened also with other users, hopefully this issue can be resolved and it's good to fix any problems before it really be great .
just waiting to see how to solve this on a slack channel #testing IOTA, hopefully I find a good answer, cheers
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September 04, 2016, 06:21:39 AM |
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Some time I will wait with the disorder ??
Many are troubled by the wallet, I'll be waiting for repairs to the problems being experienced another user ..
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September 04, 2016, 08:01:01 AM
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This major project and will look cool and happy to be in this yarn, in this case I get a warning when conducting transactions "INDEXOUTOFBOUNDS" when I thought this happened only in my wallet seems to have happened also with other users, hopefully this issue can be resolved and it's good to fix any problems before it really be great .
just waiting to see how to solve this on a slack channel #testing IOTA, hopefully I find a good answer, cheers
Did you try the latest version yet, I'm not sure whether the issue CfB is referring to is the same you're experiencing though: Come-from-Beyondhttp://188.138.57.93/IRI-1.0.5.jar- Fixes a bug that causes exception during transaction generation (if you node is not used for account login or spamming then you don't need to upgrade) |
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September 04, 2016, 10:05:28 AM |
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The coordinator had an issue and cfb upgraded it. It's up and running again, so the problem should be fixed.
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September 04, 2016, 12:46:46 PM |
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This is really Fantastic!!! |
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luey
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September 04, 2016, 01:12:09 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
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September 04, 2016, 01:27:27 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
Fuck yes. Nice work Luey. 7 Ti left. I can't wait to find out the details about this thing. Does anyone know when we'll actually find out the details? |
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September 04, 2016, 01:35:51 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
Fuck yes. Nice work Luey. 7 Ti left. I can't wait to find out the details about this thing. Does anyone know when we'll actually find out the details? Better not expect too much. Iirc its not like some big company or something. |
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September 04, 2016, 01:53:24 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
Fuck yes. Nice work Luey. 7 Ti left. I can't wait to find out the details about this thing. Does anyone know when we'll actually find out the details? Better not expect too much. Iirc its not like some big company or something. Greate! One guy at slack promised to send 5 Ti when we reach 45 Ti, and we are now at 43, thanks to luey!!! So just 2 Ti and we 100% fund it  |
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September 04, 2016, 02:18:15 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
Thanks Luey! |
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September 04, 2016, 02:28:13 PM |
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3Ti sent as promised, hash BWQIEGDPBZARGOQQKDVYMLFTTINSFEYUDZFOYMCUVMCVFMQJMHHSXCNCIRBXJZCBWTERCSJIWJENZ99 99
could not sent earlier, as was delayed due to client problems and my work.
IOTA 100% PERSISTANCE!
Fuck yes. Nice work Luey. 7 Ti left. I can't wait to find out the details about this thing. Does anyone know when we'll actually find out the details? Better not expect too much. Iirc its not like some big company or something. Greate! One guy at slack promised to send 5 Ti when we reach 45 Ti, and we are now at 43, thanks to luey!!! So just 2 Ti and we 100% fund it So Foundation needs to put 2 T and we ve reached that goal, right?, they can get it back from manually claims ) |
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September 04, 2016, 02:47:59 PM
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So Foundation needs to put 2 T
Nope, WE need to do it. I'll send 1 Ti. Can someone send the other one please? edit: 1 Ti sent, C9VWMHFHUBJJHRTBVHFNBSOWNNVIZSVVE9JHLRZTLKEKELFCDTUZGJWYTAVPDTNMQHZFNPKX9FIVC99 99 |
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September 04, 2016, 03:32:11 PM |
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Let me start by seeing if I'm guessing on the right track.
It seems to me that the ONLY way you could scale to this degree is with a segragated witness style scheme. VERY VERY roughly it seems like the idea would have to be that each node will only monitor a small fraction of the total network, and any time you are interested in a transaction that is not taking place on the part you are monitoring, you will be forced to trust the consensus of the percentage of the network that IS monitoring the transaction you are interested in.
Am I on the right track?
For full nodes it's not true. The scalability doesn't come for free, you have to pay with increased confirmation time. |
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