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August 25, 2021, 07:08:44 AM
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I would say that if they got one more player for SG that would have been awesome, more correctly get a proper one instead of someone else. I mean think about it, they could play Westbrook, Lebron, Melo, AD all together a fifth person that is as star as those names would make things so much better.
Westbrook can shoot but not that great with perimeter shots so yes, I agree with you that they need a shooting guard. An outside shooting specialists to be precise. But looking at the free agent tracker, there is not much good choice anymore. https://www.nba.com/players/free-agent-tracker/2021
Avery Bradley is unsigned but he is a defensive specialist. Danny Green also signed with the 76ers for a 2 year deal $20m. Lakers will have a hard time looking for that kind of role.
^ I'm confused with LBJ's tweet on Dudley's hiring. Hurts? Did Jared turned down an offer from Lebron to join Dallas because that's the only reason I could think of right now.
I think it's just because LBJ and Dudley had good connection already and it hurts him to not see Dudley in their bench anymore for other kinds of support.

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August 25, 2021, 07:18:18 AM
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I think it's just because LBJ and Dudley had good connection already and it hurts him to not see Dudley in their bench anymore for other kinds of support.
Isn't it a bit too late for him to be sentimental if that was the real reason? The guy has retired from @Reid's post. It would only make sense if he doesn't know of Jared's retirement.
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August 25, 2021, 08:33:26 AM
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What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Yes, he deserved that. He's the only player I think that averaging 40+ points per game but his team always loses last season. He is almost close to a franchise player and his loyalty paid off.

But Wizards shouldn't stop on that. They are far from being a contender in a much weaker Eastern Conference. They should try to acquire a big name on the free agency or try negotiating with other teams.

Wizard should do that, Beal alone can't carry this team but having another star that will help him will do.

But they have to be surrounded by role players who will really have a good impact to the team,
Big contract means nothing if there's no improvement.

I use to remember the Spurs back then, where stars are willing to earn much lesser for the sake
of being a title contender.
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August 25, 2021, 08:35:05 AM
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What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

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Beal can also play out this year, collect his 10 years of service, and re-sign with the Wizards on a five-year contract worth an estimated $235 million, a deal that would surpass Giannis Antetokounmpo (five years, $228 million) as the largest in NBA history. Other teams would only be able to offer four years and significantly less money.
source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947544-bold-predictions-for-nbas-top-5-trade-targets-right-now

Getting such a contract is a great success for any player. This is a really big and nice new home.

I guess Wizards really value what Beal is giving to them in the last couple of years. He was close to winning the scoring title last season if not for Curry's amazing scoring run.

I guess what they needed is another superstar to really help him. Westbrook provided that spark, but it was not enough as they are playing in the same position. Probably another good power forward or center would do a lot of help to at least bring the Wizards to the playoffs again next season or even get the hump over first round.
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August 25, 2021, 09:34:27 AM
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Pat Beverly is still not settled in a team yet? lol. I think no one wants this guy anymore, but sure if he will be traded with the Lakers and he would play what the team's needed him to play, then for sure he might stay for a while, and who knows, he might also win a championship.

Together with Howard, I guess they'll be the bad boys on the floor.
Patrick Beverley was traded to the Timberwolves one week ago. I don't know if the Wolves have a plan to trade him, but it seems that he is still not added to their roster. Regarding the Lakers, I guess they would rather sign Isaiah Thomas than Pat.

The chance for Thomas is much bigger than Pat being acquired by Lakers, LeBron is more interested with how Isaiah will help them
giving some additional offensive threats.

Though still an open deal for Lakers if they see some value for Pat which can be use as a good defensive stoppers.

Still not included with the Timberwolves roster but with his past tweets after the trade he's looking forward to play with the wolves
just don't have any updates if wolves have other plans for him.

I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

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August 25, 2021, 09:40:08 AM
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 I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.

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August 25, 2021, 10:20:54 AM
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I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

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August 25, 2021, 11:03:37 AM
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What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

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Beal can also play out this year, collect his 10 years of service, and re-sign with the Wizards on a five-year contract worth an estimated $235 million, a deal that would surpass Giannis Antetokounmpo (five years, $228 million) as the largest in NBA history. Other teams would only be able to offer four years and significantly less money.
source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947544-bold-predictions-for-nbas-top-5-trade-targets-right-now
Well, it looks like that the Wizards are fully committed in keeping Beal for 5 years.
Beal also promised that he will improve on his 3 point shooting and low post scoring. Another one is that the Wizards don't have any superstar like Beal but maybe, just maybe we can see rising players from the Wizards that will help him all throughout the season.

Now that Westbrook isn't on the Wizards anymore, Beal has all the time to create his own shots. He is the first option of the team and giving him the possible biggest contract in NBA history might happen. Lets see though because we might see some last minute changes Cheesy.

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 I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.
Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.

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August 25, 2021, 11:23:05 AM
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 I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.
Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.

Yes he's good before but do he still brought that talent now? We know talents fades over the years specially if he didn't play competitive basket ball for quite long time compare to Beverly where he is still active in the League, Although Beverly is not a scorer but for sure he will get into the nerves of the players since his main talent is hustle and defense which is unique for a point guard.

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August 25, 2021, 11:46:12 AM
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Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

I believed Lebron has nothing to do with that. He won't influence that signing since they are already complete. Lakers' GM has the final say on that. Either Pat or IT, I think no one from them will become a starter. It's like the Lakers are now just filling the empty slots on the backup side so any players will do depends on the contract.

The Lakers should enhance Caruso and try to be the best backup for Russell Westbrook, not Pat or IT. He's not a scorer type but more of passing skills. He is also athletic but needs more consistency. That's what the Lakers need.
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August 25, 2021, 12:34:13 PM
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IMO Westbrook's been a great add for the LA Lakers. He has already played with superstars, he played with the likes of KD, James Harden, Bradley Beal and that's not gonna be a problem for him.
He was underestimated for too long because Russell will probably give LA at least 15 points per night and lots of rebounds. Lakers stands for his great once in a lifetime opportunity not to be missed.
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August 25, 2021, 01:11:45 PM
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Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

I believed Lebron has nothing to do with that. He won't influence that signing since they are already complete. Lakers' GM has the final say on that. Either Pat or IT, I think no one from them will become a starter. It's like the Lakers are now just filling the empty slots on the backup side so any players will do depends on the contract.

The Lakers should enhance Caruso and try to be the best backup for Russell Westbrook, not Pat or IT. He's not a scorer type but more of passing skills. He is also athletic but needs more consistency. That's what the Lakers need.
Caruso though is not with the Lakers anymore, that's why they are trying to recruit Pat or IT.

In my opinion though, maybe James has something to say as to who is going out or who is in in the Lakers roster. IT has been out of the league for quite sometime so this might influence the Lakers decision whether to add him or not or choose to chase other players.

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August 25, 2021, 02:50:30 PM
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Isn't it a bit too late for him to be sentimental if that was the real reason? The guy has retired from @Reid's post. It would only make sense if he doesn't know of Jared's retirement.
Who knows? Maybe he was also surprised about the idea and didn't had the memo.  Grin It proves he is still just a player and not the owner of the Lakers.
Caruso though is not with the Lakers anymore, that's why they are trying to recruit Pat or IT.

In my opinion though, maybe James has something to say as to who is going out or who is in in the Lakers roster. IT has been out of the league for quite sometime so this might influence the Lakers decision whether to add him or not or choose to chase other players.
I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

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August 25, 2021, 03:21:41 PM
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I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Isaiah Thomas is just a literal backup now. Not a shooter or playmaker anymore. His skill and talent before are now gone even during back when he is on Cleveland Cavaliers. Pat Beverly is much good but I don't think he and Lebron will make chemistry. This guy is like Dennis Schroder.

I'm wondering why are the Lakers only limiting their options to these 2 players? They can offer a trade for someone else or try to get a good player in the free agency right?

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August 25, 2021, 03:23:29 PM
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I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.
And, we'd be surprised that two of them wasn't able to make on the Lakers roster (oops! spoiler alert*). Aren't they have tons of SG and PG in the current roster? Well, this isn't to spoil the fun  kind of post though, just my own opinion they got handful of ball-handlers already. Maybe they need one more on the front court position helping either AD, DW, and MG.
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August 25, 2021, 04:38:30 PM
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Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.
Yes he's good before but do he still brought that talent now? We know talents fades over the years specially if he didn't play competitive basket ball for quite long time compare to Beverly where he is still active in the League, Although Beverly is not a scorer but for sure he will get into the nerves of the players since his main talent is hustle and defense which is unique for a point guard.
I do believe that IT still has "some" talent left, I do not think that he is the same guy as he was on Celtics of course (which I agree was a horrible move) but that doesn't change the fact that he is still better than PatBev, that is the discussion here. If we were to compare which one I would get to Lakers if I had that power?

I would get IT in a heartbeat, I wouldn't get PatBev, plus Lakers locker room is filled with people who are both friends and very charming people who are always loving and having fun and laughing, with the addition of PatBev that will be ruining everything, dude is just out there looking for a fight and keeps on annoying people, I do not think that Lakers need a fighter, that would ruin the chemistry of the team, so I literally would prefer not getting anyone, instead of getting PatBev, he is a net negative when all things considered.

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August 25, 2021, 06:20:15 PM
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I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Isaiah Thomas is just a literal backup now. Not a shooter or playmaker anymore. His skill and talent before are now gone even during back when he is on Cleveland Cavaliers. Pat Beverly is much good but I don't think he and Lebron will make chemistry. This guy is like Dennis Schroder.

I'm wondering why are the Lakers only limiting their options to these 2 players? They can offer a trade for someone else or try to get a good player in the free agency right?
One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

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August 25, 2021, 06:32:06 PM
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One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.
He can give some quality minutes indeed, as a player it's a pleasure to come back and do what you really loves doing in your life, Thomas is a baller and he will appreciate whatever comes up from the Lakers just to give him another shot playing to this league.

And like what you have said, one year veteran contract is better than nothing at all.

With the Lakers, the recognitions coming from the fans might grow again knowing that he once a star before those injures and the death of he's siblings who really affected him inside.

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August 25, 2021, 07:49:56 PM
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One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

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