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August 18, 2021, 09:31:31 PM
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but PatBev doesn't have that talent at all, once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.

I disagree with that, if you see his contribution in the playoffs, you might change your statement. I believe the talent is there, in fact, I'm impressed with his defensive skills but the only problem is his attitude as he anymore playing based on the rules of the game, he lose the sportsmanship and he was just too arrogant to think that he can guard and possibly hurt anyone.

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August 18, 2021, 09:33:33 PM
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Thomas trained with LeBron James and Russell Westbrook on Tuesday and, moreover, he has already worn the Lakers' jersey. Despite his lack of continuity in these last seasons, Thomas could be the right profile for the Californians.
It's not surprising that Lebron and Thomas trained together, considering that they already were teammates in the Cavs in season 17/18. Anyway, it will be a great opportunity for Thomas to resume his career in the NBA if the Lakers decide to sign a contract with him.

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August 18, 2021, 09:40:50 PM
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once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.
More like an understatement to me, just because he was 30+ years old? I don't think so but experience matters in a basketball scene and his presence in the recent playoff defending Booker was the result of being as defensive as he was. I'm not that being defensive to him but the dude clearly shows up that he still has that hustle. He may not be at his prime anymore but educate another player with that kind of play he has and that kind of spirit lives on.
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August 18, 2021, 09:41:09 PM
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Thomas trained with LeBron James and Russell Westbrook on Tuesday and, moreover, he has already worn the Lakers' jersey. Despite his lack of continuity in these last seasons, Thomas could be the right profile for the Californians.
It's not surprising that Lebron and Thomas trained together, considering that they already were teammates in the Cavs in season 17/18. Anyway, it will be a great opportunity for Thomas to resume his career in the NBA if the Lakers decide to sign a contract with him.

His salary is not that much, I thought he had a max contract but I was wrong.
https://hoopshype.com/player/isaiah-thomas/salary/

I also don't know if he is already signed by the Lakers, but I believe if they will, he can be a great help on the floor if they'll give him more playing opportunities. He might be a liability in the defense but his offense is very impressive.

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August 18, 2021, 10:00:05 PM
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once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.
More like an understatement to me, just because he was 30+ years old? I don't think so but experience matters in a basketball scene and his presence in the recent playoff defending Booker was the result of being as defensive as he was. I'm not that being defensive to him but the dude clearly shows up that he still has that hustle. He may not be at his prime anymore but educate another player with that kind of play he has and that kind of spirit lives on.

The reason he was traded is not probably due to the decline of his performance, it's more like his attitude that he showed in the playoffs which is not acceptable for the NBA, I believe he was penalized on that.

he was fined one-game suspension after pushing CP3 in the final game.

https://hypebeast.com/2021/7/patrick-beverley-fined-one-game-suspension-chris-paul-shove

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August 18, 2021, 10:45:32 PM
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The reason he was traded is not probably due to the decline of his performance, it's more like his attitude that he showed in the playoffs which is not acceptable for the NBA, I believe he was penalized on that. he was fined one-game suspension after pushing CP3 in the final game.

I think no teams will take that as a reason in terms of trading a player. That attitude is common in the league.

Can you share with us a link stating that's the reason for his trade? If that's the reason, I found it unprofessional.

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August 18, 2021, 11:35:41 PM
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Pat Beverly to be traded again, this time to Timberwolves, second time in as many days that Pat has moved.



https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1427646798089359361

Yeah, he could play PG for the Wolves and he said via his twitter that he is happy with the trade. Wolves is a young team and Pat will be a good match because of his experience and his tenacity.

I like this trade.  Jarret Culver is a nice piece.  Wierd that the wolves gave up on him after just drafting him.  Still on a rookie deal.  Kid had serious game when he was a Texas tech and has had flashes in the NBA where he looked like he could be part of a young core piece for them.

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August 19, 2021, 12:58:37 AM
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The reason he was traded is not probably due to the decline of his performance, it's more like his attitude that he showed in the playoffs which is not acceptable for the NBA, I believe he was penalized on that. he was fined one-game suspension after pushing CP3 in the final game.

I think no teams will take that as a reason in terms of trading a player. That attitude is common in the league.

Can you share with us a link stating that's the reason for his trade? If that's the reason, I found it unprofessional.

Perhaps he was referring to Pat breaking Devin Booker's nose without any penalty or infraction from the NBA? For me, it looks like intentional, that's just my honest opinion.

I think he was traded because of other reasons though, maybe the Clippers is over the salary cap and then want to offload some players and the best choice is to let go of Pat. In which he was use as a leverage by the Grizzlies.

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August 19, 2021, 01:02:20 AM
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once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.
More like an understatement to me, just because he was 30+ years old? I don't think so but experience matters in a basketball scene and his presence in the recent playoff defending Booker was the result of being as defensive as he was. I'm not that being defensive to him but the dude clearly shows up that he still has that hustle. He may not be at his prime anymore but educate another player with that kind of play he has and that kind of spirit lives on.

He is still one of the best defensive player we have in the league, no doubt about it. He can still shutdown anyone from guard to shooting guard. He has quick hands and can read the defense as well. But I think that problem with Bev is that he is sometimes too aggressive and uses more of his mouth that's why he will get a technical fouls or worst ejection.

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August 19, 2021, 01:58:11 AM
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Pat Beverly to be traded again, this time to Timberwolves, second time in as many days that Pat has moved.



https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1427646798089359361

Yeah, he could play PG for the Wolves and he said via his twitter that he is happy with the trade. Wolves is a young team and Pat will be a good match because of his experience and his tenacity.

I like this trade.  Jarret Culver is a nice piece.  Wierd that the wolves gave up on him after just drafting him.  Still on a rookie deal.  Kid had serious game when he was a Texas tech and has had flashes in the NBA where he looked like he could be part of a young core piece for them.

Looks like Patrick Beverly has become the trending meme now in social media where he boasted about getting the championship when they got Kawhi Leonard. But now he is being traded to be the star on a team that has no chance to compete even in the NBA playoffs but things can change if someone has both motivations and skills. let's see upto where he could bring his new team this upcoming season.

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August 19, 2021, 02:40:15 AM
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The reason he was traded is not probably due to the decline of his performance, it's more like his attitude that he showed in the playoffs which is not acceptable for the NBA, I believe he was penalized on that.
I don't buy that but I guess the Clippers roster was just trying to make more improvement and I guess Bledsoe can make it.
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The Clippers will certainly miss every aspect of Beverley’s game. However, as they try to go over the hump and finally make it to the NBA Finals, they really needed to make some key changes that would improve their depth.

He is still one of the best defensive player we have in the league, no doubt about it. He can still shutdown anyone from guard to shooting guard. He has quick hands and can read the defense as well. But I think that problem with Bev is that he is sometimes too aggressive and uses more of his mouth that's why he will get a technical fouls or worst ejection.
He is and no one can deny that fact, look at Bookers field goal percentage in the WCF it literally dropped when he's being guarded by Pat Bev. I think he's just being him and that was his farewell message from his Instagram account.
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August 19, 2021, 03:03:43 AM
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but PatBev doesn't have that talent at all, once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.

I disagree with that, if you see his contribution in the playoffs, you might change your statement. I believe the talent is there, in fact, I'm impressed with his defensive skills but the only problem is his attitude as he anymore playing based on the rules of the game, he lose the sportsmanship and he was just too arrogant to think that he can guard and possibly hurt anyone.
Yes. He is one of the best in terms of defensive awareness and let us not take that away from him.
Some people are just looking at the ill attitude that he showed against CP3 when he lost his temper but that's emotion overflowing when you want the championship so bad.
I have been on that same feeling that's why I can't relate.
He doesn't mean any harm but CP3 also had a contribution on why it happened because of how he looked down on Pat at that moment.
Skill-wise? Pat Beverley is good with leadership as a bonus. Anyway, T'Wolves is a young team and might need a veteran so it's a good deal.
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August 19, 2021, 08:09:44 AM
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KAT's talent can be used somewhere, he can win a championship if he leaves Minnesota Timberwolves. It's not yet late for him though, just like Kevin Love back then, he was averaging a double-double but the team is unsuccessful, however, when he transferred to the Cleveland Cavaliers, that's where he got his championship.

For him to win a title, he needs to think out the box and find another team that suits to his position,

Maybe he can go to Blazers or GSW, both teams need a big man who can really contribute not only to defend but also to provide offense,
If he can adjust and play according to what the team needs him to contribute. He can win a title before retiring, but if he chooses to
stay with Minnesota and continue to have his paycheck without pressuring himself, it's his decision to make.
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August 19, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
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but PatBev doesn't have that talent at all, once upon a time he was a great defensive player but nowadays he is not even that anymore.

I disagree with that, if you see his contribution in the playoffs, you might change your statement. I believe the talent is there, in fact, I'm impressed with his defensive skills but the only problem is his attitude as he anymore playing based on the rules of the game, he lose the sportsmanship and he was just too arrogant to think that he can guard and possibly hurt anyone.
Yes. He is one of the best in terms of defensive awareness and let us not take that away from him.
Some people are just looking at the ill attitude that he showed against CP3 when he lost his temper but that's emotion overflowing when you want the championship so bad.
I have been on that same feeling that's why I can't relate.
He doesn't mean any harm but CP3 also had a contribution on why it happened because of how he looked down on Pat at that moment.
Skill-wise? Pat Beverley is good with leadership as a bonus. Anyway, T'Wolves is a young team and might need a veteran so it's a good deal.

Yes, one of the thing that Pat Beverly can offer to the young Wolves, his leadership because he is already a veteran. I remember Gary Payton when he become a Lakers, he teaches Kobe more on defense and we can see Kobe improved and learn a lot from Payton that time (minus the trash talk).

As for KAT, I would say that they either rebuild the Wolves to win a championship or just be traded to another and be part of a super team.

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August 19, 2021, 09:08:20 AM
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Why do most of the players are happy when they signed with the New York Knicks? I just don't understand the idea behind it.
https://www.nba.com/news/kemba-walker-perfect-timing-in-moving-to-knicks
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NEW YORK (AP) — The “Welcome to New York” signs decorating the outside of Madison Square Garden and hanging behind him were nice, though unnecessary.

Kemba Walker needs no introduction around here.

He’s a New York native who was already playing at Madison Square Garden in high school and made a memorable buzzer-beater during a historic Big East tournament run while playing for Connecticut.

Now he gets to see what he can do while playing there for the New York Knicks.

“It’s going to be better,” Walker said. “Ten times better.”
I knew Jordan loved playing at New York because of the crowd but never as an addition to their roster. It's the thrill of playing against them that makes him want to come back there over and over again.
Crowd clapping and cheering for you even if you are the away team as long as you amaze them with a record breaking game and something they didn't see for a long time.


I just its the thrill and atmosphere of the city itself, the Knicks, or Yankees, it's a historic team.

Lakers and Celtics are the two others cities which I know that can be name as such, the Forum, Staples center and then Boston Garden.

And with Kemba Walker, he is a native of New Yorker which makes this "welcoming" like sort of home coming for him.
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August 19, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
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KAT's talent can be used somewhere, he can win a championship if he leaves Minnesota Timberwolves. It's not yet late for him though, just like Kevin Love back then, he was averaging a double-double but the team is unsuccessful, however, when he transferred to the Cleveland Cavaliers, that's where he got his championship.

For him to win a title, he needs to think out the box and find another team that suits to his position,

Yep, he should go for at least a contenting team whether East or West.

Maybe he can go to Blazers or GSW, both teams need a big man who can really contribute not only to defend but also to provide offense,
If he can adjust and play according to what the team needs him to contribute. He can win a title before retiring, but if he chooses to
stay with Minnesota and continue to have his paycheck without pressuring himself, it's his decision to make.

On those two, I would say GSW, as he might have a reunion with Wiggins.

I'm not sure about the Blazers, it seems that they really lack something that even if Wiggins more there, they will still fall short of a championship.

Or Minnesota going into a rebuilding phase and kept him for at least 2 years and see how it blend.

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August 19, 2021, 01:10:08 PM
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Some news from Cleveland. The Cavs would be very interested in signing Denzel Valentine. The former Bulls player, not renewed by Chicago at the end of his contract, is still looking for his next team. For now, no attractive offers have arrived for the player, who's certainly one of the best free agents still on the market. No team has officially stepped up, but Cleveland seems interested in striking a deal with Valentine.
Injuries aside, Denzel Valentine still remains a player with good potential. In 2017-18, before the left knee problem that forced him to surgery, he had in fact shot with almost 39% from three on 4.8 average attempts per game.
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August 19, 2021, 01:49:03 PM
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Pat Beverly to be traded again, this time to Timberwolves, second time in as many days that Pat has moved.



https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1427646798089359361

Yeah, he could play PG for the Wolves and he said via his twitter that he is happy with the trade. Wolves is a young team and Pat will be a good match because of his experience and his tenacity.

Hope to see him happy when he already playing with the Wolves,

That team was already a good contender back then, when they still have Wiggins, KAT, DRose and Butler. But they did not maintain that squad instead, they trade those stars to another team and until now, the process of bringing good role players to work with KAT still unsuccessful. Maybe Pat may add some good spice for them.

KAT's talent can be used somewhere, he can win a championship if he leaves Minnesota Timberwolves. It's not yet late for him though, just like Kevin Love back then, he was averaging a double-double but the team is unsuccessful, however, when he transferred to the Cleveland Cavaliers, that's where he got his championship.
I'm pretty sure that he will get a championship once he leaves the Timberwolves but his current contract right now with the team is until 2024.
When Love leave the TWolves and joined LeBron in the Cavaliers, he got his championship there and I'm sure that the same will happen to KAT. Let him join to a team where there is at least 1 superstar or an average team maybe that is entering the playoffs.

Acquiring Beverley will not change anything with the team. There defense might increase with the addition of him but still it isn't enough for them to be at least a playoff contender. I just hope that KAT will be traded to another team because his career will just go to waste if he stays there unless the Wolves will get another superstar that will help him then he might stay.

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August 19, 2021, 01:53:11 PM
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I just hope that KAT will be traded to another team because his career will just go to waste if he stays there unless the Wolves will get another superstar that will help him then he might stay.

Put KAT in GSW and suddenly GSW will become one of the favorites to win the championship.

When Thompson is back next season, and Curry with very high confidence due to the big contract he got, I'm sure they'll be a tough team to beat.
This is a scenario that I don't know if will happen, but I think he fits a good team, so let's hope he'll get one.

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August 19, 2021, 02:02:16 PM
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I just hope that KAT will be traded to another team because his career will just go to waste if he stays there unless the Wolves will get another superstar that will help him then he might stay.

Put KAT in GSW and suddenly GSW will become one of the favorites to win the championship.

When Thompson is back next season, and Curry with very high confidence due to the big contract he got, I'm sure they'll be a tough team to beat.
This is a scenario that I don't know if will happen, but I think he fits a good team, so let's hope he'll get one.

Because of that statement, I search for an article about the warriors getting KAT, and this is what I found.

The Blockbuster Trade Idea: Warriors Can Land Karl-Anthony Towns For Four Players And Four Draft Picks

He is a high paid player so the Wolves would demand a lot of players in return.
If GSW is willing to gamble with that, they'll improve as a team but the health of Thompson is still vital as GSW needs the splash brothers.

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