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October 25, 2022, 11:10:36 AM
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I could care less who took the shot. I'm more into the manner how it was taken. Anyone with good awareness would run down the clock before taking it. Doing so would also give the opponent as little time as possible to make their own play. That's not how "superstars" are in my book. He's supposed to be the first to know being the floor general.

If that shot was made, then he will be a hero of the night, right? Even though it's considered a bad play of the night, what if the other way around happened? With lots of critics about him, even if he didn't attempt to make that shot, if the Lakers will lose, he's still blamed for that loss.
Just make the right play. It's great bonus if it went in. Tough luck if it didn't. No blame game as long as the right play is executed.

It doesn't matter if it went in or not just like I don't really care who took that shot.

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I don't consider that bad play for him as truly bad because it means he still has the confidence to take that clutch shot that totally almost not present in him last season because of too much pressure from the critics. It's hard to play with all eyes looking at him.
18 seconds left to set up a shot! 12 second difference between game clock and shot clock - how is that not a bad play?

Two of their best players are taking it slow and way behind the arc because they are probably thinking their point guard would run the clock. It's as if nobody expected him to do it that early. How is that not a bad play?

Confidence in taking a shot doesn't erase the fact it's a bad play.

What the heck! You are not really getting the point here and just focus on that Westbrick brick shot.

Did you even look at those other wrong plays prior to that 18 seconds left? Start at the last 2 minutes of the 4th Quarter and see for yourself how the hell happened that the Lakers only lead by 1 after being ahead by 9 points in the last 2 minutes.

The Lakers lose that game not just because Westbricks failed a shot with 18 seconds left remaining. You are too focused on Westbrook or I think you didn't watched that game and just go with the flow with the Westbrick comment that focuses on that 18 seconds left.

They all fail with that its just they are putting all the blame to Westbrook so that they can save their asses on shame or fans blame. What Westbrook did is just another failure contribution to their team so if they lose in that game all of them should be blame. And if they don't improve and always make their team controversial due to this losses then this will be another worse season to them also this could ruin Lebron's record.

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October 25, 2022, 11:13:31 AM
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That was a rough landing there but JC was really get that block from behind way too clean. Well, can't say it was just a lucky thing but who knows? JC has more minutes now compared the last season and I think it befits on him. For Zion, I think his minutes will be restricted considering his last game with Jazz is somewhat worrisome.
That was an incredible block made by JC and unlucky for Zion his landing would probably have hurt him a lot. Too bad again for Zion, he's really prone to injury.
He's got that hip injury that would make his worth low again and not just bad for him but also for the team. The team has waited for him for this season and very likely that he may be in the same situation of waiting again. A lot of money invested on him but if he's getting injury and prone to it, his value will be lower after his contract and much likely that only few teams would take him or worse, he'll be waived.

There is a zero percent chance that Zion gets waived. This injury was due to a hard foul that he had no control of and it was a bad landing. Meaning he’s probably in some pain and will have a hell of a bruise but he’ll be as good as new in a week. A shame the Pelicans have a nationally televised game tomorrow on TNT. I know Zion would’ve wanted to go crazy on TV to let everyone know he’s back. Maybe he’ll play through the pain but I doubt the Pelican staff will take any chances.

To be fair, there was no hard foul, it was a clean block from behind. Jordan Clarkson really timed Zion's jump and eventually caught all ball but unfortunately, he fell very hard, back first and he is on pain in the floor.

Yes, the Pels shouldn't allow Zion to play, just take a couple of breaks and let the back heal in time. It's just the start and we don't like to see him sideline again because of injuries.

Still early from this season so better to sideline him and rest for this one, not that much to affect since they've got a lot of games
to bounce back, they need to play wise with Zion this time.

Fans will not appreciate if they will see Zion's got a serious injury again and be bench for the rest of the season, it's best to keep him
in his best shape, the winning chance is good with him and Ingram playing alongside with Jonas and CJ.
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October 25, 2022, 12:22:53 PM
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Fans will not appreciate if they will see Zion's got a serious injury again and be bench for the rest of the season, it's best to keep him
in his best shape, the winning chance is good with him and Ingram playing alongside with Jonas and CJ.


Zion's performance was so amazing and he was doing fine contributing to the team as expected. But this injury keep haunting him even though he was just came back from long absence. I hope they can still make it to the playoffs because these guys has been down the road since Zion was not playing.

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October 25, 2022, 12:42:04 PM
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Fans will not appreciate if they will see Zion's got a serious injury again and be bench for the rest of the season, it's best to keep him
in his best shape, the winning chance is good with him and Ingram playing alongside with Jonas and CJ.


Zion's performance was so amazing and he was doing fine contributing to the team as expected. But this injury keep haunting him even though he was just came back from long absence. I hope they can still make it to the playoffs because these guys has been down the road since Zion was not playing.

I think the injury is not so serious, he might be out in few games but he will still come back, the good thing is that Pelicans had a good start already and hopefully they will continue winning. I think they also need how to learn to manage the minutes of Zion, better keep him for playoffs that making him play hard in the regular season.

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October 25, 2022, 01:22:11 PM
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Jalen Green vs Jordan Clarkson, the Filipino superstars played and Jalen Green won the battle stopping the win streak of the Jazz. I can see that Jalen Green is having a great season so far, his stats are already a stats of superstar, hopefully, he can always be consistent so he has a chance of being a good candidate for regular season MVP.

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October 25, 2022, 01:41:50 PM
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I am not overreacting to him, he made 49 points in that game and that should be it. How often do we see players make that much score when they're not in a superteam unlike the other teams in the NBA? The boy is improving his threes and if it keeps on happening like that, for sure that there's something that will change the fate of his team. Well, we can say about such defense and offense in terms of words but when you're inside in the actual words, things will change and escalate quickly.

I don't really understand why there's this people who wanted to see a player who will always fits their visions, if it doesn't fit, they will say that he is overrated. We should not forget that players have their own respective strengths and weaknesses and that is why they are given that specific role. For Ja Morant, he is still young and we will see a lot more improvements on his side in the coming seasons. It's already a good thing that he can carry his team on his own way he is, at his age, it's not an easy feat to do. I think we should praise him rather than discrediting him on what he did, he deserved it, really.
It's okay, all of us have different tastes for players per se. We may like him and appreciates his performances but some may think that it's not enough and he's got to work harder and show the best of himself and that's why they're looking for more of him. Or, they just don't really like him because of what he has said in the past that seems he's too boastful and proud of himself. Well today, Memphis, they've won against the Nets. One of the strongest teams that we consider for this season and the score is a lot, 134 ~ 124.

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October 25, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
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I could care less who took the shot. I'm more into the manner how it was taken. Anyone with good awareness would run down the clock before taking it. Doing so would also give the opponent as little time as possible to make their own play. That's not how "superstars" are in my book. He's supposed to be the first to know being the floor general.

If that shot was made, then he will be a hero of the night, right? Even though it's considered a bad play of the night, what if the other way around happened? With lots of critics about him, even if he didn't attempt to make that shot, if the Lakers will lose, he's still blamed for that loss.
Just make the right play. It's great bonus if it went in. Tough luck if it didn't. No blame game as long as the right play is executed.

It doesn't matter if it went in or not just like I don't really care who took that shot.

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I don't consider that bad play for him as truly bad because it means he still has the confidence to take that clutch shot that totally almost not present in him last season because of too much pressure from the critics. It's hard to play with all eyes looking at him.
18 seconds left to set up a shot! 12 second difference between game clock and shot clock - how is that not a bad play?

Two of their best players are taking it slow and way behind the arc because they are probably thinking their point guard would run the clock. It's as if nobody expected him to do it that early. How is that not a bad play?

Confidence in taking a shot doesn't erase the fact it's a bad play.

What the heck! You are not really getting the point here and just focus on that Westbrick brick shot.

Did you even look at those other wrong plays prior to that 18 seconds left? Start at the last 2 minutes of the 4th Quarter and see for yourself how the hell happened that the Lakers only lead by 1 after being ahead by 9 points in the last 2 minutes.

The Lakers lose that game not just because Westbricks failed a shot with 18 seconds left remaining. You are too focused on Westbrook or I think you didn't watched that game and just go with the flow with the Westbrick comment that focuses on that 18 seconds left.
I've been focus on that bad play or instance from the very beginning. You butt in with claims like things would have been different if it went in or I've been focusing on Westbrook even though I already said I don't care who took the shot. I've stated clearly the problem that I saw without minding the things that happened prior to that play.

The whole point is they were still in control of the game at that point with a one-point lead and a lot of time on their hand. The chances of grinding out an ugly win and their first for the season is higher had they use the time they had to make the right or better play.

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October 25, 2022, 01:54:11 PM
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The Brooklyn Nets lost against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Desmond Bane is the guy who did most of the damage, especially in the 2nd half where he made 32 points while Ja Morant never stops to amaze his fans with 38 points and 4/6 from downtown.
He's doing better in shooting threes than the previous year. Defenders cannot just leave him alone behind the arc.
I am really sad for Ben Simmons, I think the officials are targeting him. The 5th foul was questionable already and he just spent 1 minute in the game then the 6th foul happened which made Coach Nash furious.  Grin
Good sportsmanship from Kyrie after the game.


The Brooklyn Nets haven't started well into the league this year, either. To be honest Memphis is a good team, Ja Morant and Bane's performance was pretty good. I think it's one of the best playing teams of the year. But the Brooklyn Nets also have a pretty good roster. Despite this, I think it's a bit sad that they are losing the match, actually Irving and Durant are playing very well, but these performances are not enough to win the match Smiley

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October 25, 2022, 02:10:22 PM
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The Brooklyn Nets lost against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Desmond Bane is the guy who did most of the damage, especially in the 2nd half where he made 32 points while Ja Morant never stops to amaze his fans with 38 points and 4/6 from downtown.
He's doing better in shooting threes than the previous year. Defenders cannot just leave him alone behind the arc.
I am really sad for Ben Simmons, I think the officials are targeting him. The 5th foul was questionable already and he just spent 1 minute in the game then the 6th foul happened which made Coach Nash furious.  Grin
Good sportsmanship from Kyrie after the game.


The Brooklyn Nets haven't started well into the league this year, either. To be honest Memphis is a good team, Ja Morant and Bane's performance was pretty good. I think it's one of the best playing teams of the year. But the Brooklyn Nets also have a pretty good roster. Despite this, I think it's a bit sad that they are losing the match, actually Irving and Durant are playing very well, but these performances are not enough to win the match Smiley

Both stars are really performing but the chemistries around still not reflecting for the entire squad,

Even Kyrie and KD will score a lot if the defense and the support for other role players to help ain't their Nets will continue to lose
games. They need to work things out and create additional game play not just to rely on the stars but more on ball movement
and how they will execute the play.
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October 25, 2022, 02:45:45 PM
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The Brooklyn Nets lost against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Desmond Bane is the guy who did most of the damage, especially in the 2nd half where he made 32 points while Ja Morant never stops to amaze his fans with 38 points and 4/6 from downtown.
He's doing better in shooting threes than the previous year. Defenders cannot just leave him alone behind the arc.
I am really sad for Ben Simmons, I think the officials are targeting him. The 5th foul was questionable already and he just spent 1 minute in the game then the 6th foul happened which made Coach Nash furious.  Grin
Good sportsmanship from Kyrie after the game.


The Brooklyn Nets haven't started well into the league this year, either. To be honest Memphis is a good team, Ja Morant and Bane's performance was pretty good. I think it's one of the best playing teams of the year. But the Brooklyn Nets also have a pretty good roster. Despite this, I think it's a bit sad that they are losing the match, actually Irving and Durant are playing very well, but these performances are not enough to win the match Smiley

Both stars are really performing but the chemistries around still not reflecting for the entire squad,

Even Kyrie and KD will score a lot if the defense and the support for other role players to help ain't their Nets will continue to lose
games. They need to work things out and create additional game play not just to rely on the stars but more on ball movement
and how they will execute the play.
Indeed they need that!
I was never a Kyrie hater even if his decisions are kind of intriguing. i.e. Flat earth, no vaccine and so on.
But, I watch the film twice just to look at what is missing with the Nets team. It's not chemistry, it's the second team that they need.
Whenever KD needs a rest, everything will be a wack.
No chemistry, Kyrie will do everything he wants with no help and their offense is all weak.
I mean, let's face it they are not a defensive team, not zero, but less defensive than other low seed teams.
Offense is their power, better make a 2nd team that will patch things up whenever KD is benched.

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October 25, 2022, 04:52:38 PM
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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…

What a game for Dame Lillard hitting that Dame time 3 to take the lead.
While the Lakers continue to struggle offensively.
I have to agree that the Lakers is not really playing bad defensively, they just can't shoot. They might be under heavy pressure now and they can't shake off the bad start and continue missing shots, particularly the 3pt fg.
The next 7 opponent for the Lakers are also a tough teams. If they can't find a way to adjust their game and start winning, I'm afraid they'll start with 0-10.

Very disappointing loss of the Lakers, they were up but they allow the Blazers to rally and beat them. Again, very bad performance by Westbrook, he only manage to score 10 points from a very poor shooting, with his consistent performance, let us not anymore expect the Lakers will even reach the playoffs.

Very disappointing loss to them and instead they do more better on their next game they became worst. Instead they motivate their players to be more hungry to win they play Russ blame card again for sure we cannot see any good competition coming with this team since at this very early stage of season they are destroying their chemistry that's why we see worse performance as a result.

Maybe they need to start trading their players because for keeping them maybe they will not reach again on playoffs.

Well, about that there's a rumor nowadays that the Lakers is interested to resume the trade talks to get Jordan Clarkson and 2 other players in-exchange for Westbrook, and I think that even if that rumor will become a reality, I don't think that the Utah Jazz will be interested anymore to join that conversation. It's true that they need at least 1 superstar in the team to lead them but I don't think Westbrook fits what they needed especially now that the whole league sees the current situation of the Lakers.

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October 25, 2022, 04:59:34 PM
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Now with regards to the Pelicans, I said that they are the "dark horse" of the league right now and that is the team to watch out in my opinion. Will they reach the playoffs? Yes, they will. How high they can get in the playoffs? I think they can go as high as Conference Semi-Finals only. They are too young, and their roster is too inexperienced when it comes to the playoffs, and we know how experience affects the performance of the team during the playoffs. They are a promising team yes but to win the title is too exaggerated at least for me but I will be surprised if they might take it all and be the WCF champions.

They'll be very tough to beat this season, they have a good defense and they have great players that could penetrate inside. Zion, Ingram, and Jonas V., these guys are hard to stop, plus they also have some shooters and great defenders, so it's not gonna be easy. Let us not forget that the best team last season which was the Suns were having a hard time beating a zion less Pelicans, now that they are complete, things will be different.

Great start so far, that's because Zion is healthy, hopefully nothing serious will happen to him as we will know what would happen if Zion will be injured. Look how confident the Pelicans are, they know they have a reliable superstars that are willing to carry the team, so they are not afraid to shoot the ball and be aggressive to grab rebounds.

overall, this team is more good on defense, and that's very important especially in the playoffs.

Yes, so far so good and they have a 2-1 standing as of now because the Jazz defeated them today, but the score isn't that much far because it was just a point shy and Zion made 25 points. Not that bad on their first loss of this season. I'm seeing a great chemistry in their team because Zion's return on the court lifted the morale of teammates that is why we can see them so confident in the court.

Not bad for the Pelicans, they really pushed the game hard and not to let the Jazz win the game in an easy competition,

Too bad Both Zion and Ingram were unable to complete the game due to injuries, that hard hit of Zion worries the NOP so they need to
bench him and assess his condition, same with Ingram. He just played for 11 mins but he score 10 points. What more if he completed
the game, lucky escape for the Jazz.

I hope their injuries is not that serious because that would really place the team in dangerous spot as two of their highly reliable players are now injured, Zion sustained a hip contusion while Ingram had a head injury. As of now, there's no news yet on their whereabouts, supposedly there's already an announcement because they got a game later against the Dallas Mavericks.

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October 25, 2022, 06:22:53 PM
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Both stars are really performing but the chemistries around still not reflecting for the entire squad,

Even Kyrie and KD will score a lot if the defense and the support for other role players to help ain't their Nets will continue to lose
games. They need to work things out and create additional game play not just to rely on the stars but more on ball movement
and how they will execute the play.
I mean these days it's not that common to build a squad full of great role players, because even role players are getting good salaries so it's not easy to do that, plus superstars are getting so much money that you can't max 3 superstars easily, it would be basically the whole salary cap and maybe then some depending on their situation (mvp, fmvp etc etc changes it).

This means that we are talking about getting maybe 2 of them, and usually the third one is not that good and nobody wants them type of situation. That's why I believe that we won't see 2 or 3 superstars filled with amazing role players for a while, not until salary cap is growing again.

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October 25, 2022, 06:29:48 PM
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There is a zero percent chance that Zion gets waived. This injury was due to a hard foul that he had no control of and it was a bad landing. Meaning he’s probably in some pain and will have a hell of a bruise but he’ll be as good as new in a week. A shame the Pelicans have a nationally televised game tomorrow on TNT. I know Zion would’ve wanted to go crazy on TV to let everyone know he’s back. Maybe he’ll play through the pain but I doubt the Pelican staff will take any chances.
I've tried to look for some updates about him if there's a confirmation whether he's going to play or not. But still haven't found any and only a few hours ago that an article that he's questionable whether he'll play later.

Bad luck and unfortunate. The Pelicans are now slowly getting some noise because they are now complete but suddenly the injury now happened again for Zion.

Too bad that we can't see completely the potential of this team. They are no doubt one of the potential teams if they will be healthy all season.

Any news for his expected timeline for return?
I'm seeing the whole potential of the team but because of the situation and circumstances, that's not making us allowed to see it. Well, if it's just going to be a week of healing for Zion and he's good again, that's good for him and for the Pelicans.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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October 25, 2022, 08:02:00 PM
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Jalen Green vs Jordan Clarkson, the Filipino superstars played and Jalen Green won the battle stopping the win streak of the Jazz. I can see that Jalen Green is having a great season so far, his stats are already a stats of superstar, hopefully, he can always be consistent so he has a chance of being a good candidate for regular season MVP.

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Probably should have thrown a few dollars down on the Chicago Bulls versus the Boston Celtics. The Bulls are coming off a pretty embarrassing loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers and while I certainly don’t think this team is destined to win any championships, they’re still a pretty good ball club. (Spread was +5.5 for them).

Cleveland Cavaliers has a decent line-up now with Donovan Mitchell running their offense. Pretty good starting line-up from 1 to 5 and they have decent bench players too. It all depends now on chemistry and see if they can match against last season's top teams.

The Cleveland Cavs are looking good upon the acquisition of Mitchell this season. It also seems like Mitchell is fits with the current Cavs roster as he puts up huge points every game as ge averaged 30+ pts/game. While the Jazz were also looking good so far without him and Gobert. Let's just see who wins the trade with these teams involving Mitchell and Gobert.

One of the notable team early this season is the Portland trailblazers. Lillard is having a very good start of the season.

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Honestly did not expected Lakers to start this bad. I get the warriors loss, but this latest Portland loss is a big bells are ringing type of deal. They were not ready for the season? Did they not really worked hard on figuring out how they could get better?

It's obvious that they were bad last year, you can't just roll the dice again and hope for a better result, they needed to change some things, even if not in the roster (which they have a bit) but also with the plays. Look at Spurs, they have one of the worst teams in the league and yet they started 2-1, one of the wins coming from Sixers. That's the difference between a good coach and a bad coach.

I mean what was really expected.  They haven't changed from last year.  They lack a true point guard.  I know you have lebron but you need someone that can set the table for everyone including Bron.  And their bench depth is terrible.  I expect vet injuries which will only deepen the losses.  This team is looking at easily under .500 and missing the playoffs again.  It will be the lebron scoring title and passing Kareem this year and that's about it.

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October 25, 2022, 09:52:10 PM
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They all fail with that its just they are putting all the blame to Westbrook so that they can save their asses on shame or fans blame. What Westbrook did is just another failure contribution to their team so if they lose in that game all of them should be blame. And if they don't improve and always make their team controversial due to this losses then this will be another worse season to them also this could ruin Lebron's record.

Maybe the inexperience of the head coach is also affecting the current performance of the Lakers. Although I agree that all Lakers players are to blame for such a poor start to the season, not only Westbrick. However, there is no surprise that fans and haters focus their attention specifically on Westbrook's failures. This Brick has an average field goal percentage of 27% in three games, and now his performance looks a lot worse compared to last season.

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October 25, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
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Honestly did not expected Lakers to start this bad. I get the warriors loss, but this latest Portland loss is a big bells are ringing type of deal. They were not ready for the season? Did they not really worked hard on figuring out how they could get better?

It's obvious that they were bad last year, you can't just roll the dice again and hope for a better result, they needed to change some things, even if not in the roster (which they have a bit) but also with the plays. Look at Spurs, they have one of the worst teams in the league and yet they started 2-1, one of the wins coming from Sixers. That's the difference between a good coach and a bad coach.

I mean what was really expected.  They haven't changed from last year.  They lack a true point guard.  I know you have lebron but you need someone that can set the table for everyone including Bron.  And their bench depth is terrible.  I expect vet injuries which will only deepen the losses.  This team is looking at easily under .500 and missing the playoffs again.  It will be the lebron scoring title and passing Kareem this year and that's about it.

I would agree though, I mean the Westbrook is still with the Lakers and so the problem is still there. They got some players, but it is just some average point guard like Pat. Lebron is on the way to past Kareem all time high scoring and maybe some records as well.

The whole management of the Lakers from the front office to the players should took the blame here. It's just bad chemistry and even if they have Lebron and AD, they can't find the success they have since the bubble.

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Probably should have thrown a few dollars down on the Chicago Bulls versus the Boston Celtics. The Bulls are coming off a pretty embarrassing loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers and while I certainly don’t think this team is destined to win any championships, they’re still a pretty good ball club. (Spread was +5.5 for them).

But it would've been easier if we were to bet on the Boston Celtics since they started strong early beating Miami Heat and the Philadelphia 76ers. This is unexpected as many thought this is free money for the Celtics bettors. What an odd result, the unbeaten and favored by the odds as the strongest team in the NBA just lost to a team embarrassed in their last game.   

Cleveland Cavaliers has a decent line-up now with Donovan Mitchell running their offense. Pretty good starting line-up from 1 to 5 and they have decent bench players too. It all depends now on chemistry and see if they can match against last season's top teams.

It's not like the Celtics are amazing. They are good but so are the Chicago Bulls.  The Chicago Bulls may not be a championship caliber squad, but few teams are.  They are right there though, and if they could some how pull off a trade for a mega-star, they've got a really attractive future.  That's what sucks though, really solid team but no mega-star (lavine nor DeRozan are mega-stars) you've just got no shot.

Regardless, coming off that loss I just had a feeling for them.

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