[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[kkurtmann]

Or, we could discuss the trezor. I like the new deal, but I already have 3

[Erdogan]

Or, we could discuss the trezor. I like the new deal, but I already have 3

Have they said for how long the offer will be up?

[klondike_bar]

It's unfortunate that they called it account, because it connotes with bank account.... but, a bank account is really a bank deposit account. Account really means some numbers that you track, and deposit means that you have given your money away. So it is not really bad to call it an account (as in BIP-0032). It is a way to arrange your numbers.

Gives us a splendid pretext to argue what an account really is, and what a deposit really is.

de·pos·it
verb: deposit; 3rd person present: deposits; past tense: deposited; past participle: deposited; gerund or present participle: depositing
1.
put or set down (something or someone) in a specific place, typically unceremoniously.
2.
store or entrust with someone for safekeeping.

[kkurtmann]

Or, we could discuss the trezor. I like the new deal, but I already have 3

Have they said for how long the offer will be up?

Go back one page.

[Erdogan]

Or, we could discuss the trezor. I like the new deal, but I already have 3

Have they said for how long the offer will be up?

Go back one page.

Until monday.

[molecular]

Wait, if my 24 word seed can bring back my coins, doesn't that mean my private keys are held somewhere?

That's why it's called a seed and not a passphrase. Your keys come from the seed and your seed can clone them if they are lost.

How does it know how to clone it?

What if I make 4 other accounts on my trezor.

I don't know what you mean by account. The Trezor doesn't contain accounts. It contains a wallet filled with addresses. The website has your account. The Trezor can only load one wallet at a time
If you lose your Trezor you will want to clone the wallet from the seed so you at least get your bitcoins back. You have to do that yourself.

There's is a "account" moniker in the key derivation scheme.

All accounts are derived from the seed.

Interesting choice of monikers. Very bank. Cannotes third party security. Most clients use the term wallet. Why did you choose account?

Other coins, for instance, Monero, are also using the term "account" instead of "wallet", for various practical reasons.

not "also", bip44 isn't using 'account' instead of 'wallet':

BIP:     BIP-0044
Title:   Multi-Account Hierarchy for Deterministic Wallets

just saying... in bip44 terminology, a wallet consists of accounts

And that's what it is: an 'accounting' feature: from the outside you can't tell which account an address belongs to, but internally you can use accounts to seperate funds.

I think it's good. Enables to keep funds separate for privacy enhancement (although I prefer to use electrums address-based coin control feature)

It's unfortunate that they called it account, because it connotes with bank account.... but, a bank account is really a bank deposit account. Account really means some numbers that you track, and deposit means that you have given your money away. So it is not really bad to call it an account (as in BIP-0032). It is a way to arrange your numbers.

Gives us a splendid pretext to argue what an account really is, and what a deposit really is.

I think 'account' is a good choice of term. Doesn't associate with banking as much as with bookkeeping (accounting) in my mind. The term is more general than 'bank account'.

Someone mentioned above people might mix up a bip44 account with an account at some web-site or other service. I think that risk is low.

[efiin]

Christmas sale by any chance?  I want to get a few of these around 3-5 but what are the benefits of this instead of a paper wallet?

[molecular]

Christmas sale by any chance?  I want to get a few of these around 3-5 but what are the benefits of this instead of a paper wallet?

you can fearlessly and easily spend from it using an unsecure computer.

[stick]

Christmas sale by any chance?  I want to get a few of these around 3-5 but what are the benefits of this instead of a paper wallet?

You are lucky. There is a "Buy 2 Get One for Free" offer right now on https://buytrezor.com/

[Zurtz]

I'm searching 2 people to buy a Trezor. Thanks

[pissedoff]

Christmas sale by any chance?   I want to get a few of these around 3-5 but what are the benefits of this instead of a paper wallet?

You are lucky. There is a "Buy 2 Get One for Free" offer right now on https://buytrezor.com/

Is this automatically done or do you have to use a code or something? This is only available to be bought in Bitcoin right?

[Gleb Goodston]

Christmas sale by any chance?   I want to get a few of these around 3-5 but what are the benefits of this instead of a paper wallet?

You are lucky. There is a "Buy 2 Get One for Free" offer right now on https://buytrezor.com/

Is this automatically done or do you have to use a code or something? This is only available to be bought in Bitcoin right?

Automatically if you order 2. What I'm wondering is what if you order 4?

[stick]

Automatically if you order 2. What I'm wondering is what if you order 4?

No. Actually you need to order the "3 for 2" product. If you order it twice, you'll get 6 TREZORs for the price of 4.

[Watsky]

Automatically if you order 2. What I'm wondering is what if you order 4?

No. Actually you need to order the "3 for 2" product. If you order it twice, you'll get 6 TREZORs for the price of 4.

How do you order it? there's a little button next to the colour but how do I know if I've selected it or not?

[mmortal03]

It's unfortunate that they called it account, because it connotes with bank account.... but, a bank account is really a bank deposit account. Account really means some numbers that you track, and deposit means that you have given your money away. So it is not really bad to call it an account (as in BIP-0032). It is a way to arrange your numbers.

Gives us a splendid pretext to argue what an account really is, and what a deposit really is.

Technically, your bitcoins reside on the blockchain, so having an "account" on the blockchain makes perfect sense. You have an account number there (your public address), and the only thing that you actually hold locally is your private key (and, possibly a full copy of the blockchain, if you are maintaining a copy locally, but this isn't a necessity to maintain an account).

[Coiner.de]

How do you order it? there's a little button next to the colour but how do I know if I've selected it or not?

There is a green border around it.

Or just press "Buy now". You get a list of products and are able to change quantities then.
The product you want is "TREZOR 3for2 (3 pcs)".

[lyth0s]

If anyone is buying a 2 for 3 deal and would have an extra one, please PM me if you'd like to sell it at a discounted rated or if you just feeling super generous and would like to help me get my hands on one.

I'd definitely be VERY grateful! --I'm a poor student and it's just really hard for me to fork out that many bitcoins right now.

[bigasic]

On the first page, it states that we will be able to copy the private keys only once, during set up. Is that possible? I just set mine up and never saw an option to do that.

[stick]

On the first page, it states that we will be able to copy the private keys only once, during set up. Is that possible? I just set mine up and never saw an option to do that.

You were shown 24 words that you were supposed to write them down. These ARE the private keys.

[bigasic]

ahh, okay, yes, I did that. So, what happens if you guys decide to close your doors? your site goes offline for some reason, how would i get my coins back?