[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[binford]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

[molecular]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

I've been using electrum development version from git for about half a year now with trezor. I only once ran into a serious issue and that has been fixed a long time ago.

[binford]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. ...

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

I've been using electrum development version from git for about half a year now with trezor. I only once ran into a serious issue and that has been fixed a long time ago.

on mac os it hangs when creating new wallet, passphrase with diacritic derives different keys than mytrezor.com just to mention two issues I've seen in the github issue list. both might be resolved in 2.0.1 but both of them are also kind of serious : )

[mmortal03]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

Yes, FYI, here's the announcement thread for everyone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973768.0

[chrisrico]

Is the public key protected by PIN or confirmation preventing rogue websites from stealing it? Having your public key leaked would link all your transactions for the life of the seed.

This is actually a good point in the context of Trezor Bridge. It's not an issue with the extension because you have to manually allow it to run on every website that tries to use it. With Bridge though, it's a tiny web server that is potentially always running on your computer, allowing anyone to connect. Perhaps Trezor Bridge should require the PIN to be entered before a new connection can be made?

[lyth0s]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

I've been using electrum development version from git for about half a year now with trezor. I only once ran into a serious issue and that has been fixed a long time ago.

I've been using Electrum with my trezor and have had no problems over the past few days. I can tell you that when creating a new account on your trezor via electrum that it requires 2 confirmations on the first payment address before it creates the extra public addresses (I'm not sure why it has to do this) but that really hasn't been an issue.

Molecular I'll send those wallet developers a message about adding trezor to their wallets. But out of curiosity since it's your product couldn't you just make a pull request for the wallets, implement it yourself and serve it back to them on a silver platter? I know that means extra programming for you guys but it seems if the trezor is useable on more and more platforms that it would eventually increase your sales as well as keeping your customers very happy

[spin]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

I've been using electrum development version from git for about half a year now with trezor. I only once ran into a serious issue and that has been fixed a long time ago.

I've been using Electrum with my trezor and have had no problems over the past few days. I can tell you that when creating a new account on your trezor via electrum that it requires 2 confirmations on the first payment address before it creates the extra public addresses (I'm not sure why it has to do this) but that really hasn't been an issue.

Molecular I'll send those wallet developers a message about adding trezor to their wallets. But out of curiosity since it's your product couldn't you just make a pull request for the wallets, implement it yourself and serve it back to them on a silver platter? I know that means extra programming for you guys but it seems if the trezor is useable on more and more platforms that it would eventually increase your sales as well as keeping your customers very happy

I'm looking for something to replace mytrezor.com and installed electrum.  However when I installed it (and the trezor python module), it asked for my trezor seed. I understand this has the private seed.  This would mean I'm revealing the private keys to electrum.  I simply want a watch-only style wallet on my pc, but that uses trezor to sign tx.

Can electrum do this?  Any other wallets that do this?

[jackbox]

I'm looking for something to replace mytrezor.com and installed electrum.  However when I installed it (and the trezor python module), it asked for my trezor seed. I understand this has the private seed.  This would mean I'm revealing the private keys to electrum.  I simply want a watch-only style wallet on my pc, but that uses trezor to sign tx.

Can electrum do this?  Any other wallets that do this?

It asked for your seed because you chose "restore wallet" instead of "new wallet." Restore is to get coins from lost or damaged Trezor which needs the seed. Choose new and it will connect to Trezor as you want. Or you can just cancel the restore without inputting seed, open the created wallet file and it will connect to Trezor to finish installing that wallet. It does work without inputting the seed, which you don't want to do obviously.

[spin]

I'm looking for something to replace mytrezor.com and installed electrum.  However when I installed it (and the trezor python module), it asked for my trezor seed. I understand this has the private seed.  This would mean I'm revealing the private keys to electrum.  I simply want a watch-only style wallet on my pc, but that uses trezor to sign tx.

Can electrum do this?  Any other wallets that do this?

It asked for your seed because you chose "restore wallet" instead of "new wallet." Restore is to get coins from lost or damaged Trezor which needs the seed. Choose new and it will connect to Trezor as you want. Or you can just cancel the restore without inputting seed, open the created wallet file and it will connect to Trezor to finish installing that wallet. It does work without inputting the seed, which you don't want to do obviously.

Well restore wallet seemed most appropriate as the trezor has a wallet on (with funds on it).  I just want to confirm it's fine to go ahead as you specify given that I already have funds on the trezor wallet.

[jackbox]

I'm looking for something to replace mytrezor.com and installed electrum.  However when I installed it (and the trezor python module), it asked for my trezor seed. I understand this has the private seed.  This would mean I'm revealing the private keys to electrum.  I simply want a watch-only style wallet on my pc, but that uses trezor to sign tx.

Can electrum do this?  Any other wallets that do this?

It asked for your seed because you chose "restore wallet" instead of "new wallet." Restore is to get coins from lost or damaged Trezor which needs the seed. Choose new and it will connect to Trezor as you want. Or you can just cancel the restore without inputting seed, open the created wallet file and it will connect to Trezor to finish installing that wallet. It does work without inputting the seed, which you don't want to do obviously.

Well restore wallet seemed most appropriate as the trezor has a wallet on (with funds on it).  I just want to confirm it's fine to go ahead as you specify given that I already have funds on the trezor wallet.

Yes, no problem. It does not write the seed to the Trezor. Just gets the master public key to generate addresses to get balances.

[N[e]wBie]

any guide on how to set up a 'dummy' wallet, from a trezor that already has a non-PW protected wallet?

also, electrum 2.0.2 doesnt seem to have an option for a hardware wallet any longer, how to do this? Thanks

[Mickeyb]

Hey devs, is the trezor support for Darkcoin out? If not when can we expect it?

Thanks

[speedy1987]

Hi

I want to buy Trezor. Becouse it´s awesome.
It only stores BTC? (is here any HW wallet for altcoin?)

[guitarplinker]

Hi

I want to buy Trezor. Becouse it´s awesome.
It only stores BTC? (is here any HW wallet for altcoin?)

The Trezor is capable of storing altcoin wallets if I remember correctly, but it just needs to be supported by altcoins devs for it to function. I don't think many altcoins support the Trezor, if any do at all though.

[jackbox]

Hi

I want to buy Trezor. Becouse it´s awesome.
It only stores BTC? (is here any HW wallet for altcoin?)

The Trezor is capable of storing altcoin wallets if I remember correctly, but it just needs to be supported by altcoins devs for it to function. I don't think many altcoins support the Trezor, if any do at all though.

In the Trezor log files it shows the coins it supports already. Just need developers to create wallets for them.

"coins"
{"address_type":"0","address_type_p2sh":"5","coin_name":"Bitcoin","coin_shortcut":"BTC","maxfee_kb":"10000"}
{"address_type":"111","address_type_p2sh":"196","coin_name":"Testnet","coin_shortcut":"TEST","maxfee_kb":"10000000"}
{"address_type":"52","address_type_p2sh":"5","coin_name":"Namecoin","coin_shortcut":"NMC","maxfee_kb":"10000000"}
{"address_type":"48","address_type_p2sh":"5","coin_name":"Litecoin","coin_shortcut":"LTC","maxfee_kb":"10000000"}
{"address_type":"30","address_type_p2sh":"22","coin_name":"Dogecoin","coin_shortcut":"DOGE","maxfee_kb":"100000000"}

[molecular]

So I tried the Trezor with the Electrum 2.0 wallet today and it worked like a charm. Glad to see another wallet service that has implemented the Trezor successfully. I'd like to see if you guys could make any progress with getting Mycelium or Wallet32 to implement it next

curb your enthusiasm : ) there are a few issues if you play with electrum long enough. p.ex. it hangs when creating new wallet (like one with password, one without password), wait at least the bugfix release 2.0.1 is out. but yes, it looks very good and they did great job.

I've been using electrum development version from git for about half a year now with trezor. I only once ran into a serious issue and that has been fixed a long time ago.

I've been using Electrum with my trezor and have had no problems over the past few days. I can tell you that when creating a new account on your trezor via electrum that it requires 2 confirmations on the first payment address before it creates the extra public addresses (I'm not sure why it has to do this) but that really hasn't been an issue.

Molecular I'll send those wallet developers a message about adding trezor to their wallets. But out of curiosity since it's your product couldn't you just make a pull request for the wallets, implement it yourself and serve it back to them on a silver platter? I know that means extra programming for you guys but it seems if the trezor is useable on more and more platforms that it would eventually increase your sales as well as keeping your customers very happy

I'm sorry if I came across as being afiliated with satoshilabs. I'm not. I'm just a fan of trezor.

I was simply reiterating what satoshilabs has said before on the issue and I can see their point. They are not wallet software developers. They are offering libraries for easy integration, but the integration itself is most efficiently done by the wallet developers. Also the incentive should be there: it makes the wallet more valuable.

Thanks for dropping mycelium (I think they have trezor integration on the list, but doesn't hurt to let them know again) and wallet32 devs a line.

[lyth0s]

Good news! So I asked the mycelium team to implement trezor support for androids via an OTG cable and now they are working on it. There is already a version in bug testing with a full version to be released soon (I got extra info from a PM)

I would also like to request that Mycelium add support for the Trezor hardware wallets with the use of an On-the-Go cable. I believe the Trezor team has already put some code on GitHub as an example of how to incorporate it into multiple wallets. Thanks for your consideration.

Sure, no problem.
Watch out for a beta release soon

[arorts]

I keep getting this message "Timed out while waiting for the magic character" after trying to send out BTC with Electrum 2.0 that has Trezor Plugin. Yes, I did enter the right passhprase/PIN and fee amount.

 I didn't notice any server connectivity. It was showing as in sync and there didn't seem to be any apparent time out. It actually immediately popped after entering my PIN and all the inputs needed in the Send tab... In fact, changing the server and restarting didn't make any difference at all. If I tried to send again, it'd show either this:

"<class 'trezorlib.messages_pb2.PublicKey'>, expected (<class 'trezorlib.messages_pb2.Success'>,)"

Or this other error:

"Tag had invalid wire type"

Or this:

 "Unexpected end-group tag"

None minimally user friendly or at least a bit more explanatory.  

Using this plug-in my Bitcoin is stuck...  :-/

I'm a bit confused...Should I only use the latest Electrum 2.0 wallet that says that it has Trezor Support or do I also require to install the code from the Trezor github as well?? Any ideas to fix this?

Thanks

[molecular]

Good news! So I asked the mycelium team to implement trezor support for androids via an OTG cable and now they are working on it. There is already a version in bug testing with a full version to be released soon (I got extra info from a PM)

I would also like to request that Mycelium add support for the Trezor hardware wallets with the use of an On-the-Go cable. I believe the Trezor team has already put some code on GitHub as an example of how to incorporate it into multiple wallets. Thanks for your consideration.

Sure, no problem.
Watch out for a beta release soon

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[molecular]

I keep getting this message "Timed out while waiting for the magic character" after trying to send out BTC with Electrum 2.0 that has Trezor Plugin. Yes, I did enter the right passhprase/PIN and fee amount.

 I didn't notice any server connectivity. It was showing as in sync and there didn't seem to be any apparent time out. It actually immediately popped after entering my PIN and all the inputs needed in the Send tab... In fact, changing the server and restarting didn't make any difference at all. If I tried to send again, it'd show either this:

"<class 'trezorlib.messages_pb2.PublicKey'>, expected (<class 'trezorlib.messages_pb2.Success'>,)"

Or this other error:

"Tag had invalid wire type"

Or this:

 "Unexpected end-group tag"

None minimally user friendly or at least a bit more explanatory.  

Using this plug-in my Bitcoin is stuck...  :-/

I'm a bit confused...Should I only use the latest Electrum 2.0 wallet that says that it has Trezor Support or do I also require to install the code from the Trezor github as well?? Any ideas to fix this?

Thanks

just a hunch: this sounds like transport layer problems (USB). Does the trezor work in myTrezor? Maybe try different cable / hub / usb port ?