[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[600watt]

are you Using a passphrase?

If you Do a typo with your passphrase trezor will show an new account, which is - of course - zero.
it is case sensetive...

Thank you!!!  This was it.  I thought I was entering in the correct password. There is no error msg except a '0.00' balance so it got me all confused.

glad to hear your coins are safe 

[guitarplinker]

If you really want to, you can run your own MyTrezor website and use that if the main one is down.

Here's a link to the Github page for the MyTrezor site: https://github.com/trezor/webwallet

Thanks, but really we shouldn't have to go to such lengths ... we pay for a 'robust service' when we buy a Trezor.

I completely agree. There was a discussion on Reddit a few days ago about how often MyTrezor is down. Someone suggested that SatoshiLabs could implement www1./www2./www3. addresses for load balancing. That way, if one of the sites doesn't work, we'd still have two more to use.

I'm not sure how difficult or costly that would be to implement, but it would be a great feature.

[marcus_of_augustus]

are you Using a passphrase?

If you Do a typo with your passphrase trezor will show an new account, which is - of course - zero.
it is case sensetive...

Thank you!!!  This was it.  I thought I was entering in the correct password. There is no error msg except a '0.00' balance so it got me all confused.

There is no error message because it doesn't recognise a different password as an error. It just goes ahead and generates a different set of keys with the 'new' password as part of the seed.

If it did know your password (so that it could generate an error message) it would have to store it somewhere and that would be a less secure (and different) methodology.

[kkurtmann]

I was hoping this new firmware would allow us to label accounts instead of the "account#1... Etc".

[AussieHash]

I also updated the firmware but the balance was still zero!

I've done multiple firmware updates without problem, but you are alays warned to make sure you have a backup of the mnemonic prior to upgrading. Are seeing the same wallet addresses on the new firmware ? If you have no passphrase you should see the same addresses, and if you have entered the same passphrase again you should see the same HD tree. Do you have any old transactions in from phone wallet to Trezor accounts you can check ?

Edit : Must have been I page back or something....

[klokan]

I also updated the firmware but the balance was still zero!

I've done multiple firmware updates without problem, but you are alays warned to make sure you have a backup of the mnemonic prior to upgrading. Are seeing the same wallet addresses on the new firmware ? If you have no passphrase you should see the same addresses, and if you have entered the same passphrase again you should see the same HD tree. Do you have any old transactions in from phone wallet to Trezor accounts you can check ?

I think that this one is already resolved. (wrong passphrase was used)

But in general, if you plug in your Trezor and you don't see your transaction history and you see balance zero, there is nothing to worry about. The website is down/slow/whatever, but your coins are almost certainly secure. The only situation to worry about is when you see a transaction history with some new transaction you did not approve. (I've never saw someone report this)

[dillpicklechips]

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[DevonMiner]

I was hoping this new firmware would allow us to label accounts instead of the "account#1... Etc".

+1

I was surprised that it wasn't available when I got my Trezor.

[Anon136]

Any idea how the trezor could be used to sign longer messages? Like if you wanted to sign a contract that was a few pages long.

I know for maximum security you need to be able to see what you are signing on the trezor but maybe there is some reasonable middle ground for when people dont need that much security? I mean even if someone is spoofing client side the worst they could do is trick you into signing something other than what you intended. As long as it wasn't a transaction than its an acceptable risk. By tricking you in this way they wouldnt actually be getting your private key. And unless they are in such control over your computer that they are man in the middle brute force projecting pixels onto your screen, or part of some vast conspiracy, when you went to verify your signature with a third party you would immediately know you had been compromised in said relatively contained fashion.

It could be bad though if they tricked you into signing a transaction. Does anyone suppose there is a way for the trezor to be sure that, when it is signing a message that is too long to be reviewed on the trezor screen that at the very least it is signing something other than a transaction? One idea is that the trezor forces a concatination onto the end of any long message it signed. For example: signed using trezor. Any message that was being signed that ended with "signed using trezor" shouldnt be validated by the bitcoin network as a transaction. I know that transaction scripting is fairly robust in some ways but not that robust, is it?

Ok anyway that was less of a simple question and more of a stream of consciousness but thoughts?

[kkurtmann]

How much for the green and blue Trezor pills from the email announcement?

[dillpicklechips]

Any idea how the trezor could be used to sign longer messages? Like if you wanted to sign a contract that was a few pages long.

I know for maximum security you need to be able to see what you are signing on the trezor but maybe there is some reasonable middle ground for when people dont need that much security? I mean even if someone is spoofing client side the worst they could do is trick you into signing something other than what you intended. As long as it wasn't a transaction than its an acceptable risk. By tricking you in this way they wouldnt actually be getting your private key. And unless they are in such control over your computer that they are man in the middle brute force projecting pixels onto your screen, or part of some vast conspiracy, when you went to verify your signature with a third party you would immediately know you had been compromised in said relatively contained fashion.

It could be bad though if they tricked you into signing a transaction. Does anyone suppose there is a way for the trezor to be sure that, when it is signing a message that is too long to be reviewed on the trezor screen that at the very least it is signing something other than a transaction? One idea is that the trezor forces a concatination onto the end of any long message it signed. For example: signed using trezor. Any message that was being signed that ended with "signed using trezor" shouldnt be validated by the bitcoin network as a transaction. I know that transaction scripting is fairly robust in some ways but not that robust, is it?

Ok anyway that was less of a simple question and more of a stream of consciousness but thoughts?

Everything digital could be reduced to a single hash. Then sign the hash that corresponds to the document.

[Anon136]

Any idea how the trezor could be used to sign longer messages? Like if you wanted to sign a contract that was a few pages long.

I know for maximum security you need to be able to see what you are signing on the trezor but maybe there is some reasonable middle ground for when people dont need that much security? I mean even if someone is spoofing client side the worst they could do is trick you into signing something other than what you intended. As long as it wasn't a transaction than its an acceptable risk. By tricking you in this way they wouldnt actually be getting your private key. And unless they are in such control over your computer that they are man in the middle brute force projecting pixels onto your screen, or part of some vast conspiracy, when you went to verify your signature with a third party you would immediately know you had been compromised in said relatively contained fashion.

It could be bad though if they tricked you into signing a transaction. Does anyone suppose there is a way for the trezor to be sure that, when it is signing a message that is too long to be reviewed on the trezor screen that at the very least it is signing something other than a transaction? One idea is that the trezor forces a concatination onto the end of any long message it signed. For example: signed using trezor. Any message that was being signed that ended with "signed using trezor" shouldnt be validated by the bitcoin network as a transaction. I know that transaction scripting is fairly robust in some ways but not that robust, is it?

Ok anyway that was less of a simple question and more of a stream of consciousness but thoughts?

Everything digital could be reduced to a single hash. Then sign the hash that corresponds to the document.

It expects a little to much in the way of technical skill on the part of the user. I thought about this today when i found myself needing to sign a message longer than the trezor would allow. And i could have done it. But i just didn't think normal people would go through that extra step to verify so i found myself creating an old fashion air gapped cold storage machine. It was really sad to step backward like that after becoming accustomed to my awesome trezor.

[kkurtmann]

I am one hundred percent positive nobody can steal any coins from my Trezor. For me "watch only" on a Trezor is a fools errand, in other words, not necessary. I can even give out my 24 word seed in proper order and know I have at least an hour to transfer my funds to a new wallet because of passphrase.

[binford]

Any idea how the trezor could be used to sign longer messages? Like if you wanted to sign a contract that was a few pages long.
...

Everything digital could be reduced to a single hash. Then sign the hash that corresponds to the document.

It expects a little to much in the way of technical skill on the part of the user. I thought about this today when i found myself needing to sign a message longer than the trezor would allow.
...

i thing that getting a hash of a file s as simple as 1 command? like sha256 contract.xml and it returns the string with hash value right there in the terminal. signing that as usual with your favorite bitcoin client. it is two steps but two small steps.

I put A LOT of bitcoins on my trezor.  However, I just plugged it into my USB and it connected fine on myTrezor.  However the balance is zero!  Please help!  I contacted support too and I am waiting for their answer.  I tried forgetting the device and reconnecting but I get the same zero balance.

now that the issue is resolved you could send some btc to the addresses that previously showed 0 balance as a reminder (of the other passphrase)?

[Anon136]

Any idea how the trezor could be used to sign longer messages? Like if you wanted to sign a contract that was a few pages long.
...

Everything digital could be reduced to a single hash. Then sign the hash that corresponds to the document.

It expects a little to much in the way of technical skill on the part of the user. I thought about this today when i found myself needing to sign a message longer than the trezor would allow.
...

i thing that getting a hash of a file s as simple as 1 command? like sha256 contract.xml and it returns the string with hash value right there in the terminal. signing that as usual with your favorite bitcoin client. it is two steps but two small steps.

It still wouldn't have been appropriate for me to say. Here is a hash of the doccument: blablabla. Hash the document yourself to make sure you get the same hash. Now here is a signature of that hash: blablabla. Not as a businessman. You cant put barriers like that between people and your service. Even though in theory it is as simple as you said if they are using linux.

And actually it wouldnt have worked with bitrated.com (which is where i wanted to use an address stored on my trezor but couldn't). It's an automated process. I cant "explain" to it that its a signature of the hash of the document rather than the signature of the document that it asked for.

[Italone100]

hello, my trezor after plug in load load load and not show my bitcoin, why?
account 1 load load load

[Erdogan]

I also updated the firmware but the balance was still zero!

I put A LOT of bitcoins on my trezor.  However, I just plugged it into my USB and it connected fine on myTrezor.  However the balance is zero!  Please help!  I contacted support too and I am waiting for their answer.  I tried forgetting the device and reconnecting but I get the same zero balance.

this has something to do with the firmware update I guess.
I saw my balance being zero also, after firmware update problem was solved


PS: I really like the new firmware. The address checking is very nice!

Are you sure you entered the right passphrase?

[dsattler]

hello, my trezor after plug in load load load and not show my bitcoin, why?
account 1 load load load

Happened to me as well, but only once. I've unplugged the trezor and reconnected and it was gone.

[freebit13]

Does anyone know why outgoing transactions take longer to confirm in mytrezor than incoming ones?

When sending coins to the trezor from my desktop client, they show up as confirmed on mytrezor after one confirmation, but when sending coins from the trezor to my desktop client they take longer. Mytrezor shows it as unconfirmed even though my desktop client reports 3of6 confirmations.

Edit: 6 confirmations in my desktop client (bitcoin core), but still shows as unconfirmed in mytrezor...

[grau]

Does anyone know why outgoing transactions take longer to confirm in mytrezor than incoming ones?

When sending coins to the trezor from my desktop client, they show up as confirmed on mytrezor after one confirmation, but when sending coins from the trezor to my desktop client they take longer. Mytrezor shows it as unconfirmed even though my desktop client reports 3of6 confirmations.

Edit: 6 confirmations in my desktop client (bitcoin core), but still shows as unconfirmed in mytrezor...

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