[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[cypherdoc]

https://www.buytrezor.com/?a=mycelium.com

does Mycelium give the option to input Trezor 24 word seeds for recovery?  the default Mycelium seed is 12 words.

[blubberli]

does Mycelium give the option to input Trezor 24 word seeds for recovery?  the default Mycelium seed is 12 words.

Yes, it does. I already tested it and it worked.

[kkurtmann]

https://www.buytrezor.com/?a=mycelium.com

does Mycelium give the option to input Trezor 24 word seeds for recovery?  the default Mycelium seed is 12 words.

And passphrase too?

[cor]

Encompass, the multi-coin Electrum fork, now supports BTC, LTC and DASH.  One interface, one wallet file, one click to swap between coins.  Encompass/Trezor also supports BTC and LTC (DASH support is awaiting official release of Trezor firmware 1.3.3 by SatoshiLabs).

Try it: https://github.com/mazaclub/encompass  

+1

[cypherdoc]

did you just release new firmware?

also, what's the correct way to eject Trezor from Mycelium android?  after verifying that Trezor works with Mycelium, now it no longer works with pc.  won't load after passphrase input.

it would be nice if Mycelium allowed use of a watching only Trezor wallet.

[arorts]

Mytrezor.com shows a blank page. Yes, it had worked before in the same exact browser.

Electrum wallet with trezor plugin shows "exception: Timed out while waiting for the magic character"  

Great. Now I'm stuck without being able to use my BTC!

Please help!

[Muhammed Zakir]

Sorry if this answered already. How many outputs can be signed with Trezor? I think there is no problem with signing 2+ UTXOs.(?)

[fonsie]

it would be nice if Mycelium allowed use of a watching only Trezor wallet.

You can import the xpub key into Mycelium.

[LOBSTER]

Has anyone ever tried to use Trezor with the MyCelium Android application? I'm going to get my new device soon and want to combine both.

[windpath]

Sorry if this answered already. How many outputs can be signed with Trezor? I think there is no problem with signing 2+ UTXOs.(?)

Not sure if there is a limit. I have certainly signed tx's with many outputs...

[fonsie]

Has anyone ever tried to use Trezor with the MyCelium Android application? I'm going to get my new device soon and want to combine both.

I did just yesterday for the first time, bought a USB OTG cable plugged it into my Nexus 6 and it just worked. Did not make a payment yet however...

[cypherdoc]

Has anyone ever tried to use Trezor with the MyCelium Android application? I'm going to get my new device soon and want to combine both.

I did just yesterday for the first time, bought a USB OTG cable plugged it into my Nexus 6 and it just worked. Did not make a payment yet however...

it works great.  made a pmt to Telebit, just like in his video.

still confused about this green notice in Mycelium upon connection: "A new trezor firmware is available" that is NOT showing up when connecting to mytrezor.com

[BitcoinIsLiberty]

http://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/comments/31mvmx/trezor_needs_a_new_simple_android_app_a_tools_app


I really think it would be useful if SatoshiLabs made a tiny app for Android that did some of the basic Trezor commands. It wouldn't even need to offer any wallet or address functionality. Some type of "Trezor Tools" that: initializes new seeds, restores seeds, sets pin, sets Trezor label, and updates firmware. This leaves all wallet operations and support to the wallet software and ensures that users use official software for the more critical operations.

This would enable people to fully use the Trezor without a PC and only Android is needed. It could even pave way for an "Android Edition" Trezor with a OTG cable instead that has the ends for the phone and Trezor!  

[Carlton Banks]

http://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/comments/31mvmx/trezor_needs_a_new_simple_android_app_a_tools_app


I really think it would be useful if SatoshiLabs made a tiny app for Android that did some of the basic Trezor commands. It wouldn't even need to offer any wallet or address functionality. Some type of "Trezor Tools" that: initializes new seeds, restores seeds, sets pin, sets Trezor label, and updates firmware. This leaves all wallet operations and support to the wallet software and ensures that users use official software for the more critical operations.

This would enable people to fully use the Trezor without a PC and only Android is needed. It could even pave way for an "Android Edition" Trezor with a OTG cable instead that has the ends for the phone and Trezor!  

Tools, yes. Android, no. That's a terrible idea. The Wallet32 app does at least some of the functionality you're talking about, but I wouldn't recommend using that for anything to do with the wallet seed.

I suspect there probably is something like that on the Trezor github, but it's probably command line based.

[BitcoinIsLiberty]

Android, no. That's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with Android? Don't you think it would be useful for everyone who doesn't have a computer but has a phone?

[fonsie]

Android, no. That's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with Android? Don't you think it would be useful for everyone who doesn't have a computer but has a phone?

Buying a Trezor, but not capable of buying a PC?

What you want is available with trezor python-tools https://github.com/trezor/python-trezor

[Carlton Banks]

What you want is available with trezor python-tools https://github.com/trezor/python-trezor

There you go. Learn how to use those linked tools.

Android... it's not just Android, but the devices it typically runs on, too. But even on it's own, Android has a poor record when it comes to security (specifically cryptography, which Bitcoin relies on)

[BitcoinIsLiberty]

What you want is available with trezor python-tools https://github.com/trezor/python-trezor

There you go. Learn how to use those linked tools.

Android... it's not just Android, but the devices it typically runs on, too. But even on it's own, Android has a poor record when it comes to security (specifically cryptography, which Bitcoin relies on)

I don't know if buying a computer and compiling software on another system is useful for Android users.

Trezor was built so it doesn't depend on the host's computer security. All the secure elements remain on the Trezor. Even if the Android was a spy device how would the "Trezor Tools" create a bad seed or PIN?

I thought the whole point of Trezor was to enable secure bitcoin operations on an insecure environment?

[Carlton Banks]

I thought the whole point of Trezor was to enable secure bitcoin operations on an insecure environment?

Trezor internals are considered secure. Seed is ultimately the most sensitive wallet information. So, the seed should only be created with the Trezor internally, that's a part of their security model. Creating the seed on an online OS with very little built in security compromises that model.


Android had a security flaw with it's random number generator a few months back, Bitcoin Wallet for Android users basically discovered the issue, as it was being used to systematically target Bitcoin Wallet Android to steal the funds. Seed creation will make use of the RNG. It's patched, but how confident do you feel?

[BitcoinIsLiberty]

I thought the whole point of Trezor was to enable secure bitcoin operations on an insecure environment?

Trezor internals are considered secure. Seed is ultimately the most sensitive wallet information. So, the seed should only be created with the Trezor internally, that's a part of their security model. Creating the seed on an online OS with very little built in security compromises that model.


Android had a security flaw with it's random number generator a few months back, Bitcoin Wallet for Android users basically discovered the issue, as it was being used to systematically target Bitcoin Wallet Android to steal the funds. Seed creation will make use of the RNG. It's patched, but how confident do you feel?

Thanks for the reply but aren't pretty much all Trezors set up with mytrezor.com? Since Trezor uses deterministic seeds from a random pool it creates and combines with the host computer I'm failing to see why setting up Trezor on an Android is a bad idea? People are setting up their Trezors offline?

Perhaps you mis-read my post? I don't want Android to create the seed, I just want an app that will send the signal to the Trezor for the Trezor to make one.