[Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help

[notlist3d]

I connected a HP 1000W PSU to the top 2 port and the EVGA G2 to the bottom 2 port and that's when the Avalon 6 shows 13V.  I should have the breakout boards for the DELL PSU next week so I'm excited to see the hash rate by then.  Also getting an Electrician to come out soon to add a 40 or 50AMP 240V outlet to my garage so I can play with the 2 x 2000W IBM PSU using Jabberwork boards.  I just ordered those PSU, breakout boards and fans.  Very excited about them as they're good for OC and are also very quiet based on the fan chosen.

Ohh wow I did not realize you meant doing that.  If your using 2 PSU's (which I do not suggest unless you know what your doing and risks).  But you plug the separate PSU's on left and right.... not top and bottom.  That is really bad it's mixing power from two PSU's in one blade.

If you did two on right from one psu, and two on left on other the hashing boards are only being powered by 1 PSU, not mixed.  Its hard to say what is going on when it had it mixed PSU's on top/bottom.  I'm just happy your miner is working great now.

These are good info to have in here for others.  if anyone else is using 2 PSU's they might want to read this.

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[nhando]

That's why I asked if the hash board is connected from top to bottom or left to right.  I can't open up the unit all the way but when I open it slightly, it look like the hashboard goes sideway left to right not top to bottom, hence why I connected it that way.  I would never connect more than 1 PSU  to the same Hashboard.  Either way I tested it for fun as I have full 90 days credit card protection if anything happens to the unit but I would not recommend anyone trying this.  After seeing how it behaved so badly, I think it's just best to wait to use the same PSU on both hashboards.  I have quite a few new PSU coming so I'm excited to test them out.  Still loving the Avalon 6, very solid box and so quiet.  Just need it's price to drop lower to be more competitive with the S7 so I can order 2 more.  I want to move 1 into the Living room and that will be a free heater.  

Special Thanks to Phillip - He's been a great help in helping me pick the 2x2000W IBM PSU.  I love quiet PSU so I'm very excited to see how his testing goes for those PSU and whether he can get better HASH rates using them on the Avalon 6.  I'm sure he can as the voltage can be change.  I've ordered it based on his recommendation and the fan type.  It's definitely reviews from you guys that help us newbies, learn what gear is best for different people's need.  

P.S just an update, the weather got cooler tonight and I can already see the hash rate drop from 3440 at 75 degree Ambient so the unit runs at 43 Degree C to 3380 hash rate as the ambient temperature drop to 60 and the unit is running at 38C.   No wonder why they let their ASIC run so hot.

[notlist3d]

That's why I asked if the hash board is connected from top to bottom or left to right.  I can't open up the unit all the way but when I open it slightly, it look like the hashboard goes sideway left to right not top to bottom, hence why I connected it that way.  I would never connect more than 1 PSU  to the same Hashboard.  Either way I tested it for fun as I have full 90 days credit card protection if anything happens to the unit but I would not recommend anyone trying this.  After seeing how it behaved so badly, I think it's just best to wait to use the same PSU on both hashboards.  I have quite a few new PSU coming so I'm excited to test them out.  Still loving the Avalon 6, very solid box and so quiet.  Just need it's price to drop lower to be more competitive with the S7 so I can order 2 more.  I want to move 1 into the Living room and that will be a free heater.  

Special Thanks to Phillip - He's been a great help in helping me pick the 2x2000W IBM PSU.  I love quiet PSU so I'm very excited to see how his testing goes for those PSU and whether he can get better HASH rates using them on the Avalon 6.  I'm sure he can as the voltage can be change.  I've ordered it based on his recommendation and the fan type.  It's definitely reviews from you guys that help us newbies, learn what gear is best for different people's need.  

P.S just an update, the weather got cooler tonight and I can already see the hash rate drop from 3440 at 75 degree Ambient so the unit runs at 43 Degree C to 3380 hash rate as the ambient temperature drop to 60 and the unit is running at 38C.   No wonder why they let their ASIC run so hot.

I did not see that first time reading it through.  I went back and saw :

I just open the box and can see the hasboard are split top and bottom so the top 2 ports are of the same board.  I didn't open it all the way as it would ruin the warranty sticker.  I don't recommend anyone using different PSU as the Voltage is different and may cause issue.  I saw my machine show up as 13V and it wouldn't hash after 5 mins so I just change it back to the way it was before to avoid issues.

Just incase anyone else does it it's left side, and right side that are split. Each side has a hashing board.   Don't mix power between the two if using 2 PSU's.

If possible use 1 PSU for the entire unit.  If you are using multiple make sure you know what your doing as it could end up with bad results.

But happy you got yours going now.  The temp does seem to effect them.  I'm not to bothered by it I like them running cold personally I don't like pushing it hot.  But it seems those who do run hotter get a little more hash.

[nhando]

I still love this Quiet hard working Avalon.  I have the EVGA PSU FAN facing the Avalon and it actually cools the half facing it.  The other side is quite hot.  So far so good, I reboot it quite a lot to test and the box is very consistent and solid. 

[notlist3d]

I still love this Quiet hard working Avalon.  I have the EVGA PSU FAN facing the Avalon and it actually cools the half facing it.  The other side is quite hot.  So far so good, I reboot it quite a lot to test and the box is very consistent and solid. 

The sound is nice.   Once your done testing you will run for quite a while.  I'm testing mine to see how long.  But a few day's ago I made it over a week.

So once set you really can leave it turned on for a while.

[nhando]

Phillip is doing an excellent review on the 2K IBM PSU with higher voltage for both Avalon and S7 so really excited to see the results on whether he's able to keep these Avalon at the 3.7-4K TH stable with the 12.7 Voltage.

[philipma1957]

Phillip is doing an excellent review on the 2K IBM PSU with higher voltage for both Avalon and S7 so really excited to see the results on whether he's able to keep these Avalon at the 3.7-4K TH stable with the 12.7 Voltage.

I got bored with the middle volt setting of  12.23volts   and I am now testing 12.56 volts  my garage is 88f and outside temp is 63 f normal temps outside at night in NJ for dec are 42f.


so 8 minutes at 12.56 volts  and i am doing 3950 for each avalon 6.

[notlist3d]

Phillip is doing an excellent review on the 2K IBM PSU with higher voltage for both Avalon and S7 so really excited to see the results on whether he's able to keep these Avalon at the 3.7-4K TH stable with the 12.7 Voltage.

I got bored with the middle volt setting of  12.23volts   and I am now testing 12.56 volts  my garage is 88f and outside temp is 63 f normal temps outside at night in NJ for dec are 42f.


so 8 minutes at 12.56 volts  and i am doing 3950 for each avalon 6.

Pretty impressive overclock.  Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have the wattage used during that test?  And it's getting cold here to. It's going to get down to 40F here tonight.  I'm starting to need less big fan's running which is a good thing.   A little less overhead.

[r00tdude]

Anyone having an issue where the webUI doesn't show any miners but it's mining? Also, once I SSH to the rig, how do I take a look at the cgminer console? How about cgminer-monitor restarting every 5 minutes? (I commented out the cgminer-monitor in crontab) Man, without being able to see any of the ASIC info or the console trying to troubleshoot this is a real problem. Anyone had any luck running these rigs using Minera?

Mon Dec 14 22:15:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 970 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:20:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1121 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:25:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1226 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor

Thanks!

PS. I just re-imaged clean using the image in the OP, so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem...

[philipma1957]

Phillip is doing an excellent review on the 2K IBM PSU with higher voltage for both Avalon and S7 so really excited to see the results on whether he's able to keep these Avalon at the 3.7-4K TH stable with the 12.7 Voltage.

I got bored with the middle volt setting of  12.23volts   and I am now testing 12.56 volts  my garage is 88f and outside temp is 63 f normal temps outside at night in NJ for dec are 42f.


so 8 minutes at 12.56 volts  and i am doing 3950 for each avalon 6.

Pretty impressive overclock.  Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have the wattage used during that test?  And it's getting cold here to. It's going to get down to 40F here tonight.  I'm starting to need less big fan's running which is a good thing.   A little less overhead.

17 amps at 240 Volts = 4080 watts   it is running one s-7 and two Avalon sixes total hash is 12800 gh

so 4080/12800 = 0.31875 watts pr gh

the pair of sixes

[notlist3d]

Phillip is doing an excellent review on the 2K IBM PSU with higher voltage for both Avalon and S7 so really excited to see the results on whether he's able to keep these Avalon at the 3.7-4K TH stable with the 12.7 Voltage.

I got bored with the middle volt setting of  12.23volts   and I am now testing 12.56 volts  my garage is 88f and outside temp is 63 f normal temps outside at night in NJ for dec are 42f.


so 8 minutes at 12.56 volts  and i am doing 3950 for each avalon 6.

Pretty impressive overclock.  Thanks for sharing.

Do you happen to have the wattage used during that test?  And it's getting cold here to. It's going to get down to 40F here tonight.  I'm starting to need less big fan's running which is a good thing.   A little less overhead.

17 amps at 240 Volts = 4080 watts   it is running one s-7 and two Avalon sixes total hash is 12800 gh

so 4080/12800 = 0.31875 watts pr gh

the pair of sixes

Thanks for sharing!   Intersting that is a pretty nice OC with not losing a ton of efficiency.

Nice to know with right PSU you can really crank them up when you want, during periods like this where it looks like next difficulty change will be  nasty.

[nhando]

Awesome work Phillip!!  Wow very very nice HASH RATE.  We'll wait for more of your data to determine the sweet spot for both OC rate and stability.  3.9TH is very nice!  Curious to know how many watts it's pulling at 12.3 / 12.4 Volts like you're doing for this Hash rate since you have the total wattage # with the S7 included.

[philipma1957]

Awesome work Phillip!!  Wow very very nice HASH RATE.  We'll wait for more of your data to determine the sweet spot for both OC rate and stability.  3.9TH is very nice!  Curious to know how many watts it's pulling at 12.3 / 12.4 Volts like you're doing for this Hash rate since you have the total wattage # with the S7 included.

I did the avalon pair got 11 amps  I did all the units got 17 amps


so the avalon pair most likely is using 11 amps x 240 volts = 2640 watts to give 7900gh = .33 watts a gh.  at the wall

and the s-7 is using 6 amps x 240 volts = 1440 watts for 5000gh = .288 watts a gh.

I have heat issues as  the garage was 88f  as the temps outside are simply way too warm for perfect testing.

I had to downclock last night  to cool the bedroom off to sleep.

I love the product that finsky + j4bbrwock is selling soon. 

[nhando]

Fantastic results.  How many Avalon and S7 you have running your garage now that it drove the temp up almost 20 degrees?  I noticed you have fire proof blankets covering your miners, is it still that loud even thru the garage? Yes, I really like the new j4bbrwock board you reviewed.  I ordered the older one but it will still serve what I need well.  Can't wait to see the results on my Avalon with the Dell 750 and these 2 x 2K IBM PSU w j4bbrwock boards.  

[philipma1957]

Fantastic results.  How many Avalon and S7 you have running your garage now that it drove the temp up almost 20 degrees?  I noticed you have fire proof blankets covering your miners, is it still that loud even thru the garage? Yes, I really like the new j4bbrwock board you reviewed.  I ordered the older one but it will still serve what I need well.  Can't wait to see the results on my Avalon with the Dell 750 and these 2 x 2K IBM PSU w j4bbrwock boards.  

Well remember it was 72f in NJ yesterday.  My home is really very well insulated due to DIY work I did from 1992 to 1999.  I changed out my home from Aluminum electrical wires to copper and since I put more then 100 holes in all the walls to do it I insulated the entire home.

So if you make an kind of in home heat it does not leave the house unless the weather is very cold.

This 1 psu can do 17 amps so 17 x 240 = 4080 watts.    the  2 x 2000 watt psu's

4080 watts = just about 14,000 btu's

1 s-7
2 avalon 6's

[wlefever]

Fantastic results.  How many Avalon and S7 you have running your garage now that it drove the temp up almost 20 degrees?  I noticed you have fire proof blankets covering your miners, is it still that loud even thru the garage? Yes, I really like the new j4bbrwock board you reviewed.  I ordered the older one but it will still serve what I need well.  Can't wait to see the results on my Avalon with the Dell 750 and these 2 x 2K IBM PSU w j4bbrwock boards.  

Well remember it was 72f in NJ yesterday.  My home is really very well insulated due to DIY work I did from 1992 to 1999.  I changed out my home from Aluminum electrical wires to copper and since I put more then 100 holes in all the walls to do it I insulated the entire home.

So if you make an kind of in home heat it does not leave the house unless the weather is very cold.

This 1 psu can do 17 amps so 17 x 240 = 4080 watts.    the  2 x 2000 watt psu's

4080 watts = just about 14,000 btu's

1 s-7
2 avalon 6's

Damn ya'll need some colder weather up there like I wish we had down here in the South as well!  It was in the 80's (F) this past weekend.  If you were to buy 10 miners to host at a hosting facility would you still prefer the Avalon 6, or is the S7 just better for pure hashing, and profitabilty?  I have given up trying to run many Avalons with my own set up just because I can't supply enough cold air.

[philipma1957]

Fantastic results.  How many Avalon and S7 you have running your garage now that it drove the temp up almost 20 degrees?  I noticed you have fire proof blankets covering your miners, is it still that loud even thru the garage? Yes, I really like the new j4bbrwock board you reviewed.  I ordered the older one but it will still serve what I need well.  Can't wait to see the results on my Avalon with the Dell 750 and these 2 x 2K IBM PSU w j4bbrwock boards.  

Well remember it was 72f in NJ yesterday.  My home is really very well insulated due to DIY work I did from 1992 to 1999.  I changed out my home from Aluminum electrical wires to copper and since I put more then 100 holes in all the walls to do it I insulated the entire home.

So if you make an kind of in home heat it does not leave the house unless the weather is very cold.

This 1 psu can do 17 amps so 17 x 240 = 4080 watts.    the  2 x 2000 watt psu's

4080 watts = just about 14,000 btu's

1 s-7
2 avalon 6's

Damn ya'll need some colder weather up there like I wish we had down here in the South as well!  It was in the 80's (F) this past weekend.  If you were to buy 10 miners to host at a hosting facility would you still prefer the Avalon 6, or is the S7 just better for pure hashing, and profitabilty?  I have given up trying to run many Avalons with my own set up just because I can't supply enough cold air.

if I had a nearby reliable hosting service  would I do all s-7 or all avalon 6's.

Neither I would do more s-7's and less avalon 6's  .

Say 7 to 3 ratio. 

7 s-7's   and 3 avalon 6's .

 Always a bit paranoid I like the idea of multiple choice in gear.

If I was doing it based on price and nothing else 10 s-7's at the current prices available.

[r00tdude]

Can I please ask for some help here?

Anyone having an issue where the webUI doesn't show any miners but it's mining? Also, once I SSH to the rig, how do I take a look at the cgminer console? How about cgminer-monitor restarting every 5 minutes? (I commented out the cgminer-monitor in crontab) Man, without being able to see any of the ASIC info or the console trying to troubleshoot this is a real problem. Anyone had any luck running these rigs using Minera?

Mon Dec 14 22:15:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 970 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:20:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1121 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:25:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1226 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor

Thanks!

PS. I just re-imaged clean using the image in the OP, so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem...

[philipma1957]

Can I please ask for some help here?

Anyone having an issue where the webUI doesn't show any miners but it's mining? Also, once I SSH to the rig, how do I take a look at the cgminer console? How about cgminer-monitor restarting every 5 minutes? (I commented out the cgminer-monitor in crontab) Man, without being able to see any of the ASIC info or the console trying to troubleshoot this is a real problem. Anyone had any luck running these rigs using Minera?

Mon Dec 14 22:15:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 970 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:20:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1121 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:25:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1226 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor

Thanks!

PS. I just re-imaged clean using the image in the OP, so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem...

Restart the miners and it should come back.  I have had it happen on hard power off and power up.

I go to configuration page of the gui .  I then set freq at 500 and change fan by 1 say 25 move it to 26 save and apply and it comes ups with both miners.

This issue seems to occur with power off psu and then power on the psu

[kntdookoo]

Can I please ask for some help here?

Anyone having an issue where the webUI doesn't show any miners but it's mining? Also, once I SSH to the rig, how do I take a look at the cgminer console? How about cgminer-monitor restarting every 5 minutes? (I commented out the cgminer-monitor in crontab) Man, without being able to see any of the ASIC info or the console trying to troubleshoot this is a real problem. Anyone had any luck running these rigs using Minera?

Mon Dec 14 22:15:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 970 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:20:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1121 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Mon Dec 14 22:25:01 2015 cron.info crond[404]: crond: USER root pid 1226 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor

Thanks!

PS. I just re-imaged clean using the image in the OP, so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem...

Same issue here rootdude. I have two of mine doing this about once a week. A hard reboot of pi and PSU usually works. But, twice now I have had to re-image and re-configure to get them showing the connected miner and mining info. Weird one. Have not figured out completely yet.