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February 28, 2016, 08:20:00 AM
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I am just stuck on actually getting hashing with my Avalon6. I seem to be getting into the Pi just fine, and I can see green lights on the hashing boards, and a Blue light (and a Green) on the USB dongle. I am pretty sure the USB dongle is a USB --> I2c converter. In any case. the Pi see kano.is just fine, but I never get any readings from the hashing unit itself. No temp, No Fan speed, no volts, Nothing. It really isn't seeing anything out there.

The following messages are in the system log, and look worrisome:

Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.368430] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 87
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.627728] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 88 using dwc_otg
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.751307] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=29f1, idProduct=33f2
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.759816] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.768746] usb 1-1.2: Product: USB2IIC Converter
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.774930] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: CANAAN
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.780621] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: 20141122
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 daemon.err udevd[2542]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Aisc00ip00in01': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 daemon.err udevd[2543]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic02iscFEip00in00': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:42 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2445.909561] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 88
Sun Feb 28 01:54:42 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.168853] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 89 using dwc_otg
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.292385] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=29f1, idProduct=33f2
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.300918] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.309820] usb 1-1.2: Product: USB2IIC Converter
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.316055] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: CANAAN
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.321746] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: 20141122
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 daemon.err udevd[2558]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Aisc00ip00in01': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 daemon.err udevd[2559]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic02iscFEip00in00': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:55:01 2016 cron.info crond[405]: crond: USER root pid 2566 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Sun Feb 28 01:55:12 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2475.470652] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 89

These seem to just repeat forever, and actual hashing blades and fan are very quiet, though the fan is turning.

Any thoughts on what to look at? I have tried various cable swaps that I can do (i.e. the usb cables and RPi power supply and such) all to no avail. I only have the single 4-pin cable for the A6, which I expect is essentially an i2c "cable".

I noticed aways back mention of additional kinds of firmware for other bits (i.e. AUC, MM, Fan, etc), but I have no idea how I would check them and/or change them. Are those items flashed separately from the RPi image? How does one inspect those bits of firmware for their version?

Thanks for any of your thoughts.

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Assuming the the "USB Dongle" is the AUC2 as mentioned in the Avalon documentation, there is mention of 3 LED's on the AUC2. I am assuming that they don't count the PWR LED as one of the three. They mention Red, Green, and Blue. I can observe a patern on those lights that looks like it roughly matches up with the failures in the "System Log" and "Kernel Log". I stared at it for a couple of minutes, and there is the pattern:

Red/Green both OFF . Blue is ON.
.....
Wait about 20-30 seconds
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Red OFF. Blue and Green both ON for about 2 seconds
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About 2 seconds later
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Red OFF, Blue and Green turn OFF.
----
Red and Green remain OFF. Blue turns ON
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Repeat back at the top of this sequence.

This looks to me like some kind of retry loop, either driven by the RPi, or possibly done by whatever hardware is on the AUC2. This might be why there is firmware mentioned for the AUC2. I also used my USB power meter, and the voltage coming out of the RPi USB port is spot on at 5.00V. The current is very low at about .01A when only Blue light is on, and it jumps to .05A for while and then falls back to .01A. This all looks like a very light load on the RPi USB port (i.e. no obvious overloads). I never saw the Red LED turn on or even blink when I watched it.

I'll probably try "ohming out" the 4-pin cable next, but I am getting pretty tired tonight. Right now I am pretty convinced that I'll need to get this AUC2 communication issue ironed out before I can really worry about anything else (i.e. the actual hashing unit).

When I apply the +12V to the hashing unit, the fan spins up and down a couple of time, until it finally settles down at a very low hum. I don't see any Red lights on the hashing unit, and all looks good there so far.  This just further leads me to think I have a breakdown somewhere between the RPi and the actual Avalon6. Even after I turn off the +12V and the fan spins down, the light flashing sequence, and the System Log messages continue. Never seen the Red light.

If anyone can correct or embellish my understanding of what I am seeing, please do so.
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February 29, 2016, 12:15:17 AM
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I am just stuck on actually getting hashing with my Avalon6. I seem to be getting into the Pi just fine, and I can see green lights on the hashing boards, and a Blue light (and a Green) on the USB dongle. I am pretty sure the USB dongle is a USB --> I2c converter. In any case. the Pi see kano.is just fine, but I never get any readings from the hashing unit itself. No temp, No Fan speed, no volts, Nothing. It really isn't seeing anything out there.

The following messages are in the system log, and look worrisome:

Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.368430] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 87
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.627728] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 88 using dwc_otg
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.751307] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=29f1, idProduct=33f2
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.759816] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.768746] usb 1-1.2: Product: USB2IIC Converter
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.774930] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: CANAAN
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2416.780621] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: 20141122
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 daemon.err udevd[2542]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Aisc00ip00in01': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:13 2016 daemon.err udevd[2543]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic02iscFEip00in00': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:42 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2445.909561] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 88
Sun Feb 28 01:54:42 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.168853] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 89 using dwc_otg
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.292385] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=29f1, idProduct=33f2
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.300918] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.309820] usb 1-1.2: Product: USB2IIC Converter
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.316055] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: CANAAN
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2446.321746] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: 20141122
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 daemon.err udevd[2558]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Aisc00ip00in01': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:54:43 2016 daemon.err udevd[2559]: failed to execute '/sbin/modprobe' '/sbin/modprobe -bv usb:v29F1p33F2d0100dcEFdsc02dp01ic02iscFEip00in00': No such file or directory
Sun Feb 28 01:55:01 2016 cron.info crond[405]: crond: USER root pid 2566 cmd /usr/bin/cgminer-monitor
Sun Feb 28 01:55:12 2016 kern.info kernel: [ 2475.470652] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 89

These seem to just repeat forever, and actual hashing blades and fan are very quiet, though the fan is turning.

Any thoughts on what to look at? I have tried various cable swaps that I can do (i.e. the usb cables and RPi power supply and such) all to no avail. I only have the single 4-pin cable for the A6, which I expect is essentially an i2c "cable".

I noticed aways back mention of additional kinds of firmware for other bits (i.e. AUC, MM, Fan, etc), but I have no idea how I would check them and/or change them. Are those items flashed separately from the RPi image? How does one inspect those bits of firmware for their version?

Thanks for any of your thoughts.


Did you try plugging into different USB ports in your RPi? Log seems to indicate some sort of trouble between RPi and the module (AUC?), or between RPi's USB ports and the module. It might be worth plugging into other USB ports on your RPi and see if RPi can resume communicating with the module.

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February 29, 2016, 12:51:43 AM
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The blue adapter may be under powered.

I had an issue yesterday so I got a powered Usb hub then used a y cable from my compac stick  collection.

So two usb hubs are sending power to the rasp pi.

That little micro usb has more power to go into the usb.

I then got a second y cable plugged two ends into the rasp pi.
Put a usb out to the little blue stick and boom! All is well.

I suggest you try to beef up power to the little blue stick and to the rasp pi.


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February 29, 2016, 02:21:52 AM
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Two questions.

1. How do you know which version of A6 you have? I understand there are 2 hardware revisions for A6, so how do you find out which version you have?

2. Both of my A6 have hot spots on the bottom side. Is it okay to place it upside down? I think I can reduce the heat coming from the bottom side by directing forced air on it if it's placed upside down. Are there something innards that can fall from being placed upside down?

TIA

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Two questions.

1. How do you know which version of A6 you have? I understand there are 2 hardware revisions for A6, so how do you find out which version you have?

2. Both of my A6 have hot spots on the bottom side. Is it okay to place it upside down? I think I can reduce the heat coming from the bottom side by directing forced air on it if it's placed upside down. Are there something innards that can fall from being placed upside down?

TIA

the fan on the older model is a delta.
the newer model is not.

I would say you could based on my disassembly of mine.  I have a link


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1336377.msg13742867#msg13742867

the controller is the top it could go on the bottom.  your first number is the controller temp  like 30 or 35

when you turn it upside down  see if the first number stays under 42  as the controller will turn off at 45

you know the 35 68 67 

 that = controller 1st board 2nd board

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February 29, 2016, 03:20:59 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you philipma! You da man.

I guess there's nothing inside that can fall down if I placed A6 upside down. The fan in my A6 does not look like it's Delta, must be version 2 hardware then.

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February 29, 2016, 03:25:42 AM
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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

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February 29, 2016, 08:05:20 AM
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1. How do you know which version of A6 you have? I understand there are 2 hardware revisions for A6, so how do you find out which version you have?

Another way to tell is hash rate, as the Rev 2's have a higher base rate - closer to 3.7 than 3.5.

2. Both of my A6 have hot spots on the bottom side. Is it okay to place it upside down? I think I can reduce the heat coming from the bottom side by directing forced air on it if it's placed upside down. Are there something innards that can fall from being placed upside down?

The reason I was told that they have a hot spot on the bottom is because the heat sink is closer to the case on the bottom - plus there's a pretty big open air cavity on the top.  Flipping them over probably wouldn't hurt, and might also help address the issue that hot air sometimes gets trapped in that upper area (because it doesn't have a clean air inlet that goes over the controller board), which can cause the controller to read higher temps than actual ambient.

And yes, those Sanyo Denki Ace fan's are sweet in terms of quality, price and performance!  I use them on all my PSU's as well...
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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.
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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.
My V2 Avalon 6 units came with non-Delta fans. V1 A6 units came with sweet Delta fans which were quiet fans. The non-Delta fans in my A6 are LOUD, I didn't push my miners so I don't know how loud it can get maximum but I replaced it with a Sanyo fans. Now, my A6 stays at 3330 rpm running about 3.5 TH at freq 400. Temp reads 31 67 68. I didn't have to tear any stickers or seals to replace the fans. Unless you told blockc, they wouldn't know the fans were repaced. Why would it matter? The Sanyo fans are more better than the crap fan they originally put inside my A6 units.

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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.



you do not need to open the case to change the fan.

I would say it is impossible to tell you put in a sanyo denki ace fan for the stock version 2 fan.

But as always swapping it is at your own risk.

I cracked open the case on 1 avalon6  due to the blade I burnt up with over volt.  That no longer is under warranty.
 

I have the burnt one which is repaired it  was nov 24 out of warranty.
I also have a second one from nov 24  so dec jan feb. over 90 days that one is out of warranty.
I have 1 from markaz it was a nov model out of warranty.
I have 1 from 64demsions it was a nov model out of warranty.

I have the two from the group buys in jan and feb.

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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.



you do not need to open the case to change the fan.

I would say it is impossible to tell you put in a sanyo denki ace fan for the stock version 2 fan.

But as always swapping it is at your own risk.

I cracked open the case on 1 avalon6  due to the blade I burnt up with over volt.  That no longer is under warranty.
 

I have the burnt one which is repaired it  was nov 24 out of warranty.
I also have a second one from nov 24  so dec jan feb. over 90 days that one is out of warranty.
I have 1 from markaz it was a nov model out of warranty.
I have 1 from 64demsions it was a nov model out of warranty.

I have the two from the group buys in jan and feb.


It might be impossible to tell... but I still am not going to tell them to void warranty and count on it not being able to tell.  That just is not me.  If you switch fan's you should consider warranty void if you still have them.  But your right more and more are becoming out of warranty due to time.

Yes they likely will not know... but I'm not suggesting doing it and counting on them not being able to tell.  But if out of warranty or don't care about warranty, sure go for it.
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Anyone have any ideas where I can pickup 2 more USB dongles?
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Anyone have any ideas where I can pickup 2 more USB dongles?

try => sales@blockc.co

They are USA reseller for Avalon.

I just asked them for a dongle and a few spare link cables (as i broke one but managed to repair it)
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Anyone have any ideas where I can pickup 2 more USB dongles?

try => sales@blockc.co

They are USA reseller for Avalon.

I just asked them for a dongle and a few spare link cables (as i broke one but managed to repair it)


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Anyone have any ideas where I can pickup 2 more USB dongles?

try => sales@blockc.co

They are USA reseller for Avalon.

I just asked them for a dongle and a few spare link cables (as i broke one but managed to repair it)


Thanks, E-Mail sent!!

Just got a quote.

10$ for a dongle and 2$ for the link cable. (Us dollard)
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Anyone have any ideas where I can pickup 2 more USB dongles?

try => sales@blockc.co

They are USA reseller for Avalon.

I just asked them for a dongle and a few spare link cables (as i broke one but managed to repair it)


Thanks, E-Mail sent!!

Just got a quote.

10$ for a dongle and 2$ for the link cable. (Us dollard)

Same here, they even asked me about you!!  We're the first ones to ask for dongles!!
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When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.
My V2 Avalon 6 units came with non-Delta fans. V1 A6 units came with sweet Delta fans which were quiet fans. The non-Delta fans in my A6 are LOUD, I didn't push my miners so I don't know how loud it can get maximum but I replaced it with a Sanyo fans. Now, my A6 stays at 3330 rpm running about 3.5 TH at freq 400. Temp reads 31 67 68. I didn't have to tear any stickers or seals to replace the fans. Unless you told blockc, they wouldn't know the fans were repaced. Why would it matter? The Sanyo fans are more better than the crap fan they originally put inside my A6 units.

Which fan's are better? The Delta's on the Avalon 6 v1? Or Sanyo? Was wondering if it's worth to swap the fans to Sanyo on a version 1 to make it even more quieter, or is the Delta's already as quiet or quieter?

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March 02, 2016, 03:08:03 AM
 #720

When I received my A6, I was surprised at how loud its fan was. I was expecting a quiet miner, not something that was almost as loud as an S5. I replaced the fan with a Sanyo Denki Ace fan and what a difference. I understand why people like philipma replaced their fans with the Sanyo. Do yourself a favor, if you have not replaced your fan, please get a Sanyo fan. I am a fan of Sanyo fan.

I never really had that big of issue with sound with mine.   I ran 1 in my room for testing at first.   But mine I would say was quieter then my S5.  My S5 I did not like in my room.

But fan changing... void's warranty.  So I would make sure your out of warranty before doing this.  And if you get BlockC they do a good job with stickers to show if it's been open or not.
My V2 Avalon 6 units came with non-Delta fans. V1 A6 units came with sweet Delta fans which were quiet fans. The non-Delta fans in my A6 are LOUD, I didn't push my miners so I don't know how loud it can get maximum but I replaced it with a Sanyo fans. Now, my A6 stays at 3330 rpm running about 3.5 TH at freq 400. Temp reads 31 67 68. I didn't have to tear any stickers or seals to replace the fans. Unless you told blockc, they wouldn't know the fans were repaced. Why would it matter? The Sanyo fans are more better than the crap fan they originally put inside my A6 units.

Which fan's are better? The Delta's on the Avalon 6 v1? Or Sanyo? Was wondering if it's worth to swap the fans to Sanyo on a version 1 to make it even more quieter, or is the Delta's already as quiet or quieter?

the delta is better but = 20 bucks

the sanyo is about 10 for one and about 5 or 6 for a case of 20.

the rev 2 fan is really loud.

so when I found the case of sanyos for 98 bucks I grabbed it. 4.90 a fan.

if you gave me free deltas and free sanyo's I would use the deltas'

but at 4.90 for a sanyo  and 20 for a delta it was an easy choice.



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