Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....

[imamusma]

Marquez is known as one of the drivers who has a high mentality and confidence and that is of course the most important factor for a racer, but for the title race this season I think Marquez has to work harder while on the track even though his condition is not fully fit, because this season different from the previous season where he had to compete with young riders whose performances had developed well such as Quartararo, Bagnaia and Jorge Martin.

This year Marquez is already in a 100% fit condition so there is no more discussion about illness or injury because all of that has healed and for the problem of competition this year it will clearly look very fierce and very tight with many young, strong talented riders and many races. must be passed by all riders to make the consistency of each rider it must be really maintained. So there are no easy things that can be lived by all riders this year.

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[Silver80]

It will be interesting when the mask requirements, distance rules and restrictions in hotel areas will also be removed, as well as eliminating the quarantine.  Motorcyclists feel more comfortable with concerns about covid19, this can affect the mentality of riders in competing, this can change the championship scheme that you predict, they may not get it ranked 1-3.

It looks like the drivers are used to that sort of thing now that they've all been doing it for two years with the renewal of the rules related to covid19.
And talking about predictions it will not be easy to say now because everything is still very open to happen, but everyone can see how the potential of the riders in the past with each very powerful bike.

You should be able to observe my statement which states that in Qatar there is a change of agenda without prioritizing health protocols, why are you still sticking with the covid 19 rules that were experienced 2 years ago, this has used a new rhythm or was normal before covid, this has a psychological influence on riders so  Riders have passion, this time it's an opportunity for the younger generation.

[alegotardo]

I am really surprised that those two cars look so different if you directly compare them. If you only see each car on its own, they look almost completely identical, but here it becomes pretty obvious that there are huge differences between Ferrari and Mercedes. The very slim and pointy nose of the Ferrari is really something special and pretty unique so far amongst the revealed cars. I also really like that Mercedes went back and used the silver livery again, in the end the silver arrows are a huge part of the success story and the image of Mercedes as a great car manufacturer. I hope it will be an interesting F1 season again this year.

It's not just in appearances, but also in the performance of these cars, as one of Nikolas Tombazis' wishes with the new F1 technical regulations is that this results in a smaller difference between competitors in the category in 2022.
I personally really want to see Ferrari more aggressive, and that it can shine on the podiums again.

[diderdrogba]

We have left the first testing week of the new season behind. I watched a recap for these three days. And it is a big joy to watch Ferrari's car now. Its new design is fascinating to me. And its design is not the only thing that attracts my attention now. Its performance also seems to have improved a lot. Leclerc was the fastest driver on day 2. On day 3, Lewis Hamilton captured the fastest lap of the whole week though. But Ferrari's car is still seeming to be very promising. If they solve the remaining small problems before the season starts officially, Leclerc and Sainz both can have a great season.

[tokeweed]

According to Alonso, Ferrari and Mercedes are the 2 fastest car of the tests

Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-piloti/alonso-sorpreso-ferrari-sembra-la-piu-veloce-606321.html

Also the Redbull boss is "scared" about Ferrari and he is already talking about how low Ferrari was low on gas.


Can Ferrari really compete for the title?

Mind games imho...  I think those kind of statements from the likes of Horner should start making their rivals a bit worried.  I mean why would Horner say they’re weak if they’re really weak?  It’s like they’re giving up on the season without putting up a fight.  But it could also be an acknowledgement that Ferrari could be in the running for a championship run this season?   I can’t wait!

[Cnut237]

According to Alonso, Ferrari and Mercedes are the 2 fastest car of the tests [...] Also the Redbull boss is "scared" about Ferrari

Mind games imho...  I think those kind of statements from the likes of Horner should start making their rivals a bit worried.  I mean why would Horner say they’re weak if they’re really weak?  It’s like they’re giving up on the season without putting up a fight.  But it could also be an acknowledgement that Ferrari could be in the running for a championship run this season?   I can’t wait!

Yeah, I'd agree with that. If Red Bull are going out of their way to say they're scared of another car, that just makes me think Red Bull are really strong and everyone should be scared of Red Bull.
That said, yes, I'd love to see Ferrari back at the top too... it's where they should be. Is it realistic? Who knows?

[swogerino]

According to Alonso, Ferrari and Mercedes are the 2 fastest car of the tests [...] Also the Redbull boss is "scared" about Ferrari

Mind games imho...  I think those kind of statements from the likes of Horner should start making their rivals a bit worried.  I mean why would Horner say they’re weak if they’re really weak?  It’s like they’re giving up on the season without putting up a fight.  But it could also be an acknowledgement that Ferrari could be in the running for a championship run this season?   I can’t wait!

Yeah, I'd agree with that. If Red Bull are going out of their way to say they're scared of another car, that just makes me think Red Bull are really strong and everyone should be scared of Red Bull.
That said, yes, I'd love to see Ferrari back at the top too... it's where they should be. Is it realistic? Who knows?

I agree that nothing should be taken seriously during testing.I saw that Mercedes was on top of the tests but also McLaren was doing good together with Redbull with Perez being third.Nothing to be conclusive from such action.We need to see what will go on in 10 March on Bahrain which will be the final 2 day test before F1 2022 starts officially with the first race.I personally see that Ferrari is really strong compared to what it was the last year and I believe also McLaren,Redbull to be strong contenders for race wins during this year.This should make this F1 2022 a great show to watch on TV and get entertained.

[el kaka22]

Ferrari put a ton of work on this year's car so I would guess there is at least some merit into it, they are definitely looking good. However, we need to remember that this is mind games as well, it is not really that easy to make Red Bull scared, they have been quite great for the past 10+ years, and doubt they will start to suck right now.

Maybe the key point where red bull is missing right now is that they were amazing at turns, like on a straight line Mercedes was clearly better but RB always managed to turn faster, whereas Mercedes had to break harder, and that could be not done this year due to car changing shape? Eventually they will surely get there again.

[coinlocket$]

We have finally the colors of the next Alfa Romeo.



Until now they used a placeholder.

Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/f1-team/alfa-romeo-oggi-il-filming-day-f1-test-barcellona-606423.html

[Captain Corporate]

 Its not easy to make predictions from today. We need to first wait for the real races to make decisions, even the qualifiers wouldn't really tell us the whole story, because qualifiers could be deceiving. Remember how Russell did awesome on Q1's, even went as much as Q3 if I am not wrong, but the results of them getting points is obvious, they are not doing anything at all. At the end of the day we are talking about F1 cars here so we just have to just sit down and see what happens. Mercedes will obviously be best again, its obvious and I feel like they are going to get Hamilton his 8th title finally.

[coinlocket$]

We will know more in 10 days we will have the second session of the test and it will be in Bahrain, where they will race the 1st GP so the logistics will be easier and the teams will uncover their final secrets.

The chosen strange days for tests

In March we will have

Thursday 10
Friday 11
Saturday 12

They will be live in streams finally.

[Koal-84]

Ferrari put a ton of work on this year's car so I would guess there is at least some merit into it, they are definitely looking good. However, we need to remember that this is mind games as well, it is not really that easy to make Red Bull scared, they have been quite great for the past 10+ years, and doubt they will start to suck right now.

Maybe the key point where red bull is missing right now is that they were amazing at turns, like on a straight line Mercedes was clearly better but RB always managed to turn faster, whereas Mercedes had to break harder, and that could be not done this year due to car changing shape? Eventually they will surely get there again.

Ferrari focused on the new car early on last season, ok they weren't involved in the title fight, when you're in the title fight you can't put all your resources into next year, you have to develop the current car as well. That was definitely also an advantage for Ferrari last year that they put almost all their resources into the new car. And one of the biggest shortcomings was the Ferrari engine, which has definitely improved.

[Davian144]

You should be able to observe my statement which states that in Qatar there is a change of agenda without prioritizing health protocols, why are you still sticking with the covid 19 rules that were experienced 2 years ago, this has used a new rhythm or was normal before covid, this has a psychological influence on riders so  Riders have passion, this time it's an opportunity for the younger generation.

Just one question from me specifically for you.
Did I say in my previous post about covid19 before you came up with the OFF TOPIC statement so that the understanding spreads to other things?
If you ask me to understand your statement about things that may have nothing to do with what I said before, then your job now is to understand what I said before you comment on my post.

[qwertyup23]

According to Alonso, Ferrari and Mercedes are the 2 fastest car of the tests [...] Also the Redbull boss is "scared" about Ferrari

Mind games imho...  I think those kind of statements from the likes of Horner should start making their rivals a bit worried.  I mean why would Horner say they’re weak if they’re really weak?  It’s like they’re giving up on the season without putting up a fight.  But it could also be an acknowledgement that Ferrari could be in the running for a championship run this season?   I can’t wait!

Yeah, I'd agree with that. If Red Bull are going out of their way to say they're scared of another car, that just makes me think Red Bull are really strong and everyone should be scared of Red Bull.
That said, yes, I'd love to see Ferrari back at the top too... it's where they should be. Is it realistic? Who knows?

Just a quick question, now that pre-season is along the way and most of the teams have tried testing and pushing their car to the limits (achieving that sweet 100-lap spot per car), is it possible to have some changes during the regular seasons? Are there any rules as to the deadline of adding any modifications to their cars; or as long as they comply with the prescribed F1 regulations they can make changes at any time?

Since Redbull is one of the teams that unveiled their cars first, will it be possible that they are hinting some new modifications in the near future?

[Cnut237]

I agree that nothing should be taken seriously during testing.I saw that Mercedes was on top of the tests but also McLaren was doing good together with Redbull with Perez being third.Nothing to be conclusive from such action.

Well, I suppose one thing we can reasonably conclude is that Red Bull are better than they appear - Verstappen is much faster than Perez, so if that is Perez's true position, then Verstappen's true postion should be some way above him.
We could maybe do that with all the teams, we know for most of them which is the better driver of the two. If the worst driver comes top in testing, then the team is better than they appear.

That's my thought, anyway. But maybe I am grasping at straws, desperate to learn something from these tests!

[tokeweed]

According to Alonso, Ferrari and Mercedes are the 2 fastest car of the tests [...] Also the Redbull boss is "scared" about Ferrari

Mind games imho...  I think those kind of statements from the likes of Horner should start making their rivals a bit worried.  I mean why would Horner say they’re weak if they’re really weak?  It’s like they’re giving up on the season without putting up a fight.  But it could also be an acknowledgement that Ferrari could be in the running for a championship run this season?    I can’t wait!

Yeah, I'd agree with that. If Red Bull are going out of their way to say they're scared of another car, that just makes me think Red Bull are really strong and everyone should be scared of Red Bull.
That said, yes, I'd love to see Ferrari back at the top too... it's where they should be. Is it realistic? Who knows?

Yup and if you noticed, every top team is doing it.    It’s like they don’t want the added pressure and attention from the journos writing really great stuff about them.  But really how much should we put some weight in pre season testing?  I don’t think the top teams will push the cars to the limit.  If anything getting  more laps in could be higher priority.  We’ll see at the next one.

And it looks like the cars are bouncing.  They call it ‘porpoising’ and it could be this year’s issue for the teams.  Ferrari doesn’t seem have it tho.

[el kaka22]

It is not going to matter at all if there are covid rules or not. Drivers do not really care about those type of things because they have to literally manage miliseconds worth of decisions, each and every second of their racing is life/death and could be the difference between being the best driver and being the worst. Obviously cars decide a lot for the drivers, Hamilton wouldn't be 7 time world champion with an aston martin or haas .

But at the end of the day, he is the one that drives it and probably only one or two other racers could had 7 in a row with the best car, give it to mazepin and I guarantee you he would not be even in top 3 for most of those seasons.

[Republikcoin.com]

Jorge Lorenzo officially returns to MotoGP. Not as a racer, but as a commentator on DAZN, a television station in Spain.

"I came with humility, I can bring a lot of technical freshness and I know the bike perfectly," said Lorenzo, who joined lex Crivillé and Carlos Checa to form a trio of top-level analysts for MotoGP.

Lorenzo joins lex Crivillé and Carlos Checa (7 world titles between the three) to delve deeper into race analysis in MotoGP, as Mallorcan emphasizes:

“I think I can bring a lot of technical freshness. In fact, in the last four or five years, I've been in all three big brands. I know motorcycles perfectly.”

To kick off the exciting MotoGP Championship, DAZN will broadcast a special program live on Thursday (11:45 local time) with presentations of riders and bikes from all categories. The program will be attended by Jorge Lorenzo, who will also comment on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday sessions and will participate in all pre- and post-race programs.

^{Source: 📰 DAZN - @xfuera.id - https://www.instagram.com/p/CahUVsPJcS5/}

[Koal-84]

As some of you may have read, the "ground effect" is bringing back an old problem that was last seen in the 80s, the so-called "porpoising". When the car sucks itself too far to the ground due to the high speed and sits up. It will certainly be interesting to see which team can tune and reduce this better and at the same time make optimum use of the ground effect in the slow sections.

https://www.focus.de/sport/formel1/autos-huepfen-auf-der-geraden-formel-1-hat-neues-problem-unterschaetzt-porpoising-nacht-ein-bisschen-krank_id_59646297.html

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

Will be interesting which team can handle this at the best.

[RealMalatesta]

As some of you may have read, the "ground effect" is bringing back an old problem that was last seen in the 80s, the so-called "porpoising". When the car sucks itself too far to the ground due to the high speed and sits up. It will certainly be interesting to see which team can tune and reduce this better and at the same time make optimum use of the ground effect in the slow sections.

https://www.focus.de/sport/formel1/autos-huepfen-auf-der-geraden-formel-1-hat-neues-problem-unterschaetzt-porpoising-nacht-ein-bisschen-krank_id_59646297.html

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

Will be interesting which team can handle this at the best.

This shouldn't really be a big problem for them to handle. All they need is a bit more testing, and they could just reduce it based on the angles of the front wing and so forth, they could fail miserably for a while until they just get closer and closer and eventually will be able to find the optimum point.

I am not saying that it is "easy" but more like it is not difficult and takes time but could be done one way or another. That jumping back is not something you have to have, it is not something you are stuck with, adjust the car accordingly and lower the risk of jumping back up. It will be something no team would have by second race I imagine.