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[Davian144]

Darryn Binder has been criticised a lot for going straight from Moto3 to MotoGP, which is almost impossible normally and also not recommended by the character of the bike. But Darryn Binder can only respond on the track and score points without crashing or throwing someone else out, keep it up.

Darryn Binder has also been criticized by other MotoGP riders who are also rookies this year because they think he rides like a Monkey, but once he gets used to the gentle nature of Yamaha's motorbikes, then over time he will also improve if the bike support can be very good.
And at the Race at Mandalika yesterday, Darryn Binder was also hit by his own brother, Brad Binder, but that was considered normal in a race.

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[Fakhrulenclix]

Darryn Binder has been criticised a lot for going straight from Moto3 to MotoGP, which is almost impossible normally and also not recommended by the character of the bike. But Darryn Binder can only respond on the track and score points without crashing or throwing someone else out, keep it up.

Darryn Binder has also been criticized by other MotoGP riders who are also rookies this year because they think he rides like a Monkey, but once he gets used to the gentle nature of Yamaha's motorbikes, then over time he will also improve if the bike support can be very good.
And at the Race at Mandalika yesterday, Darryn Binder was also hit by his own brother, Brad Binder, but that was considered normal in a race.

in the two races that have taken place Darryn Binder played quite well although his riding style is not liked by other riders because it can be dangerous but for himself who is struggling to get points I think he has adapted very well to the moto GP class.
At last weekend's Race the Mandalika Darryn Binder circuit managed to occupy the 10th position and competed tightly with several drivers who were in the middle position, it was a pretty good performance that was shown at the beginning of the season.
I think Darryn Binder this season will be able to surprise with a lot of points and a worthy rookie to be reckoned with.

[Davian144]

in the two races that have taken place Darryn Binder played quite well although his riding style is not liked by other riders because it can be dangerous but for himself who is struggling to get points I think he has adapted very well to the moto GP class.

I've also seen something amazing about Darryn Binder where he was able to adapt very quickly to his bike this year because considering that Yamaha bikes are always easier for everyone to ride.

At last weekend's Race the Mandalika Darryn Binder circuit managed to occupy the 10th position and competed tightly with several drivers who were in the middle position, it was a pretty good performance that was shown at the beginning of the season.
I think Darryn Binder this season will be able to surprise with a lot of points and a worthy rookie to be reckoned with.

If the other Rookies don't immediately adapt to their respective bikes, then it's clear Darryn Binder will be a rider to be reckoned with for Rookie Of The Year.
Because the Rookies are just fighting to get points in every race that will take place and there is no need to target the podium although it would be great to be on the podium like Jorge Martin last year.

[Luzin]

Does anyone really know Marquez's problem, so he can fall 3 times in Mandalika?
Reportedly Michelin used a different tire in the race in Mandalika. They seem to have modified the tires due to the new asphalt effect. Because of the new asphalt and the hot temperature, they add elements to control to keep the tire temperature stable. Is this the problem that caused marquez to fall? There is no official news from Honda. But it seems that they are still looking because they failed to perform, especially Marquez's team because they could not perform in Mandalika. The latest news after reaching Barcelona Marquez difficulty in seeing or diplopia. Marquez has been treated with the disease three times.

Source : https://www.newsdelivers.com/2022/03/21/marc-marquez-horror-accident-at-the-mandalika-circuit-pol-espargaro-accuses-michelin-tires/

[Koal-84]

Darryn Binder has been criticised a lot for going straight from Moto3 to MotoGP, which is almost impossible normally and also not recommended by the character of the bike. But Darryn Binder can only respond on the track and score points without crashing or throwing someone else out, keep it up.

Darryn Binder has also been criticized by other MotoGP riders who are also rookies this year because they think he rides like a Monkey, but once he gets used to the gentle nature of Yamaha's motorbikes, then over time he will also improve if the bike support can be very good.
And at the Race at Mandalika yesterday, Darryn Binder was also hit by his own brother, Brad Binder, but that was considered normal in a race.

It should be clear that in MotoGP things don't always go strictly by the rules in this sport, Darryn Binder will certainly find his way, but he should take it slowly as you write. Marc Marquez has also attacked too aggressively on many occasions and crashed or taken another rider with him, but if it's not intentional and dangerous riding, that's part of the sport. It's a dangerous sport and you have to drive with your brain.

[Cnut237]

I like the fact that this year 3 teams are pretty much on the same level, I think Mercedes can still get something out of their car.

Ferrari and Red Bull are a long long way ahead of Mercedes at the moment. It's 2 teams together who can fight for race wins. Mercedes would have been 1 minute+ back down the road if it hadn't been for the safety car.
Maybe Mercedes can turn it round during the season, but that's a hell of a deficit to try to claw back.

what if [...] Verstappen starts getting frustrated and becomes unhappy

I don't think that's ever going to happen!  
... But seriously, yeah, it's a gamble signing such a long contract, we all know how quickly fortunes can change in F1.

[Koal-84]

I like the fact that this year 3 teams are pretty much on the same level, I think Mercedes can still get something out of their car.

Ferrari and Red Bull are a long long way ahead of Mercedes at the moment. It's 2 teams together who can fight for race wins. Mercedes would have been 1 minute+ back down the road if it hadn't been for the safety car.
Maybe Mercedes can turn it round during the season, but that's a hell of a deficit to try to claw back.

what if [...] Verstappen starts getting frustrated and becomes unhappy

I don't think that's ever going to happen!  
... But seriously, yeah, it's a gamble signing such a long contract, we all know how quickly fortunes can change in F1.

You can't completely write Mercedes off after one race, they're still improving in terms of performance and set-up. I thought the same thing about Yamaha in MotoGP, and at the moment they're not as bad as I expected.

In MotoGP there is a setback for Ducati's development, the front-ride height device will be banned from next season.

https://amp.motorsport-magazin.com/motogp/news-276141-motogp-verbietet-front-ride-height-devices/

[tokeweed]

Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Qualifying - Winner

Leclerc, Charles 2.25

Verstappen, Max 2.75

Sainz Jr, Carlos 7.00

Hamilton, Lewis 10.00

Perez, Sergio 15.00

Russell, George 29.00

Pretty interesting quotes for the winner in qualifying. I think Hamilton does not have a single chance for first place and such coefficients are given to him simply because of the name. I think that he will most likely start the race from 5th place, just like in Bahrain.
I'm still waiting for quotes to appear on who will be the champion at the end of the season  

The outrights on who wins the driver's championship and the constructor's championship will prolly be close between Verstappen and Leclerc with maybe Leclerc and Ferrari slightly favored.  Having no points in the first race is a huge blow for their campaign this year.  Yuuuge.

The market for the outrights isn't up rn but before the season started it was close between Verstappen and Hamilton, with Leclerc line around 6.00 or something if I remember it right.  Could even be slightly more.

As for quali, ugh..  Too close to call.  Betting for either Leclerc or Verstappen will be fun tho.  Lol.

what if [...] Verstappen starts getting frustrated and becomes unhappy

I don't think that's ever going to happen!  
... But seriously, yeah, it's a gamble signing such a long contract, we all know how quickly fortunes can change in F1.

That's not gonna happen if they keep winning.  But a three year drought that starts this year?

[el kaka22]

There is some difference between bad luck and technical malfunctions in such technical types as F1, although of course at times it is almost equivalent You can be a very cool racer, but you can leave the race because of problems with the engine or fuel pump and it is still unknown what this is a design flaw, a staff flaw or really elementary bad luck, which is very difficult to reproduce in another situation. I think Mercedes will still show its real strength during the season, after all, the experience of racing engineers has not gone away, but there have just been some changes in the design of the car.

This is why the argument for "who is the best driver" always falls short. Because in F1 there is a part of luck involved, but even if luck wasn't involved, then we are talking about car difference between teams as well. Mercedes is known to dominate the last 7-8 seasons and that is understandable, but at the same time we have seen Mercedes became a bit worse this year.

They would have been on par with Bottas and Alfa Romeo he is driving. They should be thankful that Max and Perez got out, which I know is part of the game but at the same time something Mercedes couldn't do themselves, so that part was luck involved part and I believe that without any luck, Mercedes may need to get ready for third place this year, let alone being first or second.

[coinlocket$]

He renewed his contract until 2026 I think for 50m/year to prevent the cut for a possible salary cap.

So I can tell you at least 200 million reasons for what he will be not unhappy at all.

[Lantind]

Does anyone really know Marquez's problem, so he can fall 3 times in Mandalika?
Reportedly Michelin used a different tire in the race in Mandalika. They seem to have modified the tires due to the new asphalt effect. Because of the new asphalt and the hot temperature, they add elements to control to keep the tire temperature stable. Is this the problem that caused marquez to fall? There is no official news from Honda. But it seems that they are still looking because they failed to perform, especially Marquez's team because they could not perform in Mandalika. The latest news after reaching Barcelona Marquez difficulty in seeing or diplopia. Marquez has been treated with the disease three times.

Source : https://www.newsdelivers.com/2022/03/21/marc-marquez-horror-accident-at-the-mandalika-circuit-pol-espargaro-accuses-michelin-tires/

As for the Michelin tires themselves, there are slight changes for good traction, but when Marquez crashed for the third time or to be precise in the WUP session, he used a Hard front tire and a Soft rear tire so it was very visible that he seemed to lose control of his bike in the second corner. 7 so that he could experience a highside which caused his motorbike to be destroyed and he himself also had to miss the race at Mandalika.
For the diplopia problem I think it's true because the Honda repsol itself has also confirmed this.

[bestcoins1]

Based on official data from the MotoGP weekend, there were 102,801 spectators who attended the Mandalika circuit

Friday : 9,857
Saturday : 30,021
Sunday : 62,923
^{Source: gpcornercom}

As an Indonesian citizen, I am also very happy with the large number of spectators who were there, it can show that the love of Indonesian citizens for MotoGP is still very large and numerous.

[romero121]

MotoGP rider Dani Pedrosa to debut car racing this year. Spaniard Honda rider with one time 125cc title, two 250cc title and a three time MotoGP runner-up is to compete in a three-round campaign in the Lamborghini Super Trofeo Europe. Once after retiring from MotoGP he served as official test rider for KTM.

Pedrosa will share the team’s Huracan Super Trofeo EVO2 with experienced sportscar driver Antonin Borga at Imola, Misano and the Algarve International Circuit. 

“I'm very happy to start this new adventure with Lamborghini and the FFF Racing Team,” Pedrosa said.

That's an interesting move from a MotoGP ride towards four wheel ride.

[Cnut237]

He renewed his contract until 2026 I think for 50m/year to prevent the cut for a possible salary cap.

So I can tell you at least 200 million reasons for what he will be not unhappy at all.

That's a good point, but it's also true that many drivers out there - Max surely amongst them - would prefer to drive for the winning team rather than the highest paying team. If Red Bull are paying $50m a year and Ferrari are paying say $20m, but the Ferrari is capable of winning titles and the RB is not, then I'm confident that Max would prefer to take the pay cut in order to fight for titles. Same for Hamilton if a faster car paid less than Merc. Same for quite a few drivers I'd imagine.

So a multi-year contract can net you $$$ but lumber you with a slow car. That being said, it looks like a hypothetical scenario at the moment as the RB is clearly up there with Ferrari as the fastest car at the start of 2022.

[Republikcoin.com]

Through GPOne, Tuesday (22/3/2022), Taramasso admitted that he was surprised to hear Puig's words, which he said was not even present at the pre-season test at Mandalika so he did not understand the elements that were the reason his side brought different tires. Taramasso admitted that he had tried to explain the situation thoroughly.

"I was surprised. I tried to give Alberto all the elements that he might not know about. The technical staff of all the teams and the majority of the riders understood him, and no one else complained. So I'm surprised he's the only person who doesn't understand the motivation of changing tires among the crowd. test and race week," he said.

Taramasso said the entire team and rider agreed that the tires provided at Mandalika should prioritize safety over performance, considering that some of the tracks had just been re-paved. They understand the components of the tires used in the tests will not last the race distance. In fact, the race was shortened from 27 to 20 laps only.

"The only technical solution is the casing, which we used in 2017 and 2018, combined with the components from the tests. This case lowers the tire temperature by 15-20 degrees, because the asphalt temperature (Mandalika) reaches 60 degrees and we have never seen such a high temperature. it's in Sepang. Everyone is aware of this, so it's strange that someone doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand," complained Taramasso.

"I was shocked. Some riders (referring to Pol Espargaro) even said that 'tyres from 2018' meant being stored in a warehouse for four years. It takes a lot of imagination to say that, even though these tires were produced after tests. We have also analyzed accident data ( Marquez) and I can rule out the possibility that it was the tires."

^{Source:📰 Bola.net & gpnews.ig}

[imamusma]

After waiting more than two years, Jorge Lorenzo will be officially inducted as a MotoGP Legend and inducted into the Hall of Fame for the 2022 season.

Lorenzo's long wait will end. MotoGP has announced that it will hold a X-Fuera coronation ceremony as a Legend at the Spanish Grand Prix at the Jerez Circuit this year.

^{Source📷 : @jorgelorenzo99 and gpzone.id}

I also wonder why it's only now been crowned as a MotoGP Legend for Jorge Lorenzo, even though it's been more than two years for Jorge Lorenzo to retire from MotoGP.

[swogerino]

There is some difference between bad luck and technical malfunctions in such technical types as F1, although of course at times it is almost equivalent You can be a very cool racer, but you can leave the race because of problems with the engine or fuel pump and it is still unknown what this is a design flaw, a staff flaw or really elementary bad luck, which is very difficult to reproduce in another situation. I think Mercedes will still show its real strength during the season, after all, the experience of racing engineers has not gone away, but there have just been some changes in the design of the car.

This is why the argument for "who is the best driver" always falls short. Because in F1 there is a part of luck involved, but even if luck wasn't involved, then we are talking about car difference between teams as well. Mercedes is known to dominate the last 7-8 seasons and that is understandable, but at the same time we have seen Mercedes became a bit worse this year.

They would have been on par with Bottas and Alfa Romeo he is driving. They should be thankful that Max and Perez got out, which I know is part of the game but at the same time something Mercedes couldn't do themselves, so that part was luck involved part and I believe that without any luck, Mercedes may need to get ready for third place this year, let alone being first or second.

Last year as we saw in the last couple of races of that year luck played a very important role which first made look like Verstappen was going to lose the Championship in Jeddah but then suddenly in Abu Dhabi things turned around and it was only luck with that late Safety Car that netted Verstappen the Championship.In a sport like F1 luck is a major factor as you can't predict who is going to crash and when or if a problem with the engine happens and when the Safety Car will enter the track changing everything.

[tokeweed]

He renewed his contract until 2026 I think for 50m/year to prevent the cut for a possible salary cap.

So I can tell you at least 200 million reasons for what he will be not unhappy at all.

Oh I'm pretty sure he's going to be very happy about the money but I'm talking about what if..  just what if Verstappen doesn't win the driver's championship for the next three seasons and we see Ferrari dominating F1.  What then?  It could be so frustrating for the guy to be stuck in a team he's starting to have doubts on.  It's not all about the money imho.  I'm pretty sure Verstappen didn't sign the contract just for the money.  He wants to win titles.  He's that kind of competitor.  He's no Hulkenberg or some other guy.

[Cnut237]

the argument for "who is the best driver" always falls short. Because in F1 there is a part of luck involved, but even if luck wasn't involved, then we are talking about car difference between teams as well.

It's true that the car plays a part, but it's also true that the best drivers tend to end up at the best teams. This is how Max got a Red Bull drive, for example, and it's why Mercedes ditched Bottas but kept Hamilton. A good driver will usually end up at a good team. A bad driver in a good team will get replaced.

[Luzin]

As for the Michelin tires themselves, there are slight changes for good traction, but when Marquez crashed for the third time or to be precise in the WUP session, he used a Hard front tire and a Soft rear tire so it was very visible that he seemed to lose control of his bike in the second corner.

Did he still use the same type of tire during the fall 3 times? It seems different isn't it, but is this just a tire factor? I am waiting for an explanation from Honda. Michelin in local news has said that it refused as a major factor marquez fell.
Next we will go to Argentina for the next race. Two weeks apart, the last race of 2019 Marquez became champion he also has a record of 5 pole positions in Argentina. Of course, the hope is that Marquez can return to the race in the Argentine series.
Who do you think will win in Argentina?