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April 15, 2022, 09:16:15 AM
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Rossi will remain a legend in MotoGP for a long time, I don't think Marquez (even though he is a very good rider) will ever reach that status. I think Marquez's career will be over soon, I don't think he will be able to become world champion after all the injuries.

In this case I really agree with what you are saying because I also saw several other riders who were unable to win the world championship again after their injuries, for example like Mick Doohan, who in the end the 1999 world champion was taken by his teammate Doohan namely Alex Criville, another example is Casey Stoner, who was injured at the beginning of the 2012 season so he was unable to compete for the world championship at that time, as well as Valentino Rossi, who was injured in 2010 so he was unable to become world champion after that.

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April 15, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
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Toprak Razgatlioglu's concern that Yamaha is not compatible with the MotorLand Aragon Circuit, Spain, has finally been proven.

Since the first round of World Superbike (WSBK) 2022 race on Saturday (9/4/2022) to Superpole Race and Race 2 which was held on Sunday (10/4/2022), the WSBK world champion from Pata Yamaha with Brixx WorldSBK Team was only able to finish P3.

Throughout the weekend in Aragon, Razgatlioglu's Yamaha R1 was unable to match the speed of Alvaro Bautista's flagship Ducati Panigale V4 R and Jonathan Rea's Kawasaki ZX-10RR.

"In conditions like this, third position is good, it's maximum," said Razgatliogu, who was the best Yamaha rider throughout the weekend in Aragon.

In front of a number of reporters he admitted to having problems with the front tire since Saturday. During the Superpole Race on Sunday morning, Razgatlioglu admitted that the situation had started to improve somewhat.

“The problem reappeared in Race 2. My braking was not good. Every now and then the rear tire is lifted so that my deceleration is often not as desired.

“Admittedly, we were never good at this (Aragon) track. So we're just trying to get as many points as possible here."

After mastering two races on Sunday, many remember when Bautista wiped out victories from the initial 11 races of the 2019 WSBK also on the Ducati Panigale V4 R. When asked whether Bautista would be like three years ago, Razgatlioglu answered diplomatically.

“Back then, I could barely see him because he was too far ahead. But this year I will be watching him in every race. Conditions (competition) like this are good. I think we can fight back in Assen (Netherlands) later," said Razgatlioglu.

"I estimate that I will be able to do better in Assen later," said the winner of the 18 races at WSBK.

“The other Yamaha riders chose to use the new electronic system. But I feel more comfortable with the old system.” (Source : motorsport.com / sport.zone_id)

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April 15, 2022, 02:10:10 PM
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Small new for 2026.

As you may know, engines are locked until 2026 but they already talked about it.

The will improve in 4 years giving more power to the Hybrid part.

Redbull now wants to ask FIA to be able to spend more money than the others team because they consider themself a new manufacturer of engines.  Roll Eyes
They are capable of doing that, but I doubt that the engines that they'll make will not have any DNA of Honda engines which they used for a long time. I'm excited with this new season for Ferrari, Merc, and Red Bull. Ferrari and Red Bull so far has been contending for the best car, with Mercedes having some issues lately. Perhaps Red Bull spending more and focusing on creating their new engines will pay off, but Ferrari is still doing their own magic too with their cars.
Technically speaking they removed themselves form Honda, bought the Honda factory that built the F1 engines, and they are building their own engines right now. Is it "red bull engine"? Technically no, it is still Honda engine that is owned by red bull, instead of leased by them yearly.

So, could they spend more on their engine? They could, the rules say that if you are a new engine manufacturer then you should be spending more to catch up, but at the same time this engine was worked on for a decade already, no idea if spending more is needed, the case is for new engine manufacturers and not for improving an already existing engine by someone else. If this is the case, Mercedes could give their engine to McLaren next year or Williams and tell them to spend a lot, and improve, and then get it back year after that and spend more and keep repeating that.

I don’t think they’ll be given the permission, because they brought the Honda factory and this will look like they’re trying to find a loophole within the rules. Also this season Ferrari should be winning most of the races, unless Mercedes can quickly fix their mess, other wise only Red Bill will be left to challenge Ferrari for the title.

We need one to challenge the Ferraris honestly,be it Redbull or Mercedes or even McLaren after showing signs of recovery in the last race which was a very technical track.Redbull have reliability problems which is a big red flag as it can break your race while for example you are winning it.A good thing is at Mercedes we haven't seen reliability problems so most likely as they have promised they will be fighting for victories in the second half of the season which unfortunately for them and the fans will be to late.

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April 15, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
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Small new for 2026.

As you may know, engines are locked until 2026 but they already talked about it.

The will improve in 4 years giving more power to the Hybrid part.


Redbull now wants to ask FIA to be able to spend more money than the others team because they consider themself a new manufacturer of engines.  Roll Eyes

If anything it shows how really weak they are when competing in engine manufacturing vs the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari which the latter is basically F1.  Like it or not, deny it or not Ferrari helped build the foundations of the sport of F1.  On one end I get it, Red Bull needs to spend more for research and development but on the other end, what's fair is fair and it should be denied.

But then again Red Bull knows they will be denied, why bring it up in the first place?  I feel like there's some mind games going on here.  Some talks are also swirling around that there's a Red Bull - Porsche engine tie up on 2026.

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April 15, 2022, 08:42:53 PM
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We need one to challenge the Ferraris honestly,be it Redbull or Mercedes or even McLaren after showing signs of recovery in the last race which was a very technical track.Redbull have reliability problems which is a big red flag as it can break your race while for example you are winning it.A good thing is at Mercedes we haven't seen reliability problems so most likely as they have promised they will be fighting for victories in the second half of the season which unfortunately for them and the fans will be to late.
The problem with the reliability issues is that even though Red Bull has shown that they could win races, and even though if they fail they are the second best at least, Max is like 5th or 6th right now even after winning one race, why? Because, he lost out getting points on two races so far. You are losing 18 points each on races that could have been second even if not first, hell you could finish in top 10 at any place and still get "some" points whereas this way they are getting zero.

So, max already lost out on 2 races, which is bad enough, but if they keep on not being able to finish races, it doesn't matter if they have a good car or not, or good driver or not, if you do not finish, you do not win.
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April 15, 2022, 08:54:29 PM
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F1, we are still missing the Verstappen update but this is the situation about substitutions parts of cars.

Some parts can be changed 3 times, some 4 before going into a penalty.



Source: https://www.formulapassion.it/motorsport/formula-1/tabella-sostituzioni-power-unit-melbourne-613416.html

Alonso and Tsunoda are already in their last component.

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Yesterday or rather six days ago was a very good day for Ducati!

In MotoGP, Enea Bastianini successfully won and Jack Miller also managed to secure the third podium.

In WorldSBK, Aruba.it Racing Ducati's new and old-school racer, Alvaro Bautista, was not overtaken by his opponents in Race 2 of the Aragon series.

Then in the MotoAmerica event, former MotoGP racer, Danilo Petrucci, managed to secure another victory in Race 2 of the COTA series. Source: gpracingindonesia

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F1, we are still missing the Verstappen update but this is the situation about substitutions parts of cars.

Some parts can be changed 3 times, some 4 before going into a penalty.

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Alonso and Tsunoda are already in their last component.

The high part change in Fernando Alonso's car draws a lot of attention, he is already in the third engine for the start of the season, I hope they fixed this problem once and for all.

I believe that the high exchange of parts at the beginning of the season is justified by the big changes in the cars that F1 has had this season.

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April 16, 2022, 03:05:13 AM
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Ducati tops the constructors' standings after the first 4 races of the season.

When compared to last season, KTM has increased significantly while Yamaha is the opposite. source: gpcornercom

Aprilia and Suzuki also didn't have any significant changes, but Honda was a bit worse compared to last season after the first 4 series this year, how do you all guys react ?

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We need one to challenge the Ferraris honestly,be it Redbull or Mercedes or even McLaren after showing signs of recovery in the last race which was a very technical track.Redbull have reliability problems which is a big red flag as it can break your race while for example you are winning it.A good thing is at Mercedes we haven't seen reliability problems so most likely as they have promised they will be fighting for victories in the second half of the season which unfortunately for them and the fans will be to late.
The problem with the reliability issues is that even though Red Bull has shown that they could win races, and even though if they fail they are the second best at least, Max is like 5th or 6th right now even after winning one race, why? Because, he lost out getting points on two races so far. You are losing 18 points each on races that could have been second even if not first, hell you could finish in top 10 at any place and still get "some" points whereas this way they are getting zero.

So, max already lost out on 2 races, which is bad enough, but if they keep on not being able to finish races, it doesn't matter if they have a good car or not, or good driver or not, if you do not finish, you do not win.

Am I the only one thinking that Ferrari was going to dominate anyway even if Red Bull didn't have reliability issues?  It seems like the narrative the journalists want to sell us is 'it will close season between Ferrari and Red Bull if not for the reliability issues' when it's pretty obvious Ferrari has the better package.

And that race Verstappen won was situational.  It took two yellow flags to help him close the gap with Leclerc.

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April 16, 2022, 06:41:21 PM
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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

It has everything to do with the new rules introduced by F1. It seems to be a fight between Verstappen and Leclerc, but we would rather see that than another fight between Hamilton and Verstappen. I wouldn't write off Mercedes just yet. If they can find the right composition and change of the car, there is no one better than Hamilton who can achieve the greatest performance with that car. We've only had 3 races, but the start is promising for Ferrari, a dream start. Red Bull will be very disappointed with those 2 failures.

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April 16, 2022, 07:28:01 PM
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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

What makes the big difference between Ferrari and Red Bull at the moment is the fact that Ferrari seems to have absolutely no problems in term of reliability so far, while Verstappen had to stop the car before the end of the race two times already now. In terms of pace i think Red Bull and Ferrari are pretty close to each other at the moment, maybe also a little advantage for Ferrari here, but on specific tracks where the top speed matters more Red Bull could be in front.
Looking at the current standings now Hamilton is in front of Verstappen because the mercedes seems to be reliable at least. Red Bull really needs to fix this problems very soon or they won't win a championship this year.
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April 16, 2022, 07:35:52 PM
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I have heard some news like Ferrari engineers are working on increasing the engine power of their car by 10 hp. Ferrari's car is already the best one in the grid for sure. They are the fastest even though Red Bull are really close to them. And Ferrari still want to do better and dominate the season even more than this. But I'm really contented with seeing them this much powerful also. Because I was bored of seeing Mercedes being dominant most of the time. Ferrari's time has come finally!

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April 16, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
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Ferrari certainly has the best package at the moment in terms of performance and reliability, in the corners the Ferrari is very fast and on the straights they have a reliable and strong power unit. RedBull is slightly faster on the straights, which is actually unusual, but the power unit is not reliable enough to always be operated at the limit. If there are more defects, there will soon be a penalty for RedBull.

Mercedes does not yet understand the porposing exactly, but in the last race Hamilton had sensors on the car, which is not usual to understand it better. Will be an exciting season with no advantages for Ferrari.

For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.

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Manager Fabio Quartararo, Eric Mahe, said that currently only Honda and Ducati were able to fulfill the wishes of the 2021 MotoGP world champion.

"We are not in a hurry. Our job now is to study all the offers and see what the situation is like," said Mahe, some time ago.
Fabio Quartararo added: "I am ready for any offer that gives the best bike to be able to compete for the title."

The racer market for MotoGP 2023 is likely to be started by Fabio Quartararo, one of the riders that teams want the most at the moment. Teams have always been looking for good drivers at a price (read: salary) that they can reach.

The problem is, Quartararo is now not just looking for a manufacturer that is able to provide him with a competitive motorcycle package. The 22-year-old racer also wants a fantastic salary.

As revealed by the Italian media, Corriere dello Sport, Quartararo wants a contract with a double-digit value in other words tens of millions of euros.

Even though the public has always known that the contract with the number zero seven is currently only owned by Marc Marquez in the Honda Racing Corporation (Repsol Honda) factory team. Or, when Ducati “hijacked” Jorge Lorenzo from Yamaha in 2017.

Yamaha itself has said it is ready to meet Quartararo's request. The reason is, only Quartararo is now able to fly the Yamaha flag in MotoGP.
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For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.

Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481


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April 17, 2022, 03:37:07 PM
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Marc Marquez warns Honda about the performance of the RC213V. He continues to find the weaknesses of the bike used to conquer the 2022 MotoGP.
In the pre-season test, the RC213V was predicted to be able to make them a champion challenger. However, as the competition progressed, their performance slackened.
The six-edition MotoGP champion is still having trouble controlling the bike in the middle of an update. The bigger grip at the back has consequences that make it difficult for Honda riders, including Marquez.

“This bike is the opposite of last year. We have to understand the right path," said the Repsol Honda rider.

"I've already told Honda what needs to be done if we want to be competitive in the next few races. It is true that Pol Espargaro performed well on several tracks.

“Takaaki Nakagami has also performed well on certain circuits. However, we still have some weaknesses.”

After missing the Argentine MotoGP, Marquez forced himself down in Austin, United States. Circuit of The Americas (COTA) is one of his favorite tracks.

Last weekend, he managed to dart from the back and finish to sixth position.

"After trying different things in Austin, I said, 'This is the way' and we have to move forward," he said.

"Now, we have to understand our level on the European circuit. I don't think that we can fight for victory in every race. But it's important to see how weak the bike is at a circuit I'm very familiar with."

Questions about predictions about the next race arose. Will the track in Europe be difficult for Honda or not ? Source: motorsport.com & sport.zone_id

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April 17, 2022, 04:14:18 PM
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For Imola, RedBull is rumored to bring a new big update on his suspension.

Ferrari however is rumored to have 0 updates but hard work on proposing.

Ferrari is also rumored to have an engine upgrade to fight the top speed of Redbull with then engine 2, and if nothing happens will be in Barcelona.

Exactly, that's what I read too. Ferrari is only working on setup and porposing because of the sprint race at Imola due to limited time. According to Binotto there is no time to test new components and understand them because Friday is already the qualifying for the sprint race.

Do Ferrari still have a joker and may still improve the MGU-K?

https://de.motorsport.com/f1/news/warum-ferrari-keine-updates-zum-heimrennen-nach-imola-bringt-22041605/9959481



Let's hope that new massive update on the suspension from Redbull makes them somewhat better,at least to the level where the cars be equal in performance and at such scenario only the drivers bravery will decide which one will win the race.As far as I recall didn't Mercedes won a lot of races in their beginning era of winning races because of the better MGU-K or am I mistaken?

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April 17, 2022, 05:03:12 PM
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Andrea Dovizioso is not sure that Yamaha will soon make an update to address the problem of the lack of rear tire grip, for the sake of their future.

“The work to be done on these aspects, in order to improve grip, will definitely be very complex. It will definitely take time.

"Honestly, I don't believe there will be significant development in the near future to understand the direction of improvement and development. I didn't really expect that. But there will be a meeting soon, so, I will get information.”

Andrea Dovizioso also added, what he can do now is to adapt to the bike as best as possible.

“After all, we have fallen too far behind. Even if we succeed, even if a little, our gap is too big,” said Dovi. Source: Motorsport.com / gpnews.ig


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