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[Distraction]

It was really hell of a race! Verstappen had a very unfortunate race first of all. And Perez had the similar experience too. Both of them were out of the race while we were getting to the end. And Red Bull said that it was a problem related to fuel pump. And this race was so special for Ferrari and Leclerc. I appreciate Leclerc's solid performance here a lot. And it looks like this season is going to be Ferrari's season. By the way, Hamilton was so lucky about ending the race at the 3rd place too. But it looks like this is going to be a troubling season for Mercedes for now.

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[LTU_btc]

Damn, what a season opener. Well deserved win for Leclerc, but his fight with Verstappen in first part of race was epic. There is concerning things for Red Bull - it's not about the pace, but 3 of 4 their cars haven't reached finish after engine related issues.
I think Mercedes should be happy about today's result - P3 and P4 is best what they can achieve now.
What a return for Magnussen - P5. Can someone imagine Mazepin in P5? And solid debut for Zhou, point in his 1st race.
It's only sad to see Mclaren, who aren't competetive at all yet.
Next race in Jeddah is next weekend already!

[Cnut237]

There is concerning things for Red Bull - it's not about the pace, but 3 of 4 their cars haven't reached finish after engine related issues.

I've just heard that the FIA have changed the rules, so whoever retires from second place a couple of laps from the end is declared the winner.

It's only sad to see Mclaren, who aren't competetive at all yet.

Yeah. I really wanted them to do well. It's not looking great for them at the moment. But anyway, nice to see Ferrari back where they belong.

What a return for Magnussen - P5.

My favourite thing from the race, I think. He deserves a drive and this was brilliant.

[swogerino]

Next race in Jeddah is next weekend already!

That track is wonderful and super fast.The cars,the new cars of 2022 were a lot closer to each other and during this first race there were almost always different battles going on in different part of the track of Bahrain.In a track like in Saudi Arabia this is going to be even more emphasized.In theory that track should be in favor of Redbull as although Ferrari won today they had the fastest straight speed from what I saw.

Catastrophic result for McLaren and it looks like they missed completely with the new regulations,there is still time to recover but as they say the sun can be seen since early morning (McLaren fan here).

[coinlocket$]

That track is wonderful and super fast.The cars,the new cars of 2022 were a lot closer to each other and during this first race there were almost always different battles going on in different part of the track of Bahrain.In a track like in Saudi Arabia this is going to be even more emphasized.In theory that track should be in favor of Redbull as although Ferrari won today they had the fastest straight speed from what I saw.

Catastrophic result for McLaren and it looks like they missed completely with the new regulations,there is still time to recover but as they say the sun can be seen since early morning (McLaren fan here).

That track will be more dangerous with these cars than in the past year.

With the vacuum created this year with a small error, you will be in the barrier 1000% of the time.

[AndySt]

It was really hell of a race! Verstappen had a very unfortunate race first of all. And Perez had the similar experience too. Both of them were out of the race while we were getting to the end. And Red Bull said that it was a problem related to fuel pump. And this race was so special for Ferrari and Leclerc. I appreciate Leclerc's solid performance here a lot. And it looks like this season is going to be Ferrari's season. By the way, Hamilton was so lucky about ending the race at the 3rd place too. But it looks like this is going to be a troubling season for Mercedes for now.

Let's not forget that Mercedes had problems last season, but the team was able to cope with them and make a competitive car for the second part of the season Therefore, of course, Mercedes fans should be worried, but it's still too early to draw conclusions from the results of the first race of the season. As for the Red Bull, I would like to recall the situation of last season, when the cars had good speed, which was achieved by less reliability of the car, so I'm afraid that no matter how this situation happened again. But in any case, there has been a change of regulations and it is foolish to expect that the teams will not have problems with the reliability and settings of their cars.

[Uang_kartal]

redbull and mercedes are very elite clubs and sponsors in the world of sports, especially the f1 speed competition. setting redbull get one of them here which won 8 victories last year. we know mercedes did have a history of victory in 1952 and had a winning reputation from history, indeed mercedes excelled but in the near future it won't win in a row like redbull, a circuit that supports a solid team and The professionalism of the racers in conquering each route is a good achievement for Redbull, I'm happy. Whatever the analysis, friends, let us know from every season that has passed.

[Davian144]

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There weren't many surprises from the MotoGp rookies this season, but in terms of achieving the number of points, Darryn Binder had a chance to fight back in terms of taking the top 10 position yesterday in the race at the Mandalika circuit.
And he managed to finish in 10th place so he could get 6 points in yesterday's Race, while Remy Gardner did not get any points after finishing at the bottom even though he did get 1 point at the Qatar Grandprix after finishing 15th.

[FanEagle]

Formula 2 is definitely 100 years behind F1 right now. Today’s despicable showing proved us that money going into formula is very little for what it could actually achieve. Since it is not a program that makes enough profit, and constantly loses money (big clubs loses like 2-3 million euro per year) that means we do not have the best of the best there.

We have whatever and whoever they can afford to. The tire going off, the constantly failing of putting on the tires. VIPs for example would have been the clear winner today if team didn't screw it up, dude definitely deserved it. Pit was horrible today in almost every team and sad to see.

[Koal-84]

There weren't many surprises from the MotoGp rookies this season, but in terms of achieving the number of points, Darryn Binder had a chance to fight back in terms of taking the top 10 position yesterday in the race at the Mandalika circuit.
And he managed to finish in 10th place so he could get 6 points in yesterday's Race, while Remy Gardner did not get any points after finishing at the bottom even though he did get 1 point at the Qatar Grandprix after finishing 15th.

Darryn Binder has been criticised a lot for going straight from Moto3 to MotoGP, which is almost impossible normally and also not recommended by the character of the bike. But Darryn Binder can only respond on the track and score points without crashing or throwing someone else out, keep it up.

Report from last year about Darryn Binder from other MotoGP riders.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/motogp/news-274237-eklat-um-motogp-aufsteiger-darryn-binder-das-sagen-die-stars/

[AakZaki]

I certainly hope that the injury he suffered will improve soon so that he can return to participate in the moto GP event. btw, the rain this afternoon (eastern Indonesia time) really delayed a lot of time and thank goodness the rain stopped before nightfall.

This is a snapshot of the lightning that struck the circuit during the rain earlier, fortunately, there were no casualties https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1505482724601176064

It's quite sad because of Marquez, the news I heard he has a brain injury. Indeed, if you see the fall, it is really terrible. It seems that the left right double bend is quite difficult if the motor engine is still in high speed, it needs braking quite hard there.  May he recover soon, he is still able to compete but his fate is unlucky.
For the net of the race, yes I guess the big power bike will dominate the result of the race a lot, this is evident. It seems that the rain is enough to make the race even more interesting. You may also be surprised that there are some television broadcasts that show the activities of a woman walking in the rain shouting and making unusual movements. Yes it's customary / diversity indonesia they beg the rain to stop immediately.

[Koal-84]

It was really hell of a race! Verstappen had a very unfortunate race first of all. And Perez had the similar experience too. Both of them were out of the race while we were getting to the end. And Red Bull said that it was a problem related to fuel pump. And this race was so special for Ferrari and Leclerc. I appreciate Leclerc's solid performance here a lot. And it looks like this season is going to be Ferrari's season. By the way, Hamilton was so lucky about ending the race at the 3rd place too. But it looks like this is going to be a troubling season for Mercedes for now.

Basically you can say the performance of RedBull is very good and not far behind Ferrari, I like the fact that this year 3 teams are pretty much on the same level, I think Mercedes can still get something out of their car. Only thing that will give RedBull a headache is the stability of the Honda engine or the drive technology in general, 3/4 failure of the drive unit is very worrying and that at the first race.

[tokeweed]

^  This could be bad omen for Verstappen...  And he just signed a new contract tying him with with the team until 2028 too.  He should've kept his option open by after the third year as we really don't know what's going to happen.

I don't think it's going to be a major issue, I mean the two Red Bulls almost made it to the end. It's a concern, yes, but I think they'll fix it. They have a great car.

I know.  I was just thinking with the advent of Ferrari, what if it's three years of domination and that Verstappen starts getting frustrated and becomes unhappy with the team...  Something else can also happen, what if Adrian Newey retires and they get not so competitive cars.  Verstappen might have over commited.  Not even Hamilton would lock himself in a 6 year contract.  But maybe there's a clause.

But yeah I'm pretty sure RBR will come back better for the next race. 

And I was wrong.  For some reason I thought Alpha Tauri had Ferrari engines again this year.  Anyway, yeah..  It's hard to get behind Verstappen from a betting perspective with the reliability issues.

[Distraction]

It was really hell of a race! Verstappen had a very unfortunate race first of all. And Perez had the similar experience too. Both of them were out of the race while we were getting to the end. And Red Bull said that it was a problem related to fuel pump. And this race was so special for Ferrari and Leclerc. I appreciate Leclerc's solid performance here a lot. And it looks like this season is going to be Ferrari's season. By the way, Hamilton was so lucky about ending the race at the 3rd place too. But it looks like this is going to be a troubling season for Mercedes for now.

Basically you can say the performance of RedBull is very good and not far behind Ferrari, I like the fact that this year 3 teams are pretty much on the same level, I think Mercedes can still get something out of their car. Only thing that will give RedBull a headache is the stability of the Honda engine or the drive technology in general, 3/4 failure of the drive unit is very worrying and that at the first race.

And the interesting part was that three drivers who were driving a car that had a Honda engine were out of the race. This makes me think about whether this was just a coincidence or the engines had a role in this situation too. But I guess that it is about a completely different problem like they indicated. Anyway, I hope that Red Bull drivers can return much stronger than this. I'm sure about Verstappen to use this as a motivation for himself and fight harder from now on. Red Bull is not much slower than Ferrari so we can see a serious competition between these constructors.

[KTChampions]

Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Qualifying - Winner

Leclerc, Charles 2.25

Verstappen, Max 2.75

Sainz Jr, Carlos 7.00

Hamilton, Lewis 10.00

Perez, Sergio 15.00

Russell, George 29.00

Pretty interesting quotes for the winner in qualifying. I think Hamilton does not have a single chance for first place and such coefficients are given to him simply because of the name. I think that he will most likely start the race from 5th place, just like in Bahrain.
I'm still waiting for quotes to appear on who will be the champion at the end of the season 

[ropyu1978]

The racer Marc Marquez again had a terrible accident, in the Mandalika MotoGP warm-up session, on Sunday 20 March 2022, Marquez had a highside at corner seven and was thrown into the air, Marquez failed to control the back of his motorbike, after the accident Marquez's motorbike was crushed in the front, previously Marquez twice had an accident at Mandalika, namely at corners 12 and 13 in the qualifying round on Saturday, in the warm-up session Marquez was able to be in 4th position, hopefully Marquez can quickly return to racing, because all fans will miss him, if Ng da Marquez is definitely lacking exciting.

[qwertyup23]

It was really hell of a race! Verstappen had a very unfortunate race first of all. And Perez had the similar experience too. Both of them were out of the race while we were getting to the end. And Red Bull said that it was a problem related to fuel pump. And this race was so special for Ferrari and Leclerc. I appreciate Leclerc's solid performance here a lot. And it looks like this season is going to be Ferrari's season. By the way, Hamilton was so lucky about ending the race at the 3rd place too. But it looks like this is going to be a troubling season for Mercedes for now.

Basically you can say the performance of RedBull is very good and not far behind Ferrari, I like the fact that this year 3 teams are pretty much on the same level, I think Mercedes can still get something out of their car. Only thing that will give RedBull a headache is the stability of the Honda engine or the drive technology in general, 3/4 failure of the drive unit is very worrying and that at the first race.

And the interesting part was that three drivers who were driving a car that had a Honda engine were out of the race. This makes me think about whether this was just a coincidence or the engines had a role in this situation too. But I guess that it is about a completely different problem like they indicated. Anyway, I hope that Red Bull drivers can return much stronger than this. I'm sure about Verstappen to use this as a motivation for himself and fight harder from now on. Red Bull is not much slower than Ferrari so we can see a serious competition between these constructors.

Despite the engine failure from the car of Verstappen, we cannot discount the efforts of the two (2) Ferraris as this is their first 1-2 finish after some years! This really shows that this season would be the perfect test in order to observe the reluctance and pioneered engineering of the teams to significantly improve the aerodynamics of their respective cars.

The fact that Haas was able to outlap Russel in this Bahrain's GP says a lot about Magnussen's experience as a driver. So happy that Ferrari was able to get that 1-2 finish as this team was somehow silent over the past years.

[fullhdpixel]

Formula 2 is definitely 100 years behind F1 right now. Today’s despicable showing proved us that money going into formula is very little for what it could actually achieve. Since it is not a program that makes enough profit, and constantly loses money (big clubs loses like 2-3 million euro per year) that means we do not have the best of the best there.

We have whatever and whoever they can afford to. The tire going off, the constantly failing of putting on the tires. VIPs for example would have been the clear winner today if team didn't screw it up, dude definitely deserved it. Pit was horrible today in almost every team and sad to see.

The price difference between the two leagues is staggering which shows itself during the races as well. It is understandable that one or two teams may have problems, look at Red Bull in f1, they had a problem as well. However, seeing like multiple pit stop slowness, and then seeing multiple pitstop... stops then you realized that at least 7-8 racers were impacted because of this, some retired, some had worse results then they deserved.

All in all I would say that F2 is still coming along, they do not make too much money because there are not that many teams that make any money, it is all a big loss for teams financially, hence why it is hard to keep the league going let alone make it a good one.

[VanityWallets2015]

This is going to be a fun season. Mercedes seems to be behind the times, they didn't stand a chance last weekend. Every course is different of course. Red Bull had some technical problems with Verstappen's engine, but that seems to be bad luck and not something structural. I suspect it will be between LeClerc and Verstappen this year, for Hamilton it will be very difficult to make something of it. Hamilton's podium finish was also pure luck as Verstappen and Perez both retired due to bad luck.

[AndySt]

This is going to be a fun season. Mercedes seems to be behind the times, they didn't stand a chance last weekend. Every course is different of course. Red Bull had some technical problems with Verstappen's engine, but that seems to be bad luck and not something structural. I suspect it will be between LeClerc and Verstappen this year, for Hamilton it will be very difficult to make something of it. Hamilton's podium finish was also pure luck as Verstappen and Perez both retired due to bad luck.

There is some difference between bad luck and technical malfunctions in such technical types as F1, although of course at times it is almost equivalent You can be a very cool racer, but you can leave the race because of problems with the engine or fuel pump and it is still unknown what this is a design flaw, a staff flaw or really elementary bad luck, which is very difficult to reproduce in another situation. I think Mercedes will still show its real strength during the season, after all, the experience of racing engineers has not gone away, but there have just been some changes in the design of the car.