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[Juggy777]

Gerhard Berger spoke yesterday and he said interesting things.

According to him:

Hamilton could retire after this season

Porsche has a deal done with Redbull for joining the F1

Yup exciting times ahead for Red Bull Racing but I think we'll have to wait for another 4 years tho when the engine freeze is lifted.  Porsche bought 50% of RBR but I think Porsche has its hands tied and could do nothing for the team as of yet.  Not sure up to what extent Porsche could help the team at a technical level.

And on the rumor about Hamilton's 'retirement' I think it could depend on Mercedes' car development.  If they improve it as the season goes by, Hamilton might run with his contract til 2023.  He could retire then but I'm hoping to see him back where it started...  At McLaren.  

I would also love to see him back at McLaren.Michael Schumacher in the end of his career he joined Mercedes a German team to give his expertise in developing the car and it was mostly because of him that Mercedes in the year 2014 and up had a winning car,Schumi invested a couple of years developing the car together with the technical team.Now with all the experience Hamilton has he could do the same as a bare minimum for McLaren but I would like to see him win another title with McLaren before he quits.

@swogerino I wouldn’t be surprised if Hamilton called it quits, because even if Mercedes do improve their car his confidence looks shattered, plus Max and Leclerc are only getting better with each and every race hence it makes sense for him to quit at the end of the season. Furthermore even if he continues I don’t expect him to win, and I believe that he’s already achieved his legacy, hence no one will mind if he decides to retire but I hope that he yet remains a part of F1 in some capacity.

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[1kodumtek7]

We are in another race week in F1 thankfully. We are going to watch the first ever Miami GP at the weekend. I must also add an information like I'm not satisfied with the track already now. But it is going to be easier to rethink about it when the first event starts. But it is obvious that this won't be one of the tracks that are beloved. I wonder who will be able to win this race. The favourites would be Leclerc and Verstappen again as usual. But it is still early to say that as F1 is always full of surprises. 

[tokeweed]

Gerhard Berger spoke yesterday and he said interesting things.

According to him:

Hamilton could retire after this season

Porsche has a deal done with Redbull for joining the F1

Yup exciting times ahead for Red Bull Racing but I think we'll have to wait for another 4 years tho when the engine freeze is lifted.  Porsche bought 50% of RBR but I think Porsche has its hands tied and could do nothing for the team as of yet.  Not sure up to what extent Porsche could help the team at a technical level.

And on the rumor about Hamilton's 'retirement' I think it could depend on Mercedes' car development.  If they improve it as the season goes by, Hamilton might run with his contract til 2023.  He could retire then but I'm hoping to see him back where it started...  At McLaren.  

I would also love to see him back at McLaren.Michael Schumacher in the end of his career he joined Mercedes a German team to give his expertise in developing the car and it was mostly because of him that Mercedes in the year 2014 and up had a winning car,Schumi invested a couple of years developing the car together with the technical team.Now with all the experience Hamilton has he could do the same as a bare minimum for McLaren but I would like to see him win another title with McLaren before he quits.

I don't think that's right...  It wasn't really Schumacher's expertise that shot Mercedes up to dominate F1 starting 2014.  It was the engine rule change from the V8 aspirated engines to the V6 turbo that gave Mercedes the edge as the technical team had more advanced R&D with the V6 than the rest of the teams.  

And there's a difference between Schumacher's switch to Mercedes and if Hamilton returned to McLaren.  Hamilton was groomed by McLaren since his karting days so it's going to be like a homecoming.  Schumacher went to Merc mostly because of Ross Brawn and had a good working relationship with him when they were at Benneton and Ferrari.  I'm not sure so feel free to correct me but I think he was.

[LTU_btc]

What a great Monaco GP poster in GTA Vice City style

There will be 3 DRS zones in this track, so, we probably won't see lack of overtakes like in Imola.

[Koal-84]

There are rumours of Suzuki pulling out after this season, and Dorna has now officially asked Suzuki to what extent this would be possible and whether a unilateral termination of the existing contract is not possible.

It would be a great pity if Suzuki left MotoGP, especially after the last world championship title.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/03/statement-from-dorna-sports-regarding-suzuki/419795

[Spack17]

Indeed, I loved the poster prepared for the Miami GP.    As it is in Miami, it wouldn't be good not to mention Grand Theft Auto.    Anyway, I'm excited about this race in some way but we will see if we will have an exciting race here. I hope that the drivers would come here very ambitiously and we would watch a solid race. I feel like Verstappen will win another race here and Leclerc will finish right behind him but let's see. And I hope we can see some improvement from Mercedes drivers too.

[Cnut237]

Michael Schumacher in the end of his career he joined Mercedes a German team to give his expertise in developing the car and it was mostly because of him that Mercedes in the year 2014 and up had a winning car,Schumi invested a couple of years developing the car together with the technical team.Now with all the experience Hamilton has he could do the same as a bare minimum for McLaren but I would like to see him win another title with McLaren before he quits.

I don't think that's right...  It wasn't really Schumacher's expertise that shot Mercedes up to dominate F1 starting 2014.  It was the engine rule change from the V8 aspirated engines to the V6 turbo that gave Mercedes the edge as the technical team had more advanced R&D with the V6 than the rest of the teams.  

Yes, definitely it was the engine change and Merc's technical edge that propelled them to the front of the field in the last era. I wouldn't credit Schumacher with much if anything there.
As for Hamilton moving or retiring, I think what he wants is that 8th title. If that doesn't look achievable at Mercedes, I can't see him going to another also-ran team if the car can't compete, even McLaren. What would be his motivation?

[Republikcoin.com]

There are rumours of Suzuki pulling out after this season, and Dorna has now officially asked Suzuki to what extent this would be possible and whether a unilateral termination of the existing contract is not possible.

It would be a great pity if Suzuki left MotoGP, especially after the last world championship title.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/03/statement-from-dorna-sports-regarding-suzuki/419795

I also regret that if this actually happens, because basically Suzuki itself has also signed a contract with Dorna until 2026 to compete in MotoGP, but only because of economic factors that are no longer possible, Suzuki must make a statement like this in order to withdraw himself from MotoGP.
Hopefully, Suzuki will still be there next year with a better update, because Suzuki has a very good motorbike in terms of handling and stability at corner speed, so it would be a shame if they had to leave MotoGP.

[Cnut237]

What a great Monaco GP poster in GTA Vice City style

It is a good poster, yeah. One thing I don't understand is why the guy from Ghostbusters is in it.

[bestcoins1]

but I think it's all inseparable from the skill of Fabio Quartararo who is able to ride a Yamaha motorbike very well, maybe it's all because last season he was also with Yamaha so he already got a very good feeling.
different from Morbidelli who was unable to compete even though he was scattered in the back row even though he was using the same motorbike as Fabio.

Morbidelli hasn't had the perfect feeling for the Yamaha bike this year so he's clearly lagging behind with the rookies, as well as the other riders who are also going through the same thing as Morbidelli's where there are some riders adjusting to the bike this year.

The Aprilia that Alex has used this season is really fantastic, now he is in 2nd place in the standings to win the world championship and he has already got 3x podiums from 6 series this season.

Now look at Maverick Vinales who also rides the same bike as Alex, I see that the two are very different in every race that only an Alex is really seen in Aprilia, as well as Honda where Pol Espargaro also shares the same fate as Maverick Vinales .

[safari88]

This week we will also continue with F1. I am very curious whether Mercedes can get a good car on the track this time. They are really the big losers of the season so far, and have little perspective. it must be horrible for hamilton to drive a car that doesn't do what it wants. Mercedes is not even close to the championship. If this continues, there is a chance that he will be gone from Mercedes next season. But not at Ferrari or Red Bull I think.

[Davidvictorson]

Morbidelli hasn't had the perfect feeling for the Yamaha bike this year so he's clearly lagging behind with the rookies, as well as the other riders who are also going through the same thing as Morbidelli's where there are some riders adjusting to the bike this year.

I hope that Yamaha will be able to overcome its deficiencies to a certain extent. Aside that, I don't think it'll be enough for the Championship. Puig is right, if honda hadn't given MM93 a bike that have to be riden beyond the limits in e every race he may not have had all the crashes and nearly ending his career!

[Republikcoin.com]

The Speed Up Racing team has officially ended their partnership with one of the drivers, Romano Fenati. Most likely the cause is Fenati's performance which has not been competitive after just 6 races that have just been undertaken.

Fenati is scheduled to be replaced by Fermin Aldeguer's teammate at FIM CEV Moto2 last season, namely Alonso Lopez.
This is not the first time the Speed Up Racing Team has changed drivers during the season. Last season, this happened to Yari Montella who was replaced by Fermin Aldeguer. _{Source: gpracingindonesia}

[tokeweed]

Michael Schumacher in the end of his career he joined Mercedes a German team to give his expertise in developing the car and it was mostly because of him that Mercedes in the year 2014 and up had a winning car,Schumi invested a couple of years developing the car together with the technical team.Now with all the experience Hamilton has he could do the same as a bare minimum for McLaren but I would like to see him win another title with McLaren before he quits.

I don't think that's right...  It wasn't really Schumacher's expertise that shot Mercedes up to dominate F1 starting 2014.  It was the engine rule change from the V8 aspirated engines to the V6 turbo that gave Mercedes the edge as the technical team had more advanced R&D with the V6 than the rest of the teams.  

Yes, definitely it was the engine change and Merc's technical edge that propelled them to the front of the field in the last era. I wouldn't credit Schumacher with much if anything there.
As for Hamilton moving or retiring, I think what he wants is that 8th title. If that doesn't look achievable at Mercedes, I can't see him going to another also-ran team if the car can't compete, even McLaren. What would be his motivation?

I don't know.  I'm thinking just like most athletes there comes a time when they start to accept their place and their contribution to whatever sport they're in.  But at the same time some of them doesn't want to retire just yet.  So yeah, McLaren would surely a be good destination.  I'm pretty sure the fans would love it.  I'm a Hamilton hater but I'd love to see it too.  But all in all dunno...  He could retire too.

The line for Verstappen to win is 1.97, Lecerc 2.40.  Grid position of winner, pole is at 2.00.  That seems like a straightforward bet.

[Luzin]

I also regret that if this actually happens, because basically Suzuki itself has also signed a contract with Dorna until 2026 to compete in MotoGP, but only because of economic factors that are no longer possible, Suzuki must make a statement like this in order to withdraw himself from MotoGP.
Hopefully, Suzuki will still be there next year with a better update, because Suzuki has a very good motorbike in terms of handling and stability at corner speed, so it would be a shame if they had to leave MotoGP.

Anything can happen, if you read some news in the local media it's all due to costs. Suzuki has been back in MotoGP since 2015 and they don't have a major sponsor. So I think it's only natural that they can leave, especially since the global crisis caused by COVID-19 may still have an impact today. However, there has been no official statement from Suzuki so far, and even Dorna has not provided any clarification regarding this.

Of course the contract with Dorna could have ended if they didn't have a solution. Because Money is an important factor in the running of every Team in the race. Because the cost of each race I think is enormous. If Suzuki doesn't have the money and doesn't get a sponsor, maybe they might be replaced by another team.

[Cnut237]

This week we will also continue with F1. I am very curious whether Mercedes can get a good car on the track this time. They are really the big losers of the season so far, and have little perspective. it must be horrible for hamilton to drive a car that doesn't do what it wants. Mercedes is not even close to the championship. If this continues, there is a chance that he will be gone from Mercedes next season. But not at Ferrari or Red Bull I think.

The speculation is that they are using this weekend for "experiments" to determine how to fix the car. Not sure if any of this will involve real upgrades, but I think it's extremely unlikely that they will suddenly be challenging at the front again.

Yes, no chance Hamilton would go to RB, particularly whilst Max is there - and I'm sure Max wouldn't want him in the team either. Ferrari obviously have Leclerc who is doing well, but if Sainz continues to underperform, who knows? I'm sure Hamilton would relish a chance for a season or two in a Ferrari before he ends his career.

[fullhdpixel]

The speculation is that they are using this weekend for "experiments" to determine how to fix the car. Not sure if any of this will involve real upgrades, but I think it's extremely unlikely that they will suddenly be challenging at the front again.

Yes, no chance Hamilton would go to RB, particularly whilst Max is there - and I'm sure Max wouldn't want him in the team either. Ferrari obviously have Leclerc who is doing well, but if Sainz continues to underperform, who knows? I'm sure Hamilton would relish a chance for a season or two in a Ferrari before he ends his career.

I am sure that Hamilton will not leave Merceds to race in another team. He either races there next year as well, or he retires at Mercedes and doesn't race anywhere else. Even this year it was a talk about the fact he could retire, but that didn't happen and he raced this season. I think his contract was until next season's end right?

I remember it being 2023 end, and that means he will probably race next season as well and then he will retire. Ferrari or Red Bull or anything else, he is not going to race with another team. It would have made sense if he could have won there, but there is no guarantee so why go to another team after such a legacy and lose there?

[coinlocket$]

Ferrari is considering using a new power unit for Leclerc this weekend in Miami.

It will be the second so, no penalties but it is earlier than expected in the roadmap.

[Zackgeno96]

Ferrari is considering using a new power unit for Leclerc this weekend in Miami.

It will be the second so, no penalties but it is earlier than expected in the roadmap.

Will be another battle between Ferrari and Red Bull. It was supposed to be more exciting for the world championship, but in fact it didn't. It's just between Leclerc and Verstappen, the rest of the field doesn't play any significant role. And Hamilton? He cannot even dream of a new world title, there is so much difference at the moment with Ferrari and Red Bull.

[Republikcoin.com]

Anything can happen, if you read some news in the local media it's all due to costs. Suzuki has been back in MotoGP since 2015 and they don't have a major sponsor. So I think it's only natural that they can leave, especially since the global crisis caused by COVID-19 may still have an impact today. However, there has been no official statement from Suzuki so far, and even Dorna has not provided any clarification regarding this.

Over the past two days I have been reading some news related to this Suzuki with the conclusion point being the amount of cost (Money). So any team will be very overwhelmed if the problem is money and this is the second time the Suzuki team has left MotoGP after the 2011 season, then returned again in the 2015 season.

Of course the contract with Dorna could have ended if they didn't have a solution. Because Money is an important factor in the running of every Team in the race. Because the cost of each race I think is enormous. If Suzuki doesn't have the money and doesn't get a sponsor, maybe they might be replaced by another team.

MotoGP is the world's number one prestigious race so it always costs a lot for each race and I know that because since 2001 I have participated in MotoGP with various classes and the costs are always high for each team so teams that don't get big sponsors like Suzuki will have difficulties to operate on every race in every season. And so far I see almost everyone wants the Suzuki team to be able to survive next season or until 2026 based on the contract that has been signed by Suzuki.