Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....

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New accusation against Horner this time from Holland.

According to them he sent sexual content to a girl and after he tried to buy the silence from her.

[Davian144]

The fairly hot weather in Qatar today did not make the MotoGP riders complain about continuing to carry out official tests because they all know that now they have to work harder before the season starts. I saw that the top speed produced on the first day was quite balanced and did not have much difference for all MotoGP riders, except for test riders from each manufacturer. Apart from that, I see Davide Brivio in the Aprilia Trackhouse team which will be very good for him and also for the Aprilia Trackhouse team because this experienced man has also brought the Suzuki team to brilliant results in the MotoGP championship in 2020.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY

"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.

[JariKriting]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY

"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.

the 2024 competition hasn't even started yet, there are already congratulations on the world champion to max vestapen. although redbull this season is definitely without competitors again. maybe still hope that Ferrari is able to develop its car so fast so that this 2024 season there is a competitive competition not only dominated by redbull.

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Red flag due an hazzard in the track.
Ferrari always lucky needs to change the bottom of the car since they destroyed it.

The test will start again this afternoon with 1 extra hour.

[Distraction]

This was the results of the first testing session yesterday by the way.

None of us must be surprised to see Verstappen at the top being in very comfortable condition.    Of course there are big gaps between the laps driven for. But I don't think there would be a huge change even in a situation with equal amount of laps. Hamilton and Perez both were out so I can't say anything about them.

Ricciardo's performance impressed me but we will see what he can do as of the start of the season officially. It would be lovely to see Racing Bulls (previously named AlphaTauri) continuing to make progress.  

[FanEagle]

Adrien Newey is one of the greatest car designers in the entire world, in history even, so it's really a very weird feeling to see him build a Red Bull car that seems like the Mercedes one that failed after this new change.

I am not saying that Red Bull will fail, even at testing it looked like they had the best time, so I am not saying this new car is bad, but the question needs to be asked, what did Mercedes failed to do with this design that they had to change it whereas Newey found a way to make it work and insists on this being the car? I feel like he found the problem that Mercedes couldn't find and that's why he made this change, so the result is definitely questioned and we are going to see if it will work as well as he hopes it would.

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Ferrari got a good pace today, both in fast lap and race simualtion.

All the cars looks great with all the compouds, it should be a closer races this years behind RBR.

[alegotardo]

Ferrari got a good pace today, both in fast lap and race simualtion.

All the cars looks great with all the compouds, it should be a closer races this years behind RBR.

So... since Ferrari presented its new SF-24, they are guaranteeing that they will maintain their power in the classifications, but that alone is not enough... it is also necessary to win races.

I say this because since the adoption of the new aerodynamic regulations in 2022, Ferrari has always shone in the Saturday classifications, but the problem is that the various pole positions have not been converted into consistent victories. I even researched here to confirm what I was already following in the races and in fact the numbers say that in 2022 they won twelve pole positions and only four victories, in 2023 the SF-23 won seven pole positions but only won one race with Carlos Sainz in Singapore.

Anyway, expectations regarding Ferrari's performance are high, I also hope that this time it actually surprises us positively, so now we can only wait for the SF-24 to take to the track and show its true performance during the official races.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY

"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.

the 2024 competition hasn't even started yet, there are already congratulations on the world champion to max vestapen. although redbull this season is definitely without competitors again. maybe still hope that Ferrari is able to develop its car so fast so that this 2024 season there is a competitive competition not only dominated by redbull.

I also hope like that, hopefully Ferrari can provide tough competition against Red Bull, at least in some races Ferrari can get podium 1. So this season can be a more interesting season and not boring like last season.

[Distraction]

Another drain cover problem, huh?     It looks like FIA hasn't still learned its lesson from last season. If you don't remember a similar problem occurred at Las Vegas track which caused Sainz's car to take serious damage. 

FIA should act more carefully for the safety of the drivers. But it looks like they are still not completing full checks for tracks before the start of a weekend. I hope this doesn't cause another driver to have problems because of negligence of FIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3RJriC_eY

"Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning the 2024 Formula 1 season. " I found an interesting comment on the video and I couldn't help but laugh LOL. However, this comment is very reasonable, just look at how smooth and stable the RB20 car is, it shows how Newey was able to improve the aerodynamics and engine of the RB20 to its best point. Seeing how the RB20 performs, maybe this season will be quite a long season for Ferrari, Mercedes and other teams.

Adrian Newey is a blessing for Red Bull who is adored for his works.    He has extended his contract too so I think we are likely to see Red Bull dominance in not only 2024 but also 2025 season. I can't say anything about 2026 season yet as there are many changes on the way.

[tokeweed]

^  Newey's new contract from last year?  It has a clause that if Horner leaves then he also has the option to leave.  Horner also has the same clause in his contract for Newey.    RBR fkced themselves.

New accusation against Horner this time from Holland.

According to them he sent sexual content to a girl and after he tried to buy the silence from her.

There's word swirling around that Horner won't be Red Bull's team principal after Feb 28.  Dunno how true that is but that would be a dumb move for the team if it's true and it would suck for the fans.  But overall prolly good as it will level the teams a bit.  I don't buy the results in testing.  Red Bull will be proven dominant again and we'll be here watching another so so season.  Lol.

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FIA should act more carefully for the safety of the drivers. But it looks like they are still not completing full checks for tracks before the start of a weekend. I hope this doesn't cause another driver to have problems because of negligence of FIA.

This generation of cars are big, heavy, with heavy tires and a "sucking" air effect in the bottom.

They need to change the rule and have more strength in the screw in the ground.

[Distraction]

^  Newey's new contract from last year?  It has a clause that if Horner leaves then he also has the option to leave.  Horner also has the same clause in his contract for Newey.    RBR fkced themselves.

This clause really doesn't make sense at all. How would Red Bull accept this? I guess they were too confident about not losing any of Newey and Horner then. Now there is this serious situation going on at the team.

But I don't think Red Bull will sack Horner or he will decide to leave by his own decision in the upcoming days. There is no need to cause this crisis to get bigger. No Newey might even mean the end of a dominance era for Red Bull. 

This generation of cars are big, heavy, with heavy tires and a "sucking" air effect in the bottom.

They need to change the rule and have more strength in the screw in the ground.

Indeed but I don't think this change will be seen either this season or in the next one. 2026 season is promising about a lot of changes. The cars are planned to be built smaller too.

[swogerino]

Even if Redbull truly loses these heads of the team who has greatly contributed to their success so far based on the car they have for the 2024-2025 season they can easily win as long as Max is driving for them,as for Perez I have really high doubts about him winning a Championship even with the best car.

The big problem that we saw from the testing is,Max is over 1 second faster in testing although he said it is only testing compared to the second best car,now if these results carry over for real in the season which I believe they will do then we are going to see the same season of 2023 repeating the same pattern.

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Alonso released some interview in these days.

He basically said that he will be surprised if anyone can even win a race this year.

Redbull in the eyes of everyone looks even stronger than the past year.

[Distraction]

...as for Perez I have really high doubts about him winning a Championship even with the best car.

You are right about your doubts and I also feel the same about him.    It is like we don't have the same old Perez we know. He was much more ambitious and successful in the past. I don't want to link this with his age (34) to be honest. Because there is a great example like Alonso. He is 42 years old but still cooking. 

It is like Perez has lost his concentration for some reason. It was seen especially in the second part of last season. Even in his home Grand Prix he was out of the race at the start because of an individual mistake. He needs to collect himself otherwise I don't think Helmut Marko would like to see him at the team anymore.

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1 week at the start.

Side note, the race will be on Saturday, 1 day earlier for the Ramadan even if it not started yet.

Also the Saudi GP will be on Saturaday.

[tokeweed]

^  Newey's new contract from last year?  It has a clause that if Horner leaves then he also has the option to leave.  Horner also has the same clause in his contract for Newey.    RBR fkced themselves.

This clause really doesn't make sense at all. How would Red Bull accept this? I guess they were too confident about not losing any of Newey and Horner then. Now there is this serious situation going on at the team.

But I don't think Red Bull will sack Horner or he will decide to leave by his own decision in the upcoming days. There is no need to cause this crisis to get bigger. No Newey might even mean the end of a dominance era for Red Bull. 

I don't know why but it's there.  Go look it up.  Both Horner and Newey both have the same clause to protect each other.  And it looks like Newey doesn't want to work with any other team principal other than Christian Horner.    So if he goes, Newey goes...  To Ferrari.  Lmaooo.  They both will help Lewis Hamilton get his next drivers championship and finally break Schumacher's record.

Poor Leclerc.  He's gonna play second fiddle again.

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https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/rumours/f1-rumour-owners-of-formula-one-to-buy-motogp-dorna-ceo-speaks-out-sj4

There are rumors that Liberty Media, which is the owner of the F1 license, is currently interested in buying the commercial rights to MotoGP. Liberty Media said that they are interested in becoming the commercial rights holder for MotoGP and if that is realized they will have 2 commercial rights for the best world-class car and motorbike races. And not only Liberty Media, Amazon, Disney and Netflix are also interested in buying the MotoGP commercial license.

I don't really follow MotoGP, the last time I watched it was when Rossi raced, shortly after that I didn't watch it again. However, from what I hear, MotoGP is no longer as exciting as it was a few seasons ago, and the audience continues to decline. Is that the reason why Dorna wants to sell the MotoGP commercial license to another company?