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"Availability" is just meaningless in my opinion, unless BFL specifies what they mean by it.
Availability to butterfly labs means, "Hey guys, we are available to take your millions of dollars starting now. We will sit on this cash building THOUSANDS of dollars in interest over the next 6 months, then maybe think about shipping your items. Gotta go, busy so we can't comment on any of your complaints. Will update in next 3 months." EDIT: also, how is the trade in going to work? Will we have to ship our singles back the day we order the ASICs and not be able to mine while we wait? Or can we trade them in when the ASICs arrive? Dear Morblias, Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped. Regards, BF Labs Inc. What about normal orders that are paid with cash? Do I have to pay in advance like know or do you ask for the payment when my unit is packed and ready to ship? That would be nice. |
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June 19, 2012, 03:28:57 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
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Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. Why would they risk shipping a unit to have the person not send their current one in. I would want confirmation that 'ready to ship' does mean they have a physical unit with your name on it ready though. Why would I risk trusting a company that is known to be deceptive about their shipping statements? |
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June 19, 2012, 03:36:38 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. I believe they did say ready to be shipped. Pretty cut and dry... |
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June 19, 2012, 03:45:55 PM |
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again a nice comment of bfl? What does this mean ;P Does it mean i get an asic before i send in my fpga, or do i have to ship in that fpga before i get an asic? What is with the time while my single is on its way back to u? What about customs? etc. .... Stop doing that to your customers  I think what they wrote is pretty easy to understand, once your ASIC is ready, you send the FPGA to them, as soon as they receive it they ship your ASIC. It can't get any fairer than that. You must be confused with BFL's own dictionary. "Ready to ship" to them doesnt mean your name is on the item. It just means, they're shipping items to customers, the one that waited 4-6 months. |
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June 19, 2012, 03:52:05 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. Why would they risk shipping a unit to have the person not send their current one in. I would want confirmation that 'ready to ship' does mean they have a physical unit with your name on it ready though. BFL, why set the prices on these new units so early in the development process? We saw with the Single that you ended up lowering the price when it did not quite perform as planned. While this is great for customers it does not seem the best move from a business stand point. I assume, if the Jalepeno for example, only performed at 2.9GHs instead of 3.5 that the price would likey get adjusted. Why not wait for the first prototypes to verify your silicon and other hardware to set thoe prices? Why would they reserve one for you? do you think they will wait for your Single? Never in BFL's history, they would reserve products (waiting for your payment). Its always the other way around |
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June 19, 2012, 04:08:27 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. I believe they did say ready to be shipped. Pretty cut and dry... We both know that BFL will often come back and 'revise' what they originally posted as a mistatement.. I want to make certain that what they said is what they mean. You could potentially mail in your old gear and wait for a long period of time while your new gear is 'read to ship' but hasn't actually shipped. |
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June 19, 2012, 04:09:46 PM |
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I wonder if my Mini-Rig will have to be traded for the 1TH system only, or if can be traded for several 40GH systems.
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June 19, 2012, 04:13:11 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
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BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. I believe they did say ready to be shipped. Pretty cut and dry... We both know that BFL will often come back and 'revise' what they originally posted as a mistatement.. I want to make certain that what they said is what they mean. You could potentially mail in your old gear and wait for a long period of time while your new gear is 'read to ship' but hasn't actually shipped. Fair enough, but why would they ship you a product before you paid for it? No company does that for the average consumer... |
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June 19, 2012, 04:14:19 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. I believe they did say ready to be shipped. Pretty cut and dry... We both know that BFL will often come back and 'revise' what they originally posted as a mistatement.. I want to make certain that what they said is what they mean. You could potentially mail in your old gear and wait for a long period of time while your new gear is 'read to ship' but hasn't actually shipped. Fair enough, but why would they ship you a product before you paid for it? No company does that for the average consumer... There's a lot of things BFL does/doesn't do that the average company does/doesn't do for the average company. |
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June 19, 2012, 04:15:51 PM |
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Regarding the trade-in, you can keep your units until your BitForce SC is ready to be shipped.
Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Ready to ship or has shipped? Those are two very separate things. I believe they did say ready to be shipped. Pretty cut and dry... We both know that BFL will often come back and 'revise' what they originally posted as a mistatement.. I want to make certain that what they said is what they mean. You could potentially mail in your old gear and wait for a long period of time while your new gear is 'read to ship' but hasn't actually shipped. Fair enough, but why would they ship you a product before you paid for it? No company does that for the average consumer... Forget about shipping without payment, Reserving spot without pre-order payment is already hard to believe. They wont wait for your singles to be sent back. Period |
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June 19, 2012, 07:06:17 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
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June 19, 2012, 07:07:15 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! |
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June 19, 2012, 07:07:40 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. |
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June 19, 2012, 07:08:21 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. According to BFL's FAQ, what he said was correct. Upon release of BitForce SC based Singles & Mini Rigs, all previous generation BitForce products will enjoy a full 100% trade in value when used towards the purchase of the newer generation replacements. This means your current device is protected from depreciation through this evolution in technology. This buy back offer is good for all previous generation BitForce units whether purchased directly from us or from a third party. Full terms of our obsolescence guarantee will be forthcoming. |
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June 19, 2012, 07:08:39 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. He is correct though... |
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June 19, 2012, 07:09:21 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. You CLOWN : "This buy back offer is good for all previous generation BitForce units whether purchased directly from us or from a third party. Full terms of our obsolescence guarantee will be forthcoming." |
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June 19, 2012, 07:09:49 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2012, 10:49:12 PM by Gladamas |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. He is correct though... I do realize that, but over 70% of the time he is trolling, I just wanted to say that. Sorry, I retract that statement. |
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June 19, 2012, 07:11:27 PM |
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Does the trade in for value apply if we acquire singles on the used market? EG if I own 20 singles bought from another miner, will I get $599 each in trade-in?
YES ! Please ignore all of Bulanula's posts. He is correct though... I do realize that, but over 70% of the time he is trolling, I just wanted to say that. I won't argue with you on that.  |
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June 19, 2012, 07:12:19 PM |
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I do realize that, but over 70% of the time he is trolling, I just wanted to say that.
How did you calculate the 70%? |
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June 19, 2012, 07:13:34 PM |
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I do realize that, but over 70% of the time he is trolling, I just wanted to say that.
How did you calculate the 70%? Haha, I just wanted to say that myself but restrained. Kudos to you. Who is full of crap : me or Gladamas ?  |
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