[Archive] BFL trolling museum

[The-Real-Link]

  Pay Pal is now available on BFL's site for a payment method.  I'm not sure when they put it up exactly but I'd guess a week or two by now.  I just now last time I checked I didn't see it there.

[tbcoin]

Some time ago I did a pre order (paid in BTC), I could replace this order for another and pay the difference?

[psilan]

Some time ago I did a pre order (paid in BTC), I could replace this order for another and pay the difference?

Me too me too.

[tbcoin]

Some time ago I did a pre order (paid in BTC), I could replace this order for another and pay the difference?

or add something to order.

[silverbox]

BFL claims they start shipping in October.
Like this page says they really promise.

Though my question is, wich items you are gonna ship first?
Are you guys first gonna ship the Jalapenos and maybe a couple of SC Mini rigs?
For example: as far we can guess it's maybe gonna takes another 4 months after October before you ship the Single SC units, though the shipping started in October alright like promised.
Can BFL give us maybe a little bit clarification on that area?

Thanks.

They said somewhere (no idea where, search the forum?) that they'll ship them all at the same time.

Here's the policy clarification again:

http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/

The initial orders will be grouped into a batch prior to shipment.  This will ensure no one is an unfair beneficiary of disproportionate hashing power.  Having said this, we only have so much production capacity and the initial order group will still do very very well.  That being the case, here are the rules we will stick to in releasing these units.

1/3rd of the units will go in order priority of purchase date.
1/3rd of the units will go to trade in customers.
1/3rd of the units will go to random orders placed in the first month (6/23 - 7/23).

Both priority customers and trade in customers may benefit from random selection prior to their natural shipping order.


Refunds and charge backs:  All sales are final unless we fail to perform.  That includes both performance and shipping targets.  60 days past target and we'll happily refund your purchase.  If you would really like a refund anyway, just ask and we'll probably be able to take care of you.  Nonetheless, we reserve the right to handle it on a case by case basis.

Will you be sticking to this 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 policy for orders placed after the 2nd month?  post 7/24?

[CubedRoot]

Wish BFL would give us some type of news updates

[AndrewBUD]

News Update, ETA is still a fictional October

[crazyates]

Wish BFL would give us some type of news updates

They posted in this thread (at the top of this page even) 2 weeks ago, and there's still another 2 months till their quoted shipping time. They're not exactly known for their clockwork-like weekly updates. I'd give it another month, and we'll see what updates they have when we're closer to the shipping date.

[ice_chill]

What updates do you want ? they said currently they are on track, what more do you want to hear ?

[davidspitzer]

News Update, ETA is still a fictional October

I am pretty sure October is real - There was an October in 2011. I predict there will be one in 2012.

[DiabloD3]

News Update, ETA is still a fictional October

I am pretty sure October is real - There was an October in 2011. I predict there will be one in 2012.

Yeah, but will we have one in 2013? We might skip October altogether.

[Turbor]

It's October in 4 to 6 weeks...

[crazyates]

It's October in 4 to 6 weeks...

[Morblias]

It's October in 4 to 6 weeks...

[psilan]

Email updates would be nice.

[BFL_Josh]

The plan is still to do 1/3's on the shipping type.

I do want to mine the community here to flesh out my idea for this, though:

I want to use the block chain as the random number generator.  Something such as this:

After block X, every block's first Y bits will determine what order number gets their unit in the 1/3 random portion.  Obviously, this needs a little work to work out. So I am looking for ideas on how to implement this in a fool proof way that everyone will be satisfied with that we are not gaming the system or somehow twisting it to our own ends.

Keep in mind we will not be releasing any specifics on orders (such as name, order number, etc...) publicly, but only to the people who own those orders, if they choose to publish them here, that is their own business but we won't divulge private information or sales numbers.  So the plan needs to work from a blind standpoint.

So I'm looking for comments and ideas from the community that the community itself will be satisfied with and that is as transparent as possible without dipping into proprietary information.

[silverbox]

The plan is still to do 1/3's on the shipping type.

I do want to mine the community here to flesh out my idea for this, though:

I want to use the block chain as the random number generator.  Something such as this:

After block X, every block's first Y bits will determine what order number gets their unit in the 1/3 random portion.  Obviously, this needs a little work to work out. So I am looking for ideas on how to implement this in a fool proof way that everyone will be satisfied with that we are not gaming the system or somehow twisting it to our own ends.

Keep in mind we will not be releasing any specifics on orders (such as name, order number, etc...) publicly, but only to the people who own those orders, if they choose to publish them here, that is their own business but we won't divulge private information or sales numbers.  So the plan needs to work from a blind standpoint.

So I'm looking for comments and ideas from the community that the community itself will be satisfied with and that is as transparent as possible without dipping into proprietary information.

What about the 2nd month (7/24 to 8/24) of orders, will there be a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 policy for those orders or will they just be filled in sequence? 

ie.  If we ordered right now at the end of the 2nd month could we conceivably receive our order with the very first orders that were made in the 2nd month due to the random portion ??

[tbcoin]

I would be willing to pay extra to receive my order in October.

[BFL_Josh]

Yes, we will be filling them in order after that.  

Keep in mind that I will not release any order until I feel that we have enough orders to ship out to everyone in the first batch.  I don't want a few select individuals to end up with the ASIC days or weeks in advance of others.  We will release a few demo units to high profile individuals (not high profile miners necessarily) to check out if we are in the accumulation phase of assembled equipment.  

[Unacceptable]

Well,I watched the forum & your website (BFL) extensively for the release date & time,ie. did my homework & ordered ASAP.If you scramble the orders then all my effort was wasted.

I will be pissed off big time

Just send out the first 1/3 in the order they were recieved,as planned from the beginning.............

Second 1/3 should be for trade in's,as planned from the beginning.............

Third 1/3 can be randomly generated as you are suggesting or whatever........

After that do as you wish.