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June 20, 2012, 05:35:56 PM
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More importantly, the ones with the fpga singles would be inclined to buy asics at almost twice the price/difficulty as a non fpga owner, since their FPGAs are essentially worthless for mining and so they pay only "half" price. So you want to sign up the other customers first before difficulty starts shooting up.

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June 20, 2012, 05:40:56 PM
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More importantly, the ones with the fpga singles would be inclined to buy asics at almost twice the price/difficulty as a non fpga owner, since their FPGAs are essentially worthless for mining and so they pay only "half" price. So you want to sign up the other customers first before difficulty starts shooting up.
Hey, that's an interesting point I hadn't thought about...
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June 20, 2012, 05:41:51 PM
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It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.
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June 20, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
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It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont have 10 devices as they wont start assembly after moneyhas been sent, so ignore what I said :-)
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June 20, 2012, 06:02:00 PM
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It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont ha
It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont have 10 devices as they wont start assembly after moneyhas been sent, so ignore what I said :-)


Is this the first double post within 1 single post!!!!?Huh!!!

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June 20, 2012, 06:03:09 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure !  Grin
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June 20, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure !  Grin


LMAO




another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...


rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.


that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.
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June 20, 2012, 06:12:02 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

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LMAO




another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...


rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.


that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.

Also what country.
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June 20, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure !  Grin

Battery powered bluetooth micro-keyboard. They make them.

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June 20, 2012, 06:15:15 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

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LMAO




another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...


rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.


that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.

Also what country.

yeah, even more for those out of the US... i'd never in my life purchase a single from a reseller at this point in the US, and even more so if I was located outside the US...
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June 20, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure !  Grin


LMAO




another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...


rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.


that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.

Also what country.

yeah, even more for those out of the US... i'd never in my life purchase a single from a reseller at this point in the US, and even more so if I was located outside the US...

Also think about customs for people outside the US ...

At least they should have EU distributor I think.
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June 20, 2012, 06:20:45 PM
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yeah, even more for those out of the US... i'd never in my life purchase a single from a reseller at this point in the US, and even more so if I was located outside the US...

It's often a much better deal for those outside the US. All but one of the few singles I've sold have gone abroad because the actual shipping is lower than bfl's charge and there is no VAT.
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June 20, 2012, 10:28:33 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.




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June 20, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.
Complex mousetrap? No.
Bitcoin is full of people who have very little economics sense ...
It's more like a sign next to to a dark hole saying: "Jump down here please" with "$" signs written all around the words.
... and I'm not trolling or being sarcastic with that comment (for once?) - I am quite serious ...

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June 20, 2012, 11:14:09 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.
Complex mousetrap? No.
Bitcoin is full of people who have very little economics sense ...
It's more like a sign next to to a dark hole saying: "Jump down here please" with "$" signs written all around the words.
... and I'm not trolling or being sarcastic with that comment (for once?) - I am quite serious ...
This.

I fail to see where Butterfly Labs became the devil for offering full value trade ins on previous-gen products.  I mean, they could have just not done that at all...
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June 20, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.
Complex mousetrap? No.
Bitcoin is full of people who have very little economics sense ...
It's more like a sign next to to a dark hole saying: "Jump down here please" with "$" signs written all around the words.
... and I'm not trolling or being sarcastic with that comment (for once?) - I am quite serious ...
This.

I fail to see where Butterfly Labs became the devil for offering full value trade ins on previous-gen products.  I mean, they could have just not done that at all...
wouldve been more entertaining... lol
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June 20, 2012, 11:18:17 PM
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I mean, what other FPGA creators are offering trade in for anything near the capabilities of an ASIC???

Those ppl that swore by the "never dealing with BFL blah blah this FPGA company >>>" failed to say the least
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June 20, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.
Complex mousetrap? No.
Bitcoin is full of people who have very little economics sense ...
It's more like a sign next to to a dark hole saying: "Jump down here please" with "$" signs written all around the words.
... and I'm not trolling or being sarcastic with that comment (for once?) - I am quite serious ...
This.

I fail to see where Butterfly Labs became the devil for offering full value trade ins on previous-gen products.  I mean, they could have just not done that at all...

Going that route would have been poison for business.  It was a foregone conclusion that they would have to make that offer.
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June 20, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
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Gotta give BFL credit for one thing.  It has built one of the greatest and most complex mousetraps of all time.
Complex mousetrap? No.
Bitcoin is full of people who have very little economics sense ...
It's more like a sign next to to a dark hole saying: "Jump down here please" with "$" signs written all around the words.
... and I'm not trolling or being sarcastic with that comment (for once?) - I am quite serious ...
This.

I fail to see where Butterfly Labs became the devil for offering full value trade ins on previous-gen products.  I mean, they could have just not done that at all...
wouldve been more entertaining... lol

No rebate would have chilled current sales. ASIC will most likely have a long horizon till the first unit ships. The rebate will keep current sales alive

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June 21, 2012, 12:21:29 AM
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Then why announce it at all until they were ready to ship? Then it really wouldn't matter to them. They do have VC funding right? Wink

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