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December 17, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.

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December 17, 2012, 01:12:46 AM
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I don't really like the contest either.  Unfortunately if called out, BFL can truthfully say "but our competition does it too!"

Doesn't matter if anyone else is doing it. BFL is running an illegal lottery. No surprise, really, having been founded by a felon convicted of running an illegal scheme. By requiring consideration, in the form of advertising by the participants, and not having a "no purchase necessary" way to enter the contest, they are in clear violation of the law.

Nah, you're mixing up contests, sweepstakes and lotteries. Those are three different things differently regulated. The "no purchase necessary" applies to sweepstakes. Participation in a lottery requires monetary payment. What BFL is doing is a contest, where a reward is awarded among those participants (their status as customer or non-customer is irrelevant) that successfully "won" a puzzle or game. The puzzle or game in this case being "whore out your BTCTalk signature and keep posting on BTCTalk". It's unethical, but not illegal.

If it was illegal, the same would apply to every "Like us on Facebook for a chance to win a prize" contest.

This is the exact kind of Scam Sonny runs.......

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December 17, 2012, 01:46:00 AM
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So let me explain it to you for the 3th time: you can only see ALL comments by going to the bfl forum mainpage, bottom and selecting the topic under "article comments".
The 2 complainers just like you use either the article itself where comments are not properly added or use the links shown through the "what's new" page, which act the same, that is: lead to the article instead of the topic.

Nice explanation. You know Occams Razor (a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected)? So: BFL deletes comments - hence users complain about deleted comments.

Seriously SLok, why do you defend BFL so much? Are you happy with their customer support? Their constantly delayed shipment dates? Their information policy? Their transparency? I mean their last "BFL ASIC Delays - An In-Depth Explanation" was a joke - yet it still seems to be OK for you.

Why?

SloK on the forums to announce he was buying BFL products:

Hi y'all, SLok from The Netherlands, as many of you waiting for my (6) Jalapeno's. Mainly signed up to get access to the ignore button, btw.

and has dont nothing but blindly defend them while ignoring all discussion points raised regarding their dodgey practices.
He is either an idiot or a shill.

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December 17, 2012, 01:51:13 AM
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SloK on the forums to announce he was buying BFL products:

Hi y'all, SLok from The Netherlands, as many of you waiting for my (6) Jalapeno's. Mainly signed up to get access to the ignore button, btw.

and has dont nothing but blindly defend them while ignoring all discussion points raised regarding their dodgey practices.
He is either an idiot or a shill.

He's a contest participant.
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December 17, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
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I don't really like the contest either.  Unfortunately if called out, BFL can truthfully say "but our competition does it too!"

Doesn't matter if anyone else is doing it. BFL is running an illegal lottery. No surprise, really, having been founded by a felon convicted of running an illegal scheme. By requiring consideration, in the form of advertising by the participants, and not having a "no purchase necessary" way to enter the contest, they are in clear violation of the law.

Nah, you're mixing up contests, sweepstakes and lotteries. Those are three different things differently regulated. The "no purchase necessary" applies to sweepstakes. Participation in a lottery requires monetary payment. What BFL is doing is a contest, where a reward is awarded among those participants (their status as customer or non-customer is irrelevant) that successfully "won" a puzzle or game. The puzzle or game in this case being "whore out your BTCTalk signature and keep posting on BTCTalk". It's unethical, but not illegal.

If it was illegal, the same would apply to every "Like us on Facebook for a chance to win a prize" contest.

Is that supposed to be reassuring ? Tongue

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December 17, 2012, 11:43:37 AM
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He's a contest participant.

... and therefore an asshamster.

Note: Not all asshamsters are contest participants - but all contest participants are asshamsters  Wink

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December 17, 2012, 04:27:23 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.
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December 18, 2012, 01:23:17 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.

There was a CEO that got slammed by the SEC for a Facebook message, I forget which company though.

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December 18, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.

There was a CEO that got slammed by the SEC for a Facebook message, I forget which company though.


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December 18, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.

There was a CEO that got slammed by the SEC for a Facebook message, I forget which company though.
...which is completely irrelevant to this.  He was slammed for announcing information over Facebook that should have been "more formally shared with investors" first.
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December 18, 2012, 06:19:43 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.

There was a CEO that got slammed by the SEC for a Facebook message, I forget which company though.
...which is completely irrelevant to this.  He was slammed for announcing information over Facebook that should have been "more formally shared with investors" first.

Just saying, if the government wants to bone you over trivial shit, they will.

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December 18, 2012, 08:11:31 PM
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Seems the important point is the Put Blah Blah Blah in your signature space. This isn't a purchase so Yeah if you want a shot put it in your signature it costs nothing. Maybe pride or ego but nothing monitarily. I am pretty sure there is no accepted exchange rate for pride or ego to $.

Providing advertising for a company is a form of consideration. Requiring some form of consideration for a sweepstakes turns it into an illegal lottery.
It's only advertising as much as requiring people to like & share a page on Facebook is (thereby advertising it on their newsfeed).  If this is illegal, then I know of a whole host of companies on Facebook who should face similar indictments.

There was a CEO that got slammed by the SEC for a Facebook message, I forget which company though.
...which is completely irrelevant to this.  He was slammed for announcing information over Facebook that should have been "more formally shared with investors" first.

Just saying, if the government wants to bone you over trivial shit, they will.
Valid point.  Wink
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December 19, 2012, 03:48:56 AM
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if the government wants to bone you over trivial shit, they will.

FTFY

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December 19, 2012, 05:59:18 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/4CIWY.jpg

Slandering is not an appropriate way to advertise a product.

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December 19, 2012, 06:16:46 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/4CIWY.jpg

Slandering is not an appropriate way to advertise a product.

I thought it was funny....but what do I know....I'm retarded  Cheesy Tongue

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December 19, 2012, 06:28:30 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/4CIWY.jpg

Slandering is not an appropriate way to advertise a product.

I thought it was funny....but what do I know....I'm retarded  Cheesy Tongue

Ahaha I thought that was funny too.  Wink Grin

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December 19, 2012, 07:33:22 AM
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To be fair, I thought that was funny myself.
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December 19, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/4CIWY.jpg

Slandering is not an appropriate way to advertise a product.

TBH at first glance I actually thought it was something you did and you were taking the piss. It could be interpreted either way and not very slandery, really.



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December 19, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
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TBH at first glance I actually thought it was something you did and you were taking the piss. It could be interpreted either way and not very slandery, really.

+1

I found it funny too. And pathetic in a way. Because it seems the asshamsters have to try harder and harder each day to keep their mass delusion - the parallel universe where BFL ASICs exist - alive.

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December 19, 2012, 09:48:19 AM
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the parallel universe where BFL ASICs exist - alive.

You'd have to be pretty delusional to think they don't exist at this point. I mean, if it was a scam, BFL would most likely have mysteriously disappeared by now, along with all the pre-order cash/coins.

The real question is if the current batch will work. I'm putting a 50% probability on them being able to ship something in Jan.
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