[OLD THREAD] Silk Network: Silk, DarkSilk and Weaver

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

[traK4Ubitl]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

I have paid Synnn, who is actually like a brother to me and we have worked together for 3 years now. He has been paid for work as well. I also split some payments to him from Arteleis as well. Development hasn't ceased. I think what you meant to say is, release something.

When it is ready, we will.

Interesting cuz he said also he was an unpaid volunteer!  Stop lying man! Cmon!

[traK4Ubitl]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

I have paid Synnn, who is actually like a brother to me and we have worked together for 3 years now. He has been paid for work as well. I also split some payments to him from Arteleis as well. Development hasn't ceased. I think what you meant to say is, release something.

When it is ready, we will.

Stop circle jerking. I never said release something I said develop something... why isn't your name on the board you posted??

[SLievensDRKSLK]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

I have paid Synnn, who is actually like a brother to me and we have worked together for 3 years now. He has been paid for work as well. I also split some payments to him from Arteleis as well. Development hasn't ceased. I think what you meant to say is, release something.

When it is ready, we will.

Interesting cuz he said also he was an unpaid volunteer!  Stop lying man! Cmon!

He is unpaid, as in he doesn't receive a wage. But if there is some sort of payment or donation and he is working, then he will receive something for his work.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

$30,000 lolololol, your fucking mental.

Or have been badly misinformed.

Or you haven't listened correctly.

Hahahahahahahhahahaha

$30,000

Fuck man.

Right.  Arteleis is a. Liar and you're the man.  Good work on Passing the block explorer off to someone else who literally didn't get paid.

I'm a little confused by this post. But do you mean me asking Matthew Langdon to get the block explorer up and running?

Yeh.  I could believe that synn actually didn't get paid for any lf the work you passed off to him.. while getting paid to do work you didn't complete.  Anyways.. I'm sick of this circle jerk.  Stop talking to me and maybe I'll go away.  Here's and idea.  Develop something.

I have paid Synnn, who is actually like a brother to me and we have worked together for 3 years now. He has been paid for work as well. I also split some payments to him from Arteleis as well. Development hasn't ceased. I think what you meant to say is, release something.

When it is ready, we will.

Stop circle jerking. I never said release something I said develop something... why isn't your name on the board you posted??

Ha, my name isn't on the board because I have to review every single pull request and monitor the work of all the developers, as well as assign the correct work to the correct developer. It is called being a lead developer.

[nzminer]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, communicating and tech support has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

[SLievensDRKSLK]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, commuting has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

350k, which i spent on pizzas, he was gonna send a million, but he has since vanished.

Price was at about 100 satoshi when I spent that Silkcoin.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, commuting has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

350k, which i speant on pizzas, he was gonna send a million, but he has since vanished.

Stop lying.

[nzminer]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, communicating and tech support has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

I did not do it for the money, but he did pay me around 80-100K in silk

[SLievensDRKSLK]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, commuting has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

350k, which i speant on pizzas, he was gonna send a million, but he has since vanished.

Stop lying.

Stop Trolling.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, communicating and tech support has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

I did not do it for the money, but he did pay me around 80-100K in silk

Ahh honesty. It's beautiful.

[traK4Ubitl]

So Trak, if Arteleis is the one who pissed in your Cheerios, wouldn't he be the one you'd want to go after???  That being said, that is setting all other things aside in this forum...

Sounds like he was the main one that influenced you from what you posted and you made a choice base on conversations with him.

Did you talk to anyone else in the development team?  Or did you just dive right in...  Maybe you should have chatted with the whole team?

Sounds to me like Aterleis told you things that weren't totally on the marker?

Nope arteleis was the developer who appears to have been railroaded by this team.  And yes he is the reason I am here. And why I get more and more pissed off Everytime I read more lies.  But your right.  Arteleis maybe was a liar too.  Which makes things worse.  

 Spencer did arteleis not pay you a shitload of money to develop Silkcoin? Why are you here and why is he not? Doesn't make sense like I said to shut down the thread because of me.. he seemed a troll killer and I admired him.. this is far beyond money now though.  Entirely principle and good old eye for an eye Christian values.

Your quote of mine shows that I said we have access to SilkCoinTemple, maybe not directly but through PalmD, Bishop or Arteleis.

Arteleis donated a living amount of btc per week for 6 months from April last year to me weekly/biweekly. I am here because I believed that the community deserved an honest developer and team that I could bring to the table. He has vanished after his last post on the old thread and no-one I know has heard from him since, also no-one has the faintest idea why he has disappeared.

Also, for the record, Arteleis is not a developer.

It may appear I am sometimes talking in circles, reiterating the same thing in a different way, but this is simply because we don't want to let every idea out and give up the game.

Arteleis was not a developer? Fuck man.. go back to the thread when silk died and he saved it.. get your head out of your ass.. not only did he save this coin.. he paid you a shitload of money to develop it..  which you now say is dead and you never received a dime..  you gave no idea who I am and how many conversations I've had with him! Stop lying bro!

I am not lying. He isn't a developer, otherwise he would of done it himself, surely? He has paid me a few thousand dollars for 6 months and now after about 9/10 months since I last got payment I am still working on it. I also didn't say I never received a dime or said it was dead. You are right I have no idea who you are as you won't talk to me directly or act publicly. I have multiple witnesses who were around when me and Arteleis spoke and are fully aware of the agreement I had with him, which was to resurrect Silkcoin with a new coin and swap out. But I wanted to take it further with a platform as well. Then it was decided to keep Silkcoin and launch Silk and have a second coin DarkSilk as well. I haven't lied once throughout my time developing, I may of giving some timeframes that were off, but that is all.

A few thousand dollars eh? Only ten times off what he told me bro.. stop lying... I really hope he responds to my messaged eventually..  as currently you're calling the developer of silkcoin a liar.  As you've stated clearly.  You are not the developer of silkcoin and it it is entirely up for grabs. Res nullius

I wish I had been paid that amount, I also hope he replies, However there is an active user in the thread that will reply when reading this as he was about when Arteleis made the deal with me, when he was paying me and was actively talking to Arteleis throughout that time. So I will be interested to see what both have to say about your claims. For the record I have had Arteleis donate me around $200 per week for a 6 month period which equates to around $4800. There may of been a few times he sent me BTC as I had no money after paying rent so I could eat, but trust me, I am not lying.

Stop lying.

Arteleis was NOT a dev and never professed to! He only ever said that he was learning.
He put alot of his time and money in to this to find devs and get volunteers to work on this coin, he in fact did pay devs himself to get this up and running again.

He was in good contact with me for some time and I worked with him and a couple of new devs to get this wallet back up and working. I did all the graphic design and designed new logos etc.

A lot of money eh? Do you really think I would invest in a conversation where someone paid 3500 bux for dev? That's kids play.  Define developing.  Believe i read you had a lot to do with developing the current client? Or is that also bullshit.  The shit is deep here and the truth is tough to come by.

Mate you are talking crap, except for the part about the current client, yes i did alot of work on the graphics and i still have all the photoshop master templates on my computer to prove it.
Hanz refined it again with a different background and fonts etc, but the current logo is what i designed personally and its still visible on CMC.

Sweet.  Interesting a non-developer developing anything..  or guess spending countless hours on developing logos, buying images, making icons, commuting has nothing do do with development in addition to paying other people.. how much silk arteleis pay you? You gonna say none too.. or you gonna tell the truth like our compulsive lying dev here..

350k, which i speant on pizzas, he was gonna send a million, but he has since vanished.

Stop lying.

Stop Trolling.

As soon as you stop lying.

[SLievensDRKSLK]

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

[nzminer]

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! 

[drizzle2405]

Ok so...  Looks like there will never be any private talks to settle this back and forth dispute...  So if you have worked on Silkcoin in the past or have had encounters with Arteleis, please step forward in the forum and let your opinion be noticed so the dispute with Trak can be settled.

There are always two sides to a story and then there is the truth.  Feel free to speak out and let your voice be heard.  Majority will always indicate what really happened and what is really going on.

Spencer, his goal is to piss you off, so don't even bother with cursing him back.

Let's hear from everyone....  Get it all out in the open so this can be ended.

Did Arteleis lead Trak on?  Was it malicious or a matter of not being in the loop?

Trak you got another user account or is this a trolling account?  Were you in this since the beginning when Arteleis was involved or did you recently get in?

Trak you said you are a fund manager...  You said you sold out...  So wtf is the point going on and on and on...  Are you in this?  Are you out?

[traK4Ubitl]

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! 

I would love to man.  But all this lying has to end.

[drizzle2405]

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap!  

I would love to man.  But all this lying has to end.

So do you have several sources pointing at one person saying that one person lied???  Or are you going off what one person told you?

Honestly if we are going to go on and on about shit, bring in other people to prove you are right, let's hear it from other sources... Evidence counts.

I'm not siding with anyone I'm trying to end this shit.

[traK4Ubitl]

Ok so...  Looks like there will never be any private talks to settle this back and forth dispute...  So if you have worked on Silkcoin in the past or have had encounters with Arteleis, please step forward in the forum and let your opinion be noticed so the dispute with Trak can be settled.

There are always two sides to a story and then there is the truth.  Feel free to speak out and let your voice be heard.  Majority will always indicate what really happened and what is really going on.

Spencer, his goal is to piss you off, so don't even bother with cursing him back.

Let's hear from everyone....  Get it all out in the open so this can be ended.

Did Arteleis lead Trak on?  Was it malicious or a matter of not being in the loop?

Trak you got another user account or is this a trolling account?  Were you in this since the beginning when Arteleis was involved or did you recently get in?

Trak you said you are a fund manager...  You said you sold out...  So wtf is the point going on and on and on...  Are you in this?  Are you out?

Ahh a refreshing leader to take the podium.  

This is my only account.  I tried posting in other threads but they were too busy developing to listen to me.

  Yeh I sold everything.  So what's the point? Principle.  Eye for an eye.  

  Basic interest now.   Should I pay another developer to develop Silkcoin? These guys have gave up and killing the chain.  I don't want the chain killed. I don't want a forced exchange.   I don't want a corporation.  I want my fucking silkcoin back.

[traK4Ubitl]

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! 

I would love to man.  But all this lying has to end.

So do you have several sources pointing at one person saying that one person lied???  Or are you going off what one person told you?

Dude please.  Grab a coffee and reread my posts.  Am I defending or is the opposite.   Seriously.