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Author Topic: [ANN][TAO] Tao, AltMarket & FanMix - Real Solutions for the Music Industry!  (Read 93035 times)
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December 12, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
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You never answered my question upthread: what specifically do you think is in violation of US securities law?


THE PREMINE? Smiley LOL

OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

Making a throwaway to point out that this is, in fact, a lie.

Bryce did put a cap on the fundraiser, but at 30 million (1USD = 1TAO), not $100 000. The latter is just what he managed to raise (in fact, he raised slightly more than that, according to contemporaneous PR material).

See e.g. https://bitcoinprbuzz.com/tao-network-announces-the-crowdsale-of-its-cryptocurrency-and-the-tao-of-music-project/

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Because the sale was capped at 30 million USD, not 100k USD, and ran for the full period.

Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?
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December 12, 2018, 11:07:51 AM
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.



Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

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December 12, 2018, 01:23:06 PM
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.



Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

we talking coins or stocks ? lol  Cheesy  wheres this imaginary exchange? pfttt bwwahahaha

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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.

That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.

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Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit.

Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later.
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December 12, 2018, 02:34:54 PM
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.

That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.

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Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit.

Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later.


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December 13, 2018, 02:28:57 AM
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The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

we talking coins or stocks ? lol  Cheesy  wheres this imaginary exchange? pfttt bwwahahaha

Coins, obviously.

The exchange is still right where it was yesterday when I linked to it upthread. As previously mentioned, it is currently only allowing people to participate in the ODBcoin sale, with full trading to follow.

https://exchange.alt.market/

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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.

That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.

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Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit.

Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later.

You're so obsessed with this nonexistent $30M. They raised around $110,000 and that is far less than the minimum required for registering as a security. How you are interpreting the press release you read from 2016 is totally irrelevant to the question of whether it is exempted under Reg D. Is $110,000 less than $1,000,000? Then it's under the minimum. Understand?

The SEC filing is not related to the Tao ICO. That was for the AltMarket, and the fact that they registered is an indication they followed the law.

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The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

we talking coins or stocks ? lol  Cheesy  wheres this imaginary exchange? pfttt bwwahahaha

Coins, obviously.

The exchange is still right where it was yesterday when I linked to it upthread. As previously mentioned, it is currently only allowing people to participate in the ODBcoin sale, with full trading to follow.

https://exchange.alt.market/

if there is only ONE COIN ON THERE it's not an exchange it's just a dumping ground for bryces dogshit!! lol Wink weeeeee

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December 13, 2018, 02:50:16 AM
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?

If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.

There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.

If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.

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The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th.

You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00

Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security.

It does not.

Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then?

Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have?

Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean.

For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.

That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.

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Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?

The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504

I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit.

Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later.

You're so obsessed with this nonexistent $30M. They raised around $110,000 and that is far less than the minimum required for registering as a security. How you are interpreting the press release you read from 2016 is totally irrelevant to the question of whether it is exempted under Reg D. Is $110,000 less than $1,000,000? Then it's under the minimum. Understand?

The SEC filing is not related to the Tao ICO. That was for the AltMarket, and the fact that they registered is an indication they followed the law.


sounds like max keisers holllywood penny stock exchange thing hmmmm Smiley  kek

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If you're so confident in Bryce's criminality, report him to the authorities. What AltMarket is doing is about the only legit thing in crypto. Getting bored with people who can only shout baseless assertions and dodge direct questions


Here's some more coverage of the ODBcoin sale, featuring an interview with Young Dirty and Bryce:

https://youtu.be/nak9KFgFXUA?t=25

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Right On! magazine article about ODBcoin and the AltMarket exchange:

https://www.rightondigital.com/2018/12/12/wu-tang-clans-odb-estate-launches-coin-on-altmarket-cryptocurrency-exchange/

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cool! +1  Grin

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If you're so confident in Bryce's criminality, report him to the authorities. What AltMarket is doing is about the only legit thing in crypto. Getting bored with people who can only shout baseless assertions and dodge direct questions


Once the SEC gets wind that he's throwing their name around to promote his garbage without an actual license that will be his own undoing. I don't have to do anything for his project to be a failure -- they all end up failures anyway. He has a terrible track record and is notorious for pump n dump schemes.

I tried to check where it was on CMC today and its completely fallen off the charts as it was delisted from its last exchange:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tao/#markets

Talk about "shitcoins." Lol.



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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.
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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.

YOU ACTUALLY TRIED? LOLOLOLLL =) BWAAHAHAHA NICE +1


WHEN BRYCES' NEW RAP ALBUM DROPPING??

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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.

 Huh I'm logged into exchange.alt.market right now. Just checked. Don't know if you still need a referral code to sign up, but I had no problem doing so when I registered a couple weeks ago when it opened.

I'm not aware of the existence of a "license to sell cryptocurrencies." AltMarket has been registered as a MSB since 2017 if that's what you mean. You can look it up on the FinCen database here: https://www.fincen.gov/fcn/financial_institutions/msb/msbstateselector.html

AltMarket is only dealing with commodities and there is no license needed to sell commodities like Tao any more than you'd need a license to sell baseball cards or t-shirts, etc. Not so with most ICO tokens on the other hand.

They have exclusive contracts with the artists they represent and as such have a monopoly on sale of the icon tokens.

Any exchange that tries to list ODBcoin or any of the six scheduled for 2019, or the ones that follow, without getting permission can be sued on behalf of the artists for unlicensed use of their image and name. Just like Kanye West sued the developers of Coinye.

The exchange is purposefully defeatured during the ODBcoin crowdsale. You can only register and buy ODBcoin currently. Trading comes later.

Remember the point is not to appeal to crypto traders but to the mainstream audience of music fans, so while the exchange features are there, they are disabled to present as simple an interface as possible for regular people. As I'm pretty sure I've explained.

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December 15, 2018, 02:20:23 AM
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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.


Reckon they have heard of Kraken since they're partnered together retard https://altmarketotc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
Also pretty big gap to say it doesn't exist when you can't find a register button https://exchange.alt.market/auth/register?referral=97dbc9a3d7774cb3a86b9958938df2f0
Also pretty hard to scam someone when you'd be liable for the equity you just gave them https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1736725/000173672518000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
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December 15, 2018, 02:33:51 AM
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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.


Reckon they have heard of Kraken since they're partnered together retard https://altmarketotc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
Also pretty big gap to say it doesn't exist when you can't find a register button https://exchange.alt.market/auth/register?referral=97dbc9a3d7774cb3a86b9958938df2f0
Also pretty hard to scam someone when you'd be liable for the equity you just gave them https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1736725/000173672518000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml


Hey man, I appreciate the reply with more info but please try to avoid name calling. He has a right to be skeptical and you'll do a much better job of convincing him if you just show the facts and be chill about it, even if he's doing some name calling himself.

Let the facts speak for themselves. He'll figure it out or he won't.

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December 15, 2018, 02:45:54 AM
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By the way, there is no Altmarket exchange! Its impossible to log in because you can't even create a profile. This is utter madness. Bryce is a lunatic to think he's the only person in America that is properly licensed to sell "shitcoins."

1. He has no such license from the SEC. If he does, please provide the license #.
2. Has he ever heard of a little exchange called Coinbase? Kraken? Poloniex?
3. His exchange doesn't even exist! What's he really "founded" besides a shell of a website?

What a clown.

 Huh I'm logged into exchange.alt.market right now. Just checked. Don't know if you still need a referral code to sign up, but I had no problem doing so when I registered a couple weeks ago when it opened.

I'm not aware of the existence of a "license to sell cryptocurrencies." AltMarket has been registered as a MSB since 2017 if that's what you mean. You can look it up on the FinCen database here: https://www.fincen.gov/fcn/financial_institutions/msb/msbstateselector.html

AltMarket is only dealing with commodities and there is no license needed to sell commodities like Tao any more than you'd need a license to sell baseball cards or t-shirts, etc. Not so with most ICO tokens on the other hand.

They have exclusive contracts with the artists they represent and as such have a monopoly on sale of the icon tokens.

Any exchange that tries to list ODBcoin or any of the six scheduled for 2019, or the ones that follow, without getting permission can be sued on behalf of the artists for unlicensed use of their image and name. Just like Kanye West sued the developers of Coinye.

The exchange is purposefully defeatured during the ODBcoin crowdsale. You can only register and buy ODBcoin currently. Trading comes later.

Remember the point is not to appeal to crypto traders but to the mainstream audience of music fans, so while the exchange features are there, they are disabled to present as simple an interface as possible for regular people. As I'm pretty sure I've explained.

if ODBcoin is a "coin" than it's minable if it's not minable it's a token :\ whats confusing?

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December 15, 2018, 03:11:13 AM
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AltMarket Exchange Adds Three Music Industry Veterans To Its Board

https://blocktribune.com/altmarket-exchange-adds-three-music-industry-veterans-to-its-board/
https://icoholder.com/en/press-releases/altmarket-creator-of-the-odbcoin-announces-addition-of-music-industry-luminaries-to-its-board

David Lotwin and Dick Wingate are new additions to AltMarket’s board. Peter Rafelson, one of AltMarket’s co-founders, is also joining.

Lotwin is one of the founders of D&D Studios, a Bronx recording studio that initially focused on freestyle and dance music. A veritable who’s who of hip-hop royalty passed through Lotwin’s studio, from KRS-One to Nas and Jay-Z.

Wingate boasts over 40 years of experience in the music and interactive industries and is the principal of DEV Advisors, an entertainment consulting firm that provides expertise to service providers, app developers, content owners and investors.

Rafelson has written and produced songs for Madonna, Jackson Brown, Stevie Nicks, Elton John and Britney Spears. His work over the years helped sell over 300 million records worldwide. Rafelson also produces and consults for various technology and media entities with his company, Rafelson Media Company. He counts Microsoft, Apple, Toshiba and Compaq among his clients.


Wiki entry on Lotwin's D&D Studios: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%26D_Studios

Wiki on Wingate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Wingate

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