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February 17, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
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found this gem about PANDA profitability

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Network hashrate = D * 2^32 / BT
D (Diff) is 150.
BT (block time in s) is 150.
so Network hashrate ~= 4.3GH/s.

With 500KH/s, which is equivalent to 1 MH/s for traditional scrypt coins, you have 0.01164% of the total hashrate.
There's currently 576 blocks per day, providing 500k pandacoin on average. So each day you're gaining ~33500 pandacoin.
33500 pandacoin is ~ 0,02345 BTC

With 1 MH/s DOGE is currently providing you 0,012 BTC per day. So with a diff of 150, pandacoin is currently twice as profitable as DOGE.

Sounds good...we might have a shot with our green cards :p

I should get one of my 240s on risers and install the 780 again.
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February 17, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Last edit: February 17, 2014, 10:55:24 AM by djm34
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UTC has reached N=10... need to see what can do the gtx780ti  at 80%tdp (can't run higher otherwise it will catch fire... who said it would take a lot of power to run a r9-290x)

after a rapid test: Z15x8 gives around 185khash
                     L2 Z30x16       full throttle 250khash/h at 80% tdp at 77C temp target: 220hash/s
For comparison R9-290x 375khash/s (at 100% tdp)

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February 17, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
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just tried to transfer pandacoin to openex... didn't work (hopefully they trade PAND and not PANDA... too bad though it's 10x the rate of the other...)

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February 17, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2014, 01:26:36 PM by bigjme
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found this gem about PANDA profitability

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Network hashrate = D * 2^32 / BT
D (Diff) is 150.
BT (block time in s) is 150.
so Network hashrate ~= 4.3GH/s.

With 500KH/s, which is equivalent to 1 MH/s for traditional scrypt coins, you have 0.01164% of the total hashrate.
There's currently 576 blocks per day, providing 500k pandacoin on average. So each day you're gaining ~33500 pandacoin.
33500 pandacoin is ~ 0,02345 BTC

With 1 MH/s DOGE is currently providing you 0,012 BTC per day. So with a diff of 150, pandacoin is currently twice as profitable as DOGE.

Think I will throw my 780 at it today. Ive been a silent watcher the past few days lmao

Hmm 180khash/s using your launch config christian. And I may have to try and get more out of it

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February 17, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
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Installed now Cuda 6.0 RC alongside 5.5. So far I don't get how I can switch to Cuda 6 instead of 5.5.
Can anybody help?

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February 17, 2014, 01:46:06 PM
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I stated Panda also... Does anyone here keep their coins? Or they exchange them at once? Do you think any of these altcoins have any real future? Like BTC and LTC? (off topic but still its a slow day :p)

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February 17, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
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I stated Panda also... Does anyone here keep their coins? Or they exchange them at once? Do you think any of these altcoins have any real future? Like BTC and LTC? (off topic but still its a slow day :p)
titties might have a real future... as far as milking is concerned... not sure as coins though...

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February 17, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
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Doge seems to be one that is sticking around at the moment

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February 17, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
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What is the best way to overclock Kepler with GPUs?

I don't think there is a "best" way to do it.

What i do is:
1. Get the best configuration possible using cuda miner
2. Set memory clock to the lowest possible point (Mine is -502).
3. Increase the GPU clock by 10.
4. Wait 15 mins to see if you have any errors
5. If no errors or driver crashes go to step 3 else go to step 6.
6. If there are driver crashes or errors reduce gpu clock by 10
7. Profit!

Thanks for the tips!
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February 17, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
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What is the best way to overclock Kepler with GPUs?

I don't think there is a "best" way to do it.

What i do is:
1. Get the best configuration possible using cuda miner
2. Set memory clock to the lowest possible point (Mine is -502).
3. Increase the GPU clock by 10.
4. Wait 15 mins to see if you have any errors
5. If no errors or driver crashes go to step 3 else go to step 6.
6. If there are driver crashes or errors reduce gpu clock by 10
7. Profit!

Thanks for the tips!
actually, setting the memory clock at -512 decreases the hashrate and it is better to keep to its nominal value.
I noticed that some times ago while experimenting on scrypt. On scrypt you might loose something like 30~50 hash/s.

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February 17, 2014, 03:23:25 PM
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What is the best way to overclock Kepler with GPUs?

I don't think there is a "best" way to do it.

What i do is:
1. Get the best configuration possible using cuda miner
2. Set memory clock to the lowest possible point (Mine is -502).
3. Increase the GPU clock by 10.
4. Wait 15 mins to see if you have any errors
5. If no errors or driver crashes go to step 3 else go to step 6.
6. If there are driver crashes or errors reduce gpu clock by 10
7. Profit!

Thanks for the tips!
actually, setting the memory clock at -512 decreases the hashrate and it is better to keep to its nominal value.
I noticed that some times ago while experimenting on scrypt. On scrypt you might loose something like 30~50 hash/s.

Depends on what you're mining...keccak uses barely any memory, so it doesn't matter.

Microcenter started selling GTX 750 and 750ti's, Msi twin forzr's in particular. I'm really tempted to get 4 of em.
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February 17, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
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Stupid question about the CUDA install.

Is it a standalone driver?

I am on driver 331.82 and when I look at the driver info I see that I have NVCUDA.DLL that says Nvidia Cuda 6.0.1 driver.

Is this the same as the Cuda 6.0 being referred to in the thread? And if not how can I tell for sure wich version of Cuda I am on?

Thanks

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February 17, 2014, 03:38:58 PM
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What is the best way to overclock Kepler with GPUs?

I don't think there is a "best" way to do it.

What i do is:
1. Get the best configuration possible using cuda miner
2. Set memory clock to the lowest possible point (Mine is -502).
3. Increase the GPU clock by 10.
4. Wait 15 mins to see if you have any errors
5. If no errors or driver crashes go to step 3 else go to step 6.
6. If there are driver crashes or errors reduce gpu clock by 10
7. Profit!

Thanks for the tips!
actually, setting the memory clock at -512 decreases the hashrate and it is better to keep to its nominal value.
I noticed that some times ago while experimenting on scrypt. On scrypt you might loose something like 30~50 hash/s.

Depends on what you're mining...keccak uses barely any memory, so it doesn't matter.

Microcenter started selling GTX 750 and 750ti's, Msi twin forzr's in particular. I'm really tempted to get 4 of em.

I am thinking hard about getting 2 of the 750ti's to replace my gtx670. Well I am hoping that one card will be about as good as the 670 in performance. Don't want a major down grade from one card.

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February 17, 2014, 03:59:14 PM
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What is the best way to overclock Kepler with GPUs?

I don't think there is a "best" way to do it.

What i do is:
1. Get the best configuration possible using cuda miner
2. Set memory clock to the lowest possible point (Mine is -502).
3. Increase the GPU clock by 10.
4. Wait 15 mins to see if you have any errors
5. If no errors or driver crashes go to step 3 else go to step 6.
6. If there are driver crashes or errors reduce gpu clock by 10
7. Profit!

If you really want to oc kepler cards, you should use nvidia inspector to force a p-state (usually p2) and set a fixed clock there.
That´s the only way your card´s turbo boost won´t interfere with overclocking. (at least for 600series cards, not sure about 700)
Turbo boost causes fluctuating clocks, unstable hashrates, a decreased max overclock and more heat/power consumption.


To understand this, you need to know how turbo boost works.
Turbo boost 1.0 (which is used in 600 series cards) sets a gpu clock according to a clock table in the graphics bios.
It determines this clock by measuring the power consumption. Nothing else.
This means by increasing the max power consumption (aka power level %) the card will clock higher.

Additionally there´s the "clock offset" which is normally used to increase the gpu clock.
But this is not actually doing what you would expect it to. It doesn´t add a given value of Mhz to the Turbo boost clock table entries.
Instead it decreases the VOLTAGE the card uses for ALL entries in the Turbo boost clock table.
Which also means any "voltage offset" you find in an oc tool does absolutely NOTHING.

And since decreased Voltages result in lower power consumption, turbo boost then sets a higher clock from its table to reach the given Power level.
Sounds stupid to you? well, it works, but it´s not the best way to overclock a gpu.


So how do you use this better way mentioned earlier? (Windows)
1. Download nvidia inspector: http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1.94-download-2612.html
    nvidia inspector has a GUI, but it lacks one important feature we need. Thats why we use command line options.
2. make a batch file with these contents:
Code:
set "NVinspectorPath=C:\.........\nvidiaInspector.exe"
start /min "Nvidia Inspector - overclock" "%NVinspectorPath%" -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,160 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,300 -setpowertarget:0,153 -setVoltageOffset:0,0,0 -setGpuClock:0,2,1220 -setMemoryClock:0,2,3304 -setFanSpeed:0,80 -forcepstate:0,2
Obviosly replace the ...... with the path to where you extracted the program.
DO NOT simply run it that way. The values you see here are the ones I use for my 660Ti. You will need to adjust them.
These options always need to consist of multiple comma separated arguments.
The first one is always the device number for which you would like to set this.
For those with three arguments like "-setGpuClock:0,2,1220" the second one is the p-state it refers to.

Since we want to stop turbo boost from interfering, we need to use a different p-state where the clock is not controlled by turbo boost.
That´s what the -forcepstate:0,2 stands for. However even then Turbo boost is still on and in control of voltages.
That´s why we need -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,160. higher values will decrease voltages.
As i´ve said, -setVoltageOffset:0,0,0 is not what controls voltages. (you can delete this with nothing changing, this is only for other cards.)
-setMemoryClock:0,2,3304 actually doesn´t do anything either, for memory you always use -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,300

And last but not least don´t forget -setpowertarget:0,153. This finally allows your card to use a set percentage of its specified TDP.
Without editing the bios you won´t be able to set a value of 153% like I do, but i´m just setting this so I can experiment with very high clocks.

For better understanding and tuning i recommend using the oc section of the GUI. It will also show your actual current clocks, temps, power consumption etc. You should also see that it says "P-state P2".


Now you´re set to optimize your OC to the max or set it to the best power-saving settings.
Also, this will help get much more consistent results for autotuning in cudaminer.

Happy OC-ing.
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February 17, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
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Microcenter started selling GTX 750 and 750ti's, Msi twin forzr's in particular. I'm really tempted to get 4 of em.

Msi twin forzr´s are NOT A GOOD IDEA.
Read my post on page 344, where i´ve exlained why.
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February 17, 2014, 04:20:34 PM
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I stated Panda also... Does anyone here keep their coins? Or they exchange them at once? Do you think any of these altcoins have any real future? Like BTC and LTC? (off topic but still its a slow day :p)
titties might have a real future... as far as milking is concerned... not sure as coins though...

I agree on Titties. The concept is great and the appeal is massive. Going back to motorboating Titties after this PANDA profitability stops.
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February 17, 2014, 04:54:13 PM
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Microcenter started selling GTX 750 and 750ti's, Msi twin forzr's in particular. I'm really tempted to get 4 of em.

Msi twin forzr´s are NOT A GOOD IDEA.
Read my post on page 344, where i´ve exlained why.

LOL I LOVE my Twin Frozr's!! But I also have tinnitus and I'll take all the white noise I can get  Cheesy

On a more serious note running 115% TDP and cards are under 60C with fans at 67%. Great cooling.
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February 17, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
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Has anyone found an effective way to mine darkcoin on NV? SGminer actually works but has pretty horrid performance.

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February 17, 2014, 05:16:27 PM
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Stupid question about the CUDA install.

Is it a standalone driver?

I am on driver 331.82 and when I look at the driver info I see that I have NVCUDA.DLL that says Nvidia Cuda 6.0.1 driver.

Is this the same as the Cuda 6.0 being referred to in the thread? And if not how can I tell for sure wich version of Cuda I am on?

Thanks

It means that your CUDA driver is likely already at the CUDA 6.0 feature level. So it can support CUDA 6.0 applications.

cudaminer is still a CUDA 5.5 application though. So no benefits expected Wink

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February 17, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
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I stated Panda also... Does anyone here keep their coins? Or they exchange them at once? Do you think any of these altcoins have any real future? Like BTC and LTC? (off topic but still its a slow day :p)
titties might have a real future... as far as milking is concerned... not sure as coins though...

I agree on Titties. The concept is great and the appeal is massive. Going back to motorboating Titties after this PANDA profitability stops.

So noone keeps his coins? I decided to keep them for the long run... even if they dont go up or lose some value it's like putting money on the side for future use...

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