2weiX
Legendary
 Offline
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1005
this space intentionally left blank
|
 |
June 06, 2013, 11:34:36 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
In order to get the maximum amount of activity points possible, you just need to post once per day on average. Skipping days is OK as long as you maintain the average.
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:36:04 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
The entire point of EU trade agreements is that you're taxed at point of sale if you reside in an EU member state, which Germany is widely known as being...! |
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful  BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp |
|
|
600watt
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:37:35 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
if you can supply them with your vat-number then there is no german vat added for you. only private consumers pay the vat. |
|
|
|
|
|
idee2013
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:41:47 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
Please read the thread. We have discussed it soooooo much times!! |
|
|
|
|
|
idee2013
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:44:03 AM |
|
NO MORE PRE ORDERS
Uhh, not sure what you mean by that. KnC provided 7 days for anyone with a pre-order to place their order and maintain pre-order queue. I think he means this: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-16yes it's only for the lottery |
|
|
|
|
|
greyhawk
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:46:40 AM |
|
NO MORE PRE ORDERS
Uhh, not sure what you mean by that. KnC provided 7 days for anyone with a pre-order to place their order and maintain pre-order queue. I think he means this: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-16yes it's only for the lottery I know. I was trying to find a possible cause of his confusion. |
|
|
|
|
|
PulsedMedia
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:49:40 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
EU *is* the freakin' VAT zone lol Unless you are purchasing as a company from other EU country, or reside outside the EU, or in one of the VAT exempt areas you have to pay VAT. If you import from outside EU, then you pay VAT at customs. Movement of goods within the EU is free, so no additional imports tax, just VAT. |
|
|
|
2weiX
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1005
this space intentionally left blank
|
|
June 06, 2013, 11:59:08 AM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
EU *is* the freakin' VAT zone lol Unless you are purchasing as a company from other EU country, or reside outside the EU, or in one of the VAT exempt areas you have to pay VAT. If you import from outside EU, then you pay VAT at customs. Movement of goods within the EU is free, so no additional imports tax, just VAT. yeah, but usually you pay the countrie's VAT that you are ordering FROM, not INTO. |
|
|
|
|
Xialla
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
/dev/null
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:02:05 PM |
|
@bitcoinrama: already ordered or still waiting?.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
naima53
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:02:17 PM |
|
|
Donate me) 16f6iWHHkVEnDReeBQPT9GwCNwUfPTXrp2
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:04:07 PM |
|
@bitcoinrama: already ordered or still waiting?.)
Daggeteo will post answers to questions hopefully later today. He's piecing together a sizeable list, also I'm planning on heading to Stockholm next week. For all intents and purposes those that went yesterday are confident these guys are capable and intend to see this through. I just want some confirmation on buyer protection... |
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp |
|
|
|
idee2013
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:04:36 PM |
|
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay "German VAT"?
Should I not pay that at CUSTOMS when IMPORTING that sucker?
Or... isn't the EU a VAT-free zone anymore?
EU *is* the freakin' VAT zone lol Unless you are purchasing as a company from other EU country, or reside outside the EU, or in one of the VAT exempt areas you have to pay VAT. If you import from outside EU, then you pay VAT at customs. Movement of goods within the EU is free, so no additional imports tax, just VAT. yeah, but usually you pay the countrie's VAT that you are ordering FROM, not INTO. but only if the seller's company is under thresholds blablabla... very last time http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/taxation/vat/traders/vat_community/vat_in_ec_annexi.pdf  NOTE: KNC has NET-PRICES at their shop. |
|
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:54:04 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! |
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp |
|
|
bitpop
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
|
|
June 06, 2013, 12:56:03 PM |
|
I've never paid anything in the usa and I get shit from all over the world daily
|
|
|
|
canth
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:05:32 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! Forget the thread. Google for import duties USA. |
|
|
|
Xialla
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
/dev/null
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:07:12 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! the reason why is this still little bit unclear is, that on the web page is price without VAT - it is really not standart approach of any kind of online business. next point is, that guys outside EU will pay about 20% less then guys from EU, which is maybe common but hardly understandable. and argument about professional miners with own VAT number was already discussed and it is really funny for me.) |
|
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:14:03 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! the reason why is this still little bit unclear is, that on the web page is price without VAT - it is really not standart approach of any kind of online business. next point is, that guys outside EU will pay about 20% less then guys from EU, which is maybe common but hardly understandable. and argument about professional miners with own VAT number was already discussed and it is really funny for me.) 25%, and VAT number will allow you to reclaim electricity costs, other associated hardware AND poss dependant on where you are and if you house the unit in your room, some rent can be reclaimed... Though you are expected to declare any exchange of BTC to fiat, as that IS profit once in known currency. |
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp |
|
|
|
alfabitcoin
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:15:37 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! the reason why is this still little bit unclear is, that on the web page is price without VAT - it is really not standart approach of any kind of online business. next point is, that guys outside EU will pay about 20% less then guys from EU, which is maybe common but hardly understandable. and argument about professional miners with own VAT number was already discussed and it is really funny for me.) For buyers outside of EU inovice should be without VAT because when item arrive in designated country customs will charge the VAT according to value in inovice + shipping. Either way, VAT will be paid in whatever country! |
|
|
|
|
|
idee2013
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:17:18 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! the reason why is this still little bit unclear is, that on the web page is price without VAT - it is really not standart approach of any kind of online business. next point is, that guys outside EU will pay about 20% less then guys from EU, which is maybe common but hardly understandable. and argument about professional miners with own VAT number was already discussed and it is really funny for me.) For buyers outside of EU inovice should be without VAT because when item arrive in designated country customs will charge the VAT according to value in inovice + shipping. +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 |
|
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
|
June 06, 2013, 01:17:51 PM |
|
As far as I know, importing to USA doesn't have any VAT or Import Fees (Duty Free Electronics)
Just some Customs fees that are pretty minimal.
Correct me if I'm wrong please I don't like surprises!
FFS read the thread, this comes up daily! the reason why is this still little bit unclear is, that on the web page is price without VAT - it is really not standart approach of any kind of online business. next point is, that guys outside EU will pay about 20% less then guys from EU, which is maybe common but hardly understandable. and argument about professional miners with own VAT number was already discussed and it is really funny for me.) For buyers outside of EU inovice should be without VAT because when item arrive in designated country customs will charge the VAT according to value in inovice + shipping. i.e. sales tax dependant on state one resides in, in the US. |
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp |
|
|
|
