Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[edwardspitz]

Just a reminder this is wall observer not war observer ok.

Everything has an impact on the price movement, not only Bitcoin but of everything, beside the thing they are talking about is really serious, what is happening now will define how the world will look in the next decade, so it is really important and dangerous at the same time.

To be honest, I survived the Algerian civil war , I came to live in Slovenia and did sense the tension of left overs of the Balkan war, but I have been never afraid and confused as I am now, I have a feeling that we are going into a 3rd world war, and the fact that I have children to worry about makes it even scarier.

It is sad that few politicians and war profiteers can make so much damage to a region. They destroyed our economy and interpersonal relationships. Good that Balkan common people are friendly and warm.

Unfortunate I have this bad feeling too.

BTW I see a lot of ex-yu guys here. Pozdrav svima!

I used to live in London where I shared a flat with couple of ex Yugoslavs. I can confirm that they are really nice people. But of course these guys had chosen to go/escape to the UK because they didn't want be a part of that insane nationalistic war.

The other day I watched pictures of the Russian convoy to Ukraine. Russia claims it is an aid convoy, and they even painted the trucks white to make them look like UN trucks. It is ridicules, but Russia is doing what all super powers do: They look after their own interests. They don't care too much for those who get in their way as long as they can spin a story that satisfies their voters.

The crisis is very real but I don't think we are close to a full scale war. If the EU implement tougher sanctions it will have an effect on Russia. Also I think there are too many interests on both sides, so no one really wants the conflict to escalate further. Putin knows this, but his ignorant supporters/voters basically allow him to push things right to the limit.

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[oda.krell]

What is driving the market, right now. During the last downturn it was pretty clear that a mixture of fear and TA were spot on. However, TA doesn't seem to be so applicable outside of a rout. So, what the hell is really driving the price, here. Is there some bad news we don't know about because there seems to not only be good news coming out, but less than priced in good news.

What was "driving the market" between end of 2011 and end of 2012?



Mostly price stagnation, and when there's finally a decent rally (to $16), it gets dumped back to half of that. And keep in mind, at that point, the "ATH" was $32, by that time about 1.5 years in the past.

So maybe that's what's going on now. Sure, the infrastructure is a lot better now, and investments have poured in by the millions, but that's the reason why we're trading in the mid 3 digits now, not lower 2 digits.

The next price level will be reached when critical mass of new investment capital is reached, speculative or usage driven, doesn't matter.

Plus, while I don't have the tools to test this hypothesis, I consider it completely possible that a price suppression regimen is in place, by large accumulating entities (i.e. buying off-exchange at roughly market price, selling a portion on-exchange to suppress market price, repeat). I know it's what I would do if I would plan to buy in to the tune of 100k coins now.

[edwardspitz]

Hello darkness 400s, my old friend / I've come to talk with you again.

We have already tested the ask walls and that did not go too well  Right now I would not mind if we tested that bidwall on Stamp.

[empowering]

(you know this guy is just taping this trident nose spike up with a bit of gaffer tape because gaffer tape fixes everything)



As you were

these guys have got our backs...  

(Ohio class + tridents and Virginia class)

(your hard earned and well spent tax payers $)

s/

It is all a game

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Omikifuse]

400's again for some seconds when I was out, but still close to no volume.

And seriously ppl posting rocket pictures at this situation?

[billyjoeallen]

I was a "nuke" on the USS Ohio. We operated the reactor plant, not the missiles.

speaking of the cold war, Brittain wants to kick Russia out of the SWIFT money transfer system. Hmmmm. I wonder what the Rooskies could use instead? Maybe some kind of distributed global asset register.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/kick-russia-out-swift-uk-demands-beware-retaliation

[empowering]

400's again for some seconds when I was out, but still close to no volume.

And seriously ppl posting rocket pictures at this situation?

(the point is not the rockets- the point is "it is all a game" and I am not talking Bitcoin)

[ensurance982]

400's again for some seconds when I was out, but still close to no volume.

And seriously ppl posting rocket pictures at this situation?

I'm always afraid when we're crossing such a psychological threshold, as I'm afraid some stop losses are being fired, that trigger some longs on margin to be liquidated. Things tend to go pretty ugly on Finex when that happens, you know

[empowering]

I was a "nuke" on the USS Ohio. We operated the reactor plant, not the missiles.

speaking of the cold war, Brittain wants to kick Russia out of the SWIFT money transfer system. Hmmmm. I wonder what the Rooskies could use instead? Maybe some kind of distributed global asset register.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/kick-russia-out-swift-uk-demands-beware-retaliation

Did the pictures make you feel nostalgic ?

(ps I note that images of the plant are non existent)

[grappa_barricata]

This game is about money. Someone want to trigger a war, ANY WAR, before it is too late, but guess what? It is too late already.
Ukraine situation has de-escalated already, people are still being drafted but it is because they started mobilizing 6 months ago and these processes are slow.
This whole Ukraine thing was to scare EU. As you can see, it has not worked i'm afraid.

Posting shitty propaganda news and pictures of nuclear rockets is not going to work.
Turn out Americans weren't that exceptional after all, don't you agree empowering?

[SheHadMANHands]

What is driving the market, right now. During the last downturn it was pretty clear that a mixture of fear and TA were spot on. However, TA doesn't seem to be so applicable outside of a rout. So, what the hell is really driving the price, here. Is there some bad news we don't know about because there seems to not only be good news coming out, but less than priced in good news.

I expect there are a TON of people transacting w/ BTC on Newegg this weekend, because of the insane $150 off a $500 order deal. 

[empowering]

This game is about money. Someone want to trigger a war, ANY WAR, before it is too late, but guess what? It is too late already.
Ukraine situation has de-escalated already, people are still being drafted but it is because they started mobilizing 6 months ago and these processes are slow.
This whole Ukraine thing was to scare EU. As you can see, it has not worked i'm afraid.

Posting shitty propaganda news and pictures of nuclear rockets is not going to work.
Turn out Americans weren't that exceptional after all, don't you agree empowering?

Ha.. I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick of what I am getting at....

Americans are not exceptional

Like I said...


All a game

(from my earlier post: I am not sure what the message is... I think they are trying to tell us something...I think they just want everyone to relax... )

anyways... Ukraine or not... the "shitty" propaganda is exactly the point ... end game?  be afraid...  thing is... is there more to come in the next move?  


Who knows....

Historically bad things happen... and they will again I am afraid game or no game... and I often ponder the meaning of media presented to me by my government... and have to ponder... what comes next.

(i.e as long as nothing goes bang, then the ISIS fear mongering tactic, is the end game.. but what if there IS(is) another move? and of that you nor I can be certain.....until it either happens or it does not, ditto for Ukraine/Russia situation and ditto for Israel/Iran situation)

Edit: also how scared do they want people to be? 9/11 scared? or a little less? or a little more? how far is this game going to go, and how any people have to pay? I do not believe we have all the answers, you nor I... but I also do not think that this game is that near the end either...

because it never stops....

[edwardspitz]

On the subject of bombs here is a clip from the movie "Dark Star" from 1974: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGRySVyTDk - This is one of the most silly uneventful movies I have ever watched (but also kind of funny). The clip is the highlight of the entire movie.

[JerryCurlzzz]

It's starting to feel like we're gonna keep testing this level until it falls. Hate to say it. I wonder if this will be like "the last time we see 500s again" -- except in reverse? I guess we'll see who among the hodlers can really hodl.

[billyjoeallen]

I was a "nuke" on the USS Ohio. We operated the reactor plant, not the missiles.

speaking of the cold war, Brittain wants to kick Russia out of the SWIFT money transfer system. Hmmmm. I wonder what the Rooskies could use instead? Maybe some kind of distributed global asset register.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/kick-russia-out-swift-uk-demands-beware-retaliation

Did the pictures make you feel nostalgic ?

(ps I note that images of the plant are non existent)

I don't miss it, to be honest. 21 hours of work a day. The pictures of the plant would be classified.

[empowering]

I was a "nuke" on the USS Ohio. We operated the reactor plant, not the missiles.

speaking of the cold war, Brittain wants to kick Russia out of the SWIFT money transfer system. Hmmmm. I wonder what the Rooskies could use instead? Maybe some kind of distributed global asset register.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/kick-russia-out-swift-uk-demands-beware-retaliation

Did the pictures make you feel nostalgic ?

(ps I note that images of the plant are non existent)

I don't miss it, to be honest. 21 hours of work a day. The pictures of the plant would be classified.

I can imagine it was hard work and an experience and a headfuck all rolled into one.. yeah that is what I wss getting at with the pics of the plant   I imagine there is only so much you yourself would be allowed to discuss.

21 hours a day... omg, guess that has put you in good stead for eyeballing Bitcoin charts  

Also I bet you could not wait to go ashore... or did you get channel fever

[grappa_barricata]

The dynamics are in plain sight, if some can look through the fog:

- non-recommendable people came into power in Ukraine
- Russia occupy Crimea
- EU countries supposed to fear about the mean in which the energy market express
- US reveal a new gas deposit that 'can feed Europe'
- Putin play the nonchalance game
- EU does nothing
- US gas deposit re-estimated at 95% less than declared by independent analysts
- a few weeks ago Ukraine and Russia start talks to officially de-escalate the situation
- US media keep reporting about tensions anyway
- Russia dump 1/3 of his American T-Bonds
- US public political figures play macho 'at ridiculous levels'
- Putin tell them to 'do some yoga and relax', also he is photographed with gold ingots in his hand

This, bear in mind, is only a tiny fraction of the game.

Another side-story, all of this in August

- Prime minister of Japan on a national holiday pay homage to WWII war criminals, that killed 10s of millions of chinese
- China complain
- US 'publicly confirm' WWII era 'military friendship' with Australia
- Prime minister of Japan talk to the Australian parliament, his words a 'de-facto military alliance' according to analysts

Then there is the ISIS situation, that i still have to gasp, but rest assured it has something to do with Saudis.

Why all of this? Because the USD is being dropped as the world reserve currency in international trades.

[Omikifuse]

It's starting to feel like we're gonna keep testing this level until it falls. Hate to say it. I wonder if this will be like "the last time we see 500s again" -- except in reverse? I guess we'll see who among the hodlers can really hodl.

Weekend is dump time.

I'm really surprised we still in the up-500 area. Was expecting dump to 490's or lower, so I guess the 500's are not weak.

[Dotto]

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