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[JayJuanGee]

Nah, I meant that if I tried to make the esoteric legal explanation, which at least opens the door to a more negative possibility, this would like be characterized as a FUD attempt. So, I simply would say that I have some concerns.

It seems as if I misunderstood you, then. 

It does seem that people use the term FUD in differing ways, and sometimes people purposefully misuse the term FUD in order to spread FUD.. or at least to create ambiguity for a discussion that should NOT be so ambiguous.

Personally, I am of the belief that the more you explain, then the less likely you should be accused of spreading FUD, unless of course you are merely just seeming to argue the one side and to mislead concerning mitigating facts or standards, or something like that.  If you are merely pointing out some administrative law or some other case law that helps to bring you to the conclusion that the Winklevii are NOT going to be approved, then those kinds of factual details could help to establish that you are actually relying on meaningful sources to reach your conclusion(s) regarding such prediction of non-approval.

Accordingly, if you were to put out some of those sources of information on a public thread, then maybe some peeps would read those sources and come to similar conclusions as you or may come to different conclusions or may be inspired to engage in further research to clarify and/or to predict.

Except for the requirement to engage in extra work for the poster, I cannot really see any downside to sharing legal and/or administrative information - except to the extent that if you are relying on secondary sources that are misquoting the actual authoritative sources.

As far as the pessimism... I am normally biased in that direction so take that with at least a grain of salt -- I am naturally a critic. That said, there are some real challenges and we may very well meet them. But, it's not like they aren't there. The further out you go, failure is always more likely than success.

Nothing wrong with being pessimistic or critical b/c it takes all kinds in this world, but sometimes people will get worn out and NOT want to hang out with you, if they conclude that you are too much of a pessimist.

I believe the further you go out, the more difficult it is to predict what is going to happen - whether it is possitive or negative; however, in the short and medium term, we do NOT need that level  of certainty about the long term future b/c it is either NOT relevant or only minimally relevant to the question in front of us today, and that is to buy, sell or hodl..

I heart the Black Market, non-regulated aspects of Bitcoin. F--- Wall Street. Bunch of bastards.

I am tending to agree with you about the need for continued development and evolution of these various black market characteristics and features.. yet, wallstreet and regulation seems to be a kind of double edged sword to bring validity and acceptance and maybe even to lessen some of the possibilities of hostility with the mainstream economy.  Some people suggest that we do NOT need them at all  (which seems to be where you are leaning and to me that seems extreme), but wallstreet and regulations do seem to lend some credibility and some potential for large scale expansion.. and in the short term such BTC markets will likely be manipulated by big financial holders until market cap exceeds gold... or some level in that $10 trillion dollar ball park..

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[2collect]

Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.

[JayJuanGee]

 

it looks like JayJuanGee is trying to "talk up" BTC

Dude's been a bull from day one. It's not like he is Rpietilla (or whatever the hell his name is) selling $100,000 magic bean coins while also looking to unload a stunning array of s---coins. JayJuanGee is alright.

hehehe.. This is almost like a compliment saying that I am NOT Rpietilla.    

[grappa_barricata]

If the ETF comes through in the next month or so, then it is absolutely right on spot to catch all those bond and stock traders looking for a way to escape the dollapocalypse that is coming their way.

That arab market too, seems to be at the right place in the right time. Oh the coincidences.

[adamstgBit]

Momentum hasn't picked up too heavily yet, but I suspect it might. We kept pounding on that 3100/500 level until it gave in. I think when we bounce next, it may become a strong resistance. We'll see, but it looks like there is more down incoming.

told ya, you have to face bitcoin's downfall sooner or later

falling STFU

i went to a crazy party last night and i said so crazy shit

but saying bitcoin was gonna go to the moon in 10 years or pretty fucking son so BUY BUY BUY!

wasn't one of them.

bitcoin is fucking Gold my friend, Gold!

deal with it.


you know this..... you know bitcoin....

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

irrelative. you know this....

honestly fuck i hope a bunch of restarts sell their gold, i need to replenish my stash really... dont mind doing that on the Cheap! Lol.

[JayJuanGee]

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

I see no walls at 500$, and I'm watching 6 fucking markets.

U gotta use your imagination.. That's what falllllllllllllllllllllllling does. 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[adamstgBit]

If the ETF comes through in the next month or so, then it is absolutely right on spot to catch all those bond and stock traders looking for a way to escape the dollapocalypse that is coming their way.

That arab market too, seems to be at the right place in the right time. Oh the coincidences.

who gives a shit about etfS MAN bitcoin! irrelative

irrelative every word

future is now

time is now

buy BuY BUY!!!

every other day.

   

[adamstgBit]

what is this sub 500 BS come on UP!
...

gooooood night!

[klee]

Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.

There are basically to ways to invest:
1) Buy when there is blood - you may catch a falling knife though
2) Buy in a rally (in the beginning, you should be able to tell when it is worth getting in) - you may get in late

Usually if you respect your fiat you choose 2)
If you invest what you can afford to lose you go with 1)

Don't accuse the 'experts' bro..

[2collect]

Momentum hasn't picked up too heavily yet, but I suspect it might. We kept pounding on that 3100/500 level until it gave in. I think when we bounce next, it may become a strong resistance. We'll see, but it looks like there is more down incoming.

told ya, you have to face bitcoin's downfall sooner or later

falling STFU

i went to a crazy party last night and i said so crazy shit

but saying bitcoin was gonna go to the moon in 10 years or pretty fucking son so BUY BUY BUY!

wasn't one of them.

bitcoin is fucking Gold my friend, Gold!

deal with it.


you know this..... you know bitcoin....

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

irrelative. you know this....

honestly fuck i hope a bunch of restarts sell their gold, i need to replenish my stash really... dont mind doing that on the Cheap! Lol.

If BTC drops further doesn't that mean the coins you bought were not that cheap? Hope your party was good.

[adamstgBit]

Momentum hasn't picked up too heavily yet, but I suspect it might. We kept pounding on that 3100/500 level until it gave in. I think when we bounce next, it may become a strong resistance. We'll see, but it looks like there is more down incoming.

told ya, you have to face bitcoin's downfall sooner or later

falling STFU

i went to a crazy party last night and i said so crazy shit

but saying bitcoin was gonna go to the moon in 10 years or pretty fucking son so BUY BUY BUY!

wasn't one of them.

bitcoin is fucking Gold my friend, Gold!

deal with it.


you know this..... you know bitcoin....

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

irrelative. you know this....

honestly fuck i hope a bunch of restarts sell their gold, i need to replenish my stash really... dont mind doing that on the Cheap! Lol.

If BTC drops further doesn't that mean the coins you bought were not that cheap? Hope your party was good.

it was a wedding!! goood party 

i said i'm all in at 520, but really i got more fiat if it drops more, i buy more! The news is terrific and so is the price so why not lol!

[grappa_barricata]

[Newbie1022]

Momentum hasn't picked up too heavily yet, but I suspect it might. We kept pounding on that 3100/500 level until it gave in. I think when we bounce next, it may become a strong resistance. We'll see, but it looks like there is more down incoming.

told ya, you have to face bitcoin's downfall sooner or later

falling STFU

i went to a crazy party last night and i said so crazy shit

but saying bitcoin was gonna go to the moon in 10 years or pretty fucking son so BUY BUY BUY!

wasn't one of them.

bitcoin is fucking Gold my friend, Gold!

deal with it.


you know this..... you know bitcoin....

sell walls at $500 are being built, soon $500 will be a unreachable target or replace the definition of "moon"

irrelative. you know this....

honestly fuck i hope a bunch of restarts sell their gold, i need to replenish my stash really... dont mind doing that on the Cheap! Lol.

If BTC drops further doesn't that mean the coins you bought were not that cheap? Hope your party was good.

it was a wedding!! goood party 

i said i'm all in at 520, but really i got more fiat if it drops more, i buy more! The news is terrific and so is the price so why not lol!

Seriously, I am considering selling my laptop and my Ipod if this keeps up. If it carries on even further my car is next.

[JayJuanGee]

Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.

If you are relying upon general overall sentiments here in this thread and on this fourm, then you are likely going to be FUCKED!!!!

You should be figuring out how to buy within comfort levels that work for you. what is your risk tolerance what is your financial profile what is your timeline.. what are your other investments etc etc etc. 

So for example, if you had $2800 to invest in BTC - one or two weeks ago, then maybe you would invest half.. and then wait and then invest a little more if the price drops...  or figure out a way that was comfortable to you and to attempt to leverage against falling prices, in the event they were to occur. 

There are almost NO bulls here that suggest that they really know what the market is going to do on a short term basis. 

I am considered a bull, and I have been investing since November 2013.. when prices were at $1200.  Currently, my average price per BTC in is about $607 per BTC.  Yet I am NOT worried b/c I did NOT over invest from my total investment package and my personal goals.  So hopefully, you did NOT over invest when you bought the 5 BTC.

If you think  fallllling is so correct and you are already scared about BTC dropping somewhat, then you probably have over invested.  Fallling does NOT really know what the fuck he is talking about... him and a few others who are just spouting off about the downfall of BTC.

In an overall bear market, trolls like fallllling are going to be correct.. but that does NOT mean that they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Anyhow, you sound a bit like a whiner.. and hopefully, you can figure out something comfortable in order that you do NOT panic sell.. but ultimately, that is up to you... currently, I continue to buy and to hodl... as do many of us who are perceived as bullish about BTC.

[2collect]

Obviously Fallling is a bit of a dick but the guy is honestly right more than any of you bulls are. Fallling why exactly do you troll so much and hate bitcoin is it because you honestly see no need for it? I finally made an account on here out of frustration because I guess I'm a "weak-hand". I buy 5 BTC a week ago because all the experts on here tell me we should start seeing some upward pressure but all I've seen is my money down the toilet and don't expect to see any actual gains any time soon. My knowledge of trading is very elementary but it appears most people's views on here are pretty out of touch with reality. Anytime you say "Cheap coins!?" because the price is dropping and then a week later it drops some more..well you messed up there didn't you because ya could have gotten them a tad bit cheaper.

There are basically to ways to invest:
1) Buy when there is blood - you may catch a falling knife though
2) Buy in a rally (in the beginning, you should be able to tell when it is worth getting in) - you may get in late

Usually if you respect your fiat you choose 2)
If you invest what you can afford to lose you go with 1)

Don't accuse the 'experts' bro..

I made a hefty penny off the last big rally in May. If I had kept my btc I would have lost any gains whatsoever by now.

[Hunyadi]

If you buy bitcoins you should expect extreme volatility. The market is still very young.

[escalicha]

No one are speaking about btc-e trades? crazy boot? No fee? xD

[bitcodo]

That btc-e volume

[Searing]

Well hopped on and got .36 BTC at $495.25 on coinbase...... for the sole purpose of popping my cherry to have over 50 BTC now.

Just a heads up ...I always punch the ticket too soon..it will likely fall more...just watch...

anyway got 50 coin now.... managed to squeak (maybe) out of minnow status?

this catching a falling knife stuff is tricky

Searing