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November 15, 2016, 01:41:44 PM

Yes Bitcoin needs institutional investors to become great again
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November 15, 2016, 02:00:29 PM

Yes Bitcoin needs institutional investors to become great again

No, it doesn't.
Bitcoin doesn't need institutional investors to be great.
Institutional investors need Bitcoin if they want to be institutional investors.
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November 15, 2016, 02:48:36 PM

Realistically speaking the bitcoin price will have to become much much higher once those institutional investors get involved, right?

If they wanna buy real bitcoins instead of some shitty papers claiming to represent real bitcoins I would assume yes, the price will have to be much higher.
It will be very interesting to see how things will look like when first ETFs are being approved, if ever.Then we might get a first glimpse where we could head to.
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November 15, 2016, 03:12:11 PM


Or a short pump, maybe.

Other important news resulted only in a pump, at least for some good time.

The real effect took some time to really take effect
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Sometimes you post some insightful shit, but then other times you post pure shit.. It's like you could be kind of smart, but you are lacking some insight because you believe in astrology or something?  Hm?

And I think others here would agree with me, that *everything* you post here is pure shit.  You have not asserted one thing on this thread, not one, that has any real merit, with any facts or plausible arguments to back up anything that spews from your mouth.

I would say that you could be kind of smart, but really sound more like a condescending narcissistic douchebag than smart, that thinks way more of himself, if you really reflect on it, and really just continues to speak in a circular, rambling fashion in order to try to sound smart, but really just, you know, comes off as sounding more and more like a complete jackass than really like a smart person, to any sort of degree of smartness rather than insightfulness. To the degree that one could be insightful instead of a jackass, you aren't.
(gee, do I sound familiar to anyone?   Roll Eyes)

You just come in here to either a) try to slam someone else for something they said, in a condescending high-and-mighty manner, or b) to ramble on and on about the merits of investing in bitcoin, which ANY sane person knows how to do, and ANY person here already has done, because they already think that bitcoin is a good, long term investment.  So you're really not adding anything to that conversation at all, other than your constant preaching of your idiotic methodology of "buying on the way down, and selling on the way up" which really couldn't be more stupid.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

/r3kt
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November 15, 2016, 03:48:26 PM

When both the BTC/USD value and your local currency value to the dollar just keeps going up

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We could be about to make another run at it.

4 and 6 hour chart momentums now crossed over to the upside. 12 hour chart just on the verge. $700 launch pad.

Looks promising. We need 2 break that all important 5180.

I haven't been able to post my whale graphic yet. I made it weeks ago and thought I'd be able to deploy it then but the trading balked just on the cusp of breaking through resistance.

I remain hopeful.
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November 15, 2016, 04:35:25 PM

Yes Bitcoin needs institutional investors to become great again

No, it doesn't.
Bitcoin doesn't need institutional investors to be great.
Institutional investors need Bitcoin if they want to be institutional investors.

What I posted wasn't my view but what might be  posted by a fiat lover in response to that post by fearless leader. 

All my fiat goes to either necessities (self defined  ofc ) or crypto. 


Btc +62% YTD
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November 15, 2016, 05:06:57 PM

Top o' the mornin' Bitcoinland.

Creeping ever so slowly in the right direction... $714 at Bitcoinaverage.

Time to get moving up again?

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November 15, 2016, 06:41:35 PM

Yes Bitcoin needs institutional investors to become great again

No, it doesn't.
Bitcoin doesn't need institutional investors to be great.
Institutional investors need Bitcoin if they want to be institutional investors.

What I posted wasn't my view but what might be  posted by a fiat lover in response to that post by fearless leader.  

All my fiat goes to either necessities (self defined  ofc ) or crypto.  


Btc +62% YTD

Becoin said a good thing... because if you take a look and think clearly... not even gold or silver holds a relative stable value! For example if we decide to go back to gold, silver & copper coins as currency... Then what is to stop an alien race and to bring tons of gold and buy us out?? Smiley ... But on the other hand BTCitcoin ... well... it stores value and you need productivity to increase your amount of biTcoin.
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November 15, 2016, 07:02:00 PM

Earwig. Lo.

Possible Trump-NASDAQ-fuelled main engine ignition incoming with helpful nudge from collapsing offshore Yuan. SRB's will kick in @ 5180 according to my advanced theory.

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November 15, 2016, 07:11:24 PM

Bearstamp is higher than finex  Shocked
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November 15, 2016, 07:17:31 PM

Are these guys coming onboard?
China pumps + India Pumps...  Shocked Shocked Shocked

The moon is near.
If the people recognize the true value of financial freedom that comes with bitcoin there's no limit for our beloved coin.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/15/india-rupee-restriction-boost-bitcoin-digital-currency.html
Let them buy
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November 15, 2016, 07:19:04 PM

You just sit tight and watch the hidden dynamics of the halving unfold... Wink

This beast taking off in approximately 10 days.

In 4-5 hours it will set that 666$ number for the history books on the charts... Then it will do something stupid and jump $50+ in a short amount of time.
666$ ;DD
Long time ago haha, i would like to see it back to 600$ again, i need to buy some...
Anyway this is not anything big, im sure we had 666$ many times already Wink
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November 15, 2016, 07:36:57 PM

Are these guys coming onboard?
China pumps + India Pumps...  Shocked Shocked Shocked

The moon is near.
If the people recognize the true value of financial freedom that comes with bitcoin there's no limit for our beloved coin.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/15/india-rupee-restriction-boost-bitcoin-digital-currency.html
Let them buy

People need to buy cheap coins whilst they can. There are going to be a lot of very disappointed people when the train leaves cheap coin platform for the last time.

Don't get left behind.

HODL
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November 15, 2016, 07:59:53 PM

Don't get left behind.

HODL

Indeed. But don't just hold.

Accumulate!

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November 15, 2016, 09:50:31 PM

that bitcoin disruptive stuff seems bullish, some people think it's the future
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November 15, 2016, 11:17:57 PM

Yea, also for the skeptical people it shouldn't be too hard to figure out that bitcoin is underpriced. I mean how many people truly know about bitcoin? Most folks I know are clueless. This is just the beginning.
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November 16, 2016, 12:18:42 AM

Sometimes you post some insightful shit, but then other times you post pure shit.. It's like you could be kind of smart, but you are lacking some insight because you believe in astrology or something?  Hm?

And I think others here would agree with me, that *everything* you post here is pure shit.  

The royal "we" agrees.  Sounds a bit exaggerated to me.



You have not asserted one thing on this thread, not one, that has any real merit, with any facts or plausible arguments to back up anything that spews from your mouth.

Sounds like you are getting a little bit defensive.  Probably would be a little better if you were referring to a specific post.  Posters here provide facts, logic and opinion, so depending on the post, I may have been providing opinion.  Otherwise, without specifics, it is a bit difficult to understand what you are talking about, besides that you are upset.



I would say that you could be kind of smart, but really sound more like a condescending narcissistic douchebag than smart, that thinks way more of himself, if you really reflect on it, and really just continues to speak in a circular, rambling fashion in order to try to sound smart, but really just, you know, comes off as sounding more and more like a complete jackass than really like a smart person, to any sort of degree of smartness rather than insightfulness. To the degree that one could be insightful instead of a jackass, you aren't.
(gee, do I sound familiar to anyone?   Roll Eyes)

Sounds like you are just spouting off nonsense.  You are mad because I made some criticisms of your arguments, and then you start calling names and engaging in ad hominem attacks rather than substance.



You just come in here to either a) try to slam someone else for something they said, in a condescending high-and-mighty manner,

You are one that I criticized, and I have been attempting to criticize your arguments, not you, but you seem to easily get on some kind of ad hominem tangent... and defensive, at that.


or b) to ramble on and on about the merits of investing in bitcoin, which ANY sane person knows how to do,
and ANY person here already has done, because they already think that bitcoin is a good, long term investment.

Sure there could be some folks that agree with your generalization, here, but I would expect that the truth of the matter is that there are a lot of varying perspectives, and even posters who have similar perspectives are going to apply their approach differently under different circumstances.  Even though I am becoming more and more established in some of my trade practices, even I am not really sure, sometimes whether I am going to tweak some of my actual application or to change my strategy a bit based on news, market conditions or even some things going on in my life.



 So you're really not adding anything to that conversation at all, other than your constant preaching of your idiotic methodology of "buying on the way down, and selling on the way up" which really couldn't be more stupid.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Hey, aren't you kind of contradicting yourself here?  First you say that we all agree about the approach and that I am not adding any value, and then you say that my approach is not as good as some other approaches.  At least it sounds like you kind of have a grasp of the crux of my approach, which is like you said buying on the way down and selling on the way up.  I don't claim to have any kind of unique approach, and there are a lot of folks who subscribe to similar practices.  Furthermore there are folks who disagree and they also individualize their approach with similar and different strategies.  Part of the reason that I participate in this thread is to get feedback on my approach, and I will sometimes tweak it around a bit - even though I still consider that my approach is working pretty well for my particular circumstances, and sometimes folks let me know that they have benefitted from brainstorming with me about the good bad and ugly of my sometimes evolving approach (that has an overall tendency to buy on the way down and to sell on the way up, as you said).

 Also, with any attempt to apply any general principle or approach, there is some devils in the details, too.  So it is a bit more complicated than just buying on the way down and selling on the way up, even though that is the thrust of the matter.




/r3kt

Here, your conclusion does not seem to be supported by anything.  You get emotional, spout out a bunch of mostly nonsensical defensive and ad hominem attacks, and then claim that I am "r3kt."  There is little to no connection there, and furthermore, in your ranting emotion, you have a tendency to get diverted away from substantively addressing anything that I said in my previous posts. in other words, you don't address issues and you attack... That is hardly any kind of "r3kt" outcome of me, my arguments or anyone/thing else. Seems like pie in the sky wishful thinking continuing from you.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy


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November 16, 2016, 12:39:20 AM

Yes Bitcoin needs institutional investors to become great again

No, it doesn't.
Bitcoin doesn't need institutional investors to be great.
Institutional investors need Bitcoin if they want to be institutional investors.

What I posted wasn't my view but what might be  posted by a fiat lover in response to that post by fearless leader. 

All my fiat goes to either necessities (self defined  ofc ) or crypto. 


Btc +62% YTD


If you assert that BTC is up 62% this calendar year, then even though accurate, isn't that a bit of an artificial abstraction - although for tax purposes, there are many folks that file based on calendar years, and accordingly they will frame their BTC activities (and other investments in such calendar year terms).

Maybe also there are some concerns regarding how to report (and what kind of accounting to do) to keep track of such investments, especially when it comes time to "realize" some or all of the profits?
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