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[realr0ach]

HOLY Fucking MOLEY, Roach!!!!!!

Looks like a lot of gold in those images.  

Perhaps close to 100 BTC worth.     or at least in the near future, 100 BTC worth.

Neither Russia, JP Morgan, nor r0ach accept bitcoin for silver JayJuanGee, you asshole.  What kind of idiot would trade the base of Exter's pyramid for an imaginary token based on artificial scarcity?

[JayJuanGee]

HOLY Fucking MOLEY, Roach!!!!!!

Looks like a lot of gold in those images.  

Perhaps close to 100 BTC worth.     or at least in the near future, 100 BTC worth.

Neither Russia, JP Morgan, nor r0ach accept bitcoin for silver JayJuanGee, you asshole.  What kind of idiot would trade the base of Exter's pyramid for an imaginary token based on artificial scarcity?

Perhaps you are correct that "Neither Russia, JP Morgan, nor r0ach accept bitcoin for silver"   but I am sure that there are plenty of other folks who are a whole hell of a lot smarter than you dumb-asses.    Sorry for your failure/refusal (and the failure/refusal of some other dumb shits) to recognize value.    

[realr0ach]

Artificial scarcity does not have value, JayJuanGee.  It's inherently a valueless scheme/scam.  Just because it's possible to sometimes profit by joining the game of hot potato while praying you're not the one left holding the bag on imaginary tokens, doesn't alter the fundamental traits of what it is.

[bitserve]

Negative interest rates levied by Central Banks during the GFC demonstrate that interest does not have to be paid for the money to exist.

Money has something called a time opportunity cost.  Nobody lends to others with nothing in return.  Negative interest rates are essentially the creditor paying the debtor to borrow haha.  No, 0% interest rates and especially negative interest rates are impossible to function.  This is only a sign the system has already collapsed and they're just stalling right now to try and hash out some sort of false flag to pin the blame on someone else.  This is an evil jewish cult you're dealing with here.  They will be forced to revalue metals in the end, but they will try every scam in the book possible first to avoid it or divert blame.

When someone stores your silver for you, don't they charge you what could be considered a negative interest?

ie: https://www.bullionvault.com/help/tariff.html

First of all, there is no actual purpose in buying metals you don't store yourself whether it's allocated or unallocated.  Things like the Comex for instance already have in the small print that they can cash you out for fiat whenever they want.  So they can just write you a check for $17 silver or $1300 gold and then just take all your stuff and instantly revalue it to $600 silver and $10,000 gold right afterwards.  They will likely try to do that to ANYONE who has their stuff in a vault they don't control.  Secondly, I was storing all of mine inside a 10 foot aluminum bass boat and tried to reel in a grouper over the Marianas Trench.  The weight was off-balance and the whole damn boat just did a back flip and all of it was lost.

I do agree with the physical owning preference... but then we would have to come back to the argument about how inconvenient it is to store just a couple million dollar in silver.... And, you can store "physical" fiat yourself without paying negative interest rate (inflation aside).

Yeah, boat accidents happen...... Good luck explaining the tax agency how did you manage to recover it all from the deep of Marianas if you ever decide to use it to buy some real estate, stocks, or whatever state controlled/registered assets.

OTH, suddenly remembering the password to some Bitcoin wallet that was previously suppossedly gone, would be a bit easier to explain (not without some effort and pain)

[realr0ach]

I do agree with the physical owning preference... but then we would have to come back to the argument about how inconvenient it is to store just a couple million dollar in silver

That's a dumb argument.  It's like claiming someone is willing to sell you brand new cars for $1 each but it's just too inconvenient to find somewhere to put them all so you must refuse!  It's an inverse bubble, aka asymmetric trade, aka free money.  It's also like claiming that you should be able to own the whole planet while having no way to defend it against all other life forms.  Possession and ability to secure the asset matters.  If you are unable to secure it, you don't actually own it.

It's too bad people make believe holding a bitcoin private key is somehow taking delivery of the good when it's not.  There's no such thing as cloud computing, only uploading your shit to someone else's computer you don't control.  It is not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin because it exists as a virtual loaf of broad with built-in middlemen who can deny you access to it and refuse to process your transaction or hold you hostage for absurd fees, among other issues.

Transactions are blinded in Monero so they can't randomly label anyone who resists the efforts of evil jewish money changers as "terrorists" to freeze your account, but you still have a network of built-in middlemen that you have to pray doesn't implode or some software bug doesn't happen.  All of it is junk compared to metals and nothing in craptocurrency removes middlemen or actually allows you to take delivery.

[Bloomie]

I wonder why you spend so much time talking on a Bitcoin forum if you hate cryptocurrency so much. Don't you have anything better to do with your time bro? 

[TERA2]

I wonder why you spend so much time talking on a Bitcoin forum if you hate cryptocurrency so much. Don't you have anything better to do with your time bro? 

Maybe he's shorting. This is a trader forum. It's not like it's the development and technical discussion board.

[realr0ach]

I wonder why you spend so much time talking on a Bitcoin forum if you hate cryptocurrency so much. Don't you have anything better to do with your time bro?  

Why are you worried that someone is telling the truth about economics, metals, and bitcoin?  Or is the truth dangerous to you?  The goal is for the goyim to dump this garbage at the top for silver and leave Goldman Sachs and the yids holding the bag on this worthless, designed to centralize, imaginary token garbage based on artificial scarcity.

[DaRude]

I know this is off topic, but it appears someone spammed the BCH mempool, recently. It appears some of the pools are electing to only mine 1MB blocks, others 2MB blocks and a couple the full 8 MB blocks.  

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/cash/#24h

What's the point of having big blocks when one of the mystery miners will only mine 1MB blocks?

It's relevant, methinks!

BCH Peeps spamming the BTC mempool affect BTC price & movement, so turnabout is fair play.

Especially after enduring all the Bcash & other altcoin garbage posted on this BTC thread...

I'm waiting for them to remove the blocksize so i can store DVD of matrix in their blockchain forever!

[JayJuanGee]

Artificial scarcity does not have value, JayJuanGee.  It's inherently a valueless scheme/scam.  Just because it's possible to sometimes profit by joining the game of hot potato while praying you're not the one left holding the bag on imaginary tokens, doesn't alter the fundamental traits of what it is.

Holey Fucking Moley, again, Roach... You are making me repeat myself regarding your seeming self-imposed blindness.

You have been posting about bitcoin for four years - giving the benefit of the doubt that you are the same person from your previous account, and that you did not sell your account, even though you may have sold your bitcoins a bit too early (less than $500-ish)  

Anyhow, my point is that even you should understand that bitcoin is not magical internet money - and there is more fundamentals to it than that.  You are not that retarded - and that is why you are a fucking distracting shill troll, who merely attempts to distract us with a bunch of bullshit discussions and mischaracterizations that both overvalue PMs and undervalue cryptos.

Yeah, wrapped your self-selective racist pinhead around the idea that bitcoin.. yeah we are talking about bitcoin... -- bitcoin is bringing some asset class to the table that has never fucking ever been employed before, which can be summarized as a "secure permissionless and immutable mechanism to store and transfer value"  We have no other fucking asset class like bitcoin in the world.  Sure there are some that are similar and sure there are some that are comparable and sure there are some that are attempting to imitate or dethrone bitcoin, but still bitcoin remains king of the cryptos and so far resilient to the multitude and varied attacks that have been wielded upon it, including your contributions to such disinformation and distraction campaigns.  

Bitcoin was the one that started this whole thing off with the resolution of the byzantine generals problem and causing a system that does not allow for double spending.  that is a real scarcity, even if you want to argue such scarcity to be "artificial"

Sure you play a role, and sure some folks might believe folks like you, but sooner or later and deeper and deeper the realization is sinking in that bitcoin is providing something solid, strong and substantial, and all of your naysaying and denials are going to look ridiculous in retrospect - and similar how lacking in insight it appears for you to have sold many (perhaps all ) your BTC under $500.

You still have a chance to save yourself and to jump on the bitcoin train before it is too late, but perhaps either you are not going to or you are secretly investing into bitcoin in spite of your getting paid to spread nonsense and to make a name for yourself with your idiotic distracting racist "contributions" - if we can be so charitable as to characterize what you do as "contributions."  

[Lontonbit]

Global artificial intelligence created bitcoin to harness huge computational power, singularity and AI takeover has begun! See you all in the after life!

[JayJuanGee]

I wonder why you spend so much time talking on a Bitcoin forum if you hate cryptocurrency so much. Don't you have anything better to do with your time bro?  

Maybe he's shorting. This is a trader forum. It's not like it's the development and technical discussion board.

One troll supporting another troll.    

[realr0ach]

JayJuanGee, I did not sell my account you turd.  Me and numerous other people in the thread all got their accounts stolen somehow right around the time they added google captcha to this site.  I think TERA's acct got stolen too.  As I recall, you also got your account stolen at the same time.  I've yet to see anyone explain how all these people simultaneously got their accts stolen without the site being compromised.

[Phil_S]

Possession and ability to secure the asset matters.  If you are unable to secure it, you don't actually own it.

I think it's pretty hard to secure even $1mil worth of silver.

Very heavy, req. lots of digging, etc.

[realr0ach]

Possession and ability to secure the asset matters.  If you are unable to secure it, you don't actually own it.

I think it's pretty hard to secure even $1mil worth of silver.

Very heavy, req. lots of digging, etc.

Do you people even lift?  Kyle Bass owns $1 million dollars of nickels.

[JayJuanGee]

JayJuanGee, I did not sell my account you turd.

You are the turd.

 Me and numerous other people in the thread all got their accounts stolen somehow right around the time they added google captcha to this site.  I think TERA's acct got stolen too.  

I am not even talking about that you turd.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to be the same roach as previously and also giving you the benefit of the doubt that while you had the account "roach" that even during that time, you had not sold that other account either (along with your bitcoins below $500)

As I recall, you also got your account stolen at the same time. 

Yes, I did get my account stolen, but I think that my account was stolen much earlier than yours was stolen  (mine was stolen in about September 2016 and your was stolen in mid 2017 - right?)..... but anyhow, I am NOT even talking about that.  I am not doubting you to be the same stupid-ass roach... but within your roach account, you could have sold some time around the time that you sold your bitcoins - early 2016 - or perhaps earlier - , but I am kind of giving the benefit of the doubt there, too.

I've yet to see anyone explain how all these people simultaneously got their accts stolen without the site being compromised.

Now you are off on another distracting topic.  What else are you saying about this site?  Is it either relevant or important to other points that you are making (not that your other stupid trolling points are very relevant, either)?

[Phil_S]

It's not impossible to move 600 or so 100oz silver bars, but it's very inconvenient. Even if you dig a hole in a ground, someone might see you. Or government will take your land via eminent domain. Or something Venezuela-level happens nationwide, and your better leave the country asap. Crossing the border with 600 of 100oz silver bars would be impossible, even if you lift a lot.

[somac.]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

[windjc]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

What is Bitcoin Atom?

[somac.]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

What is Bitcoin Atom?

Its just another fork. That's all I know.