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[svdleer]

How on earth does Kraken always have problems? Can't they upgrade their servers?

they did, the past 2 days.

[xhomerx10]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys. 

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

[AlexGR]

226 bytes x 470 bytes / 100.000.000 x 14400$ = 15.29$.

And that's for the fastest type of transaction.

At 130 sat/byte you get a confirmation in ~3-4 hours and the fee is 4.2$.

Someone is miscalculating your fees, or you have a lot of dust amounts.

Do you have to assign a segwit address to get those fees?

Last time I sent from my QT wallet, I paid 0.00179btc for moving 0.18btc. By the current price this is 26$. It was a standard 6-block confirmation fee.

No, these are fees for standard txs. Segwit get a discount.

Btw, value transferred doesn't matter. You may transfer 1$ or 1mn $$$ . What's important is the size of the transaction in terms of bytes.

[erre]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys. 

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

This. And after that it usually ask for the bither password.
If you still have problems you can open a thread and link it here, I'll help you

[Ibian]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys. 

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

That worked. Now to scan them all and see if there is any gold to dig up... Should I import the compressed or uncompressed address?

[greensheep]

seems kraken has some problems with some coins and there value, EOS is now at 3000 ish for example... a brief moment I was so happy

[xhomerx10]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys. 

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

That worked. Now to scan them all and see if there is any gold to dig up... Should I import the compressed or uncompressed address?

 Probably uncompressed but make sure the address you select matches the Bitcoin address you scanned the private key's QRcode for and you'll be fine.

[Ibian]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys. 

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

That worked. Now to scan them all and see if there is any gold to dig up... Should I import the compressed or uncompressed address?

 Probably uncompressed but make sure the address you select matches the Bitcoin address you scanned the private key's QRcode for and you'll be fine.

Compressed corresponds to the public key. Uncompressed doesn't correspond to the public or private key.

[pfrtlpfmpf]

Mmpf, how would ever a "normal" user come to grips with all that shit. Tell me !
We´re in our own universe here, but thats not the mainstream, is it ?

[xhomerx10]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys.  

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

That worked. Now to scan them all and see if there is any gold to dig up... Should I import the compressed or uncompressed address?

 Probably uncompressed but make sure the address you select matches the Bitcoin address you scanned the private key's QRcode for and you'll be fine.

Compressed corresponds to the public key. Uncompressed doesn't correspond to the public or private key.

 If the private key begins with K or L then use compressed.  If it begins with 5, use uncompressed.

Edit.  I just realized you said compressed corresponds to the public key - that's the one to use.
Sorry, I'm playing with Kraken as well and I think they just enabled trading again.

[explorer]

..., I'm playing with Kraken as well and I think they just enabled trading again.

Release the toaster!111

[Biro Bob]

Does Roach just get his posts from some sort of random bullshit generator?

I'm not sure. He keeps saying the same thing "This user is currently ignored."

[xhomerx10]

..., I'm playing with Kraken as well and I think they just enabled trading again.

Release the toaster!111

 Please!  It's new and improved...

[Biro Bob]

75 dollars fee on a 75 dollars tx. WAT.

That seems really high. I just paid $11 (0.0008) and got a confirmation in under 30 minutes.

[Ibian]

BTG is gettin a little pump. .02 now on bittrex. I'm dreaming of .05

Speaking of, is there a reliable way to extract them from old coins?

Coinomi app wallet is 0retty simple and secure, if you move your btc first.

Tried that with bcash, didn't work. Had to use a btc.com wallet to extract those. Possibly because it was from a pretty old electrum wallet? I know they changed format once or twice.

It You need to recover from seed use bither app. You can also claim bcd and sbtc with it.
If you have problems pm me and I will be glad to help you

Edit: if your old private keys didn't worked in coinomi, your problem is probably related to compressed/uncompressed format, you can convert the format using bitaddress.org.

During the early fork days I helped out a lot of people, I become some kind of expert xd

Alright, got bither running (on a spare phone). Set up a wallet and tried to scan my private keys from electrum, but apparently they are not in bip38 format? What do?

Are they unencrypted?
If Yes, just click "wallet details" in bitaddress.org (better use it offline, the github source for download is linked on the site itself) and use their tool to convert them


EDIT: Before messing with this, try the other import priv key (not bip38) option!

I tried the other option, but it just demands a password (which is not what I set for the wallet) and doesn't move on from there.

 Not your Electrum wallet password but the Bither password.
If you have nothing in Bither, uninstall, reinstall and remember your password this time.  It works.

It's not my bither wallet password it wants, it's something else.

 No it isn't something else.  You have to enter the Bither wallet password to import the private keys.  

And when I do that it doesn't accept it. Yes it's the correct password, it is very simple and memorable. It asked for it before I had even set a password as well.

 Are trying to scan the QRcode for your electrum wallet seed?  Don't do that.
You have to view your addresses in Electrum, right click on them and view each one's private key separately.  Open the QRcode for it and scan it with the Bither wallet using the advanced options and
 then Import Private Key and then select From Private Key Text and scan it in.
 

That worked. Now to scan them all and see if there is any gold to dig up... Should I import the compressed or uncompressed address?

 Probably uncompressed but make sure the address you select matches the Bitcoin address you scanned the private key's QRcode for and you'll be fine.

Compressed corresponds to the public key. Uncompressed doesn't correspond to the public or private key.

 If the private key begins with K or L then use compressed.  If it begins with 5, use uncompressed.

Edit.  I just realized you said compressed corresponds to the public key - that's the one to use.
Sorry, I'm playing with Kraken as well and I think they just enabled trading again.

Alright, imported the priv keys from a wallet that used to hold about 10 btc but it only shows about 3 btg as getable. Weird, but at least it's something. Thanks guys, gonna keep playing with this.

One final question, I only need to import the keys that have >0 tx right?

[mymenace]

One reason price might follow difficulty is that mining should not be too profitable (because nothing should be too profitable, the world doesn't leave free money lying around). Therefore the price of Bitcoins can't rise too much above the cost of mining (counting equipment depreciation among the costs of course). The cost of mining is proportional to the difficulty (approximately). Therefore we might expect to see price proportional to difficulty.

We do see a nearly proportional relationship in the 1st graph, but that data set was incomplete. I'd like to see that last graph redone with a linear difficulty scale so we could see how the proportionality holds up with more data.

https://blockchain.info/charts/market-price?timespan=all


https://blockchain.info/charts/difficulty?timespan=all

[pfrtlpfmpf]

Does Roach just get his posts from some sort of random bullshit generator?

I'm not sure. He keeps saying the same thing "This user is currently ignored."

Yeah, but i´m not sure about his motivations. Well no, he´s just an asshole. What can i say . . . 

[mymenace]

..."Current estimates of total worldwide household wealth that I have found range from $100 trillion to $300 trillion. With 20 million coins, that gives each coin a value of about $10 million."....

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10152.html

[pfrtlpfmpf]

..."Current estimates of total worldwide household wealth that I have found range from $100 trillion to $300 trillion. With 20 million coins, that gives each coin a value of about $10 million."....

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10152.html

What you´re saying ?  I´m a rich bitch, or, . . . naah

[Dabs]

Does Roach just get his posts from some sort of random bullshit generator?

I'm not sure. He keeps saying the same thing "This user is currently ignored."

Yeah, but i´m not sure about his motivations. Well no, he´s just an asshole. What can i say . . .  

I don't have anyone on ignore. For awhile I read what he had to say, even went through his whole blog. In the end, none of it made sense to me, there are many errors both in logic and in certain assumptions, and he keeps repeating the same things over and over.

No, the random bs generator is built into his brain or something. That's just how he thinks, or how he expresses himself.

But I'm a nice guy, I'll feed the troll enough just so he doesn't starve, but everything he says is junk. I don't even know why he sticks around. (wait, maybe because we keep feeding him.)