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[realr0ach]

JayJuanGee, I did not sell my account you turd.  Me and numerous other people in the thread all got their accounts stolen somehow right around the time they added google captcha to this site.  I think TERA's acct got stolen too.  As I recall, you also got your account stolen at the same time.  I've yet to see anyone explain how all these people simultaneously got their accts stolen without the site being compromised.

[Phil_S]

Possession and ability to secure the asset matters.  If you are unable to secure it, you don't actually own it.

I think it's pretty hard to secure even $1mil worth of silver.

Very heavy, req. lots of digging, etc.

[realr0ach]

Possession and ability to secure the asset matters.  If you are unable to secure it, you don't actually own it.

I think it's pretty hard to secure even $1mil worth of silver.

Very heavy, req. lots of digging, etc.

Do you people even lift?  Kyle Bass owns $1 million dollars of nickels.

[JayJuanGee]

JayJuanGee, I did not sell my account you turd.

You are the turd.

 Me and numerous other people in the thread all got their accounts stolen somehow right around the time they added google captcha to this site.  I think TERA's acct got stolen too.  

I am not even talking about that you turd.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to be the same roach as previously and also giving you the benefit of the doubt that while you had the account "roach" that even during that time, you had not sold that other account either (along with your bitcoins below $500)

As I recall, you also got your account stolen at the same time. 

Yes, I did get my account stolen, but I think that my account was stolen much earlier than yours was stolen  (mine was stolen in about September 2016 and your was stolen in mid 2017 - right?)..... but anyhow, I am NOT even talking about that.  I am not doubting you to be the same stupid-ass roach... but within your roach account, you could have sold some time around the time that you sold your bitcoins - early 2016 - or perhaps earlier - , but I am kind of giving the benefit of the doubt there, too.

I've yet to see anyone explain how all these people simultaneously got their accts stolen without the site being compromised.

Now you are off on another distracting topic.  What else are you saying about this site?  Is it either relevant or important to other points that you are making (not that your other stupid trolling points are very relevant, either)?

[Phil_S]

It's not impossible to move 600 or so 100oz silver bars, but it's very inconvenient. Even if you dig a hole in a ground, someone might see you. Or government will take your land via eminent domain. Or something Venezuela-level happens nationwide, and your better leave the country asap. Crossing the border with 600 of 100oz silver bars would be impossible, even if you lift a lot.

[somac.]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

[windjc]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

What is Bitcoin Atom?

[somac.]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

What is Bitcoin Atom?

Its just another fork. That's all I know.

[oblox]

Bitcoin Atom futures are up around $1300, I'm sure it's just because it's the futures market with little volume on a dodgy exchange. But, does anyone here know if Bitcoin Atom is any better than any of the other forks? and would it justify a higher price?

What is Bitcoin Atom?

One of the latest flavor-of-the-week BTC forks.

[realr0ach]

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to be the same roach as previously and also giving you the benefit of the doubt that while you had the account "roach" that even during that time, you had not sold that other account

[JayJuanGee]

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to be the same roach as previously and also giving you the benefit of the doubt that while you had the account "roach" that even during that time, you had not sold that other account

And, follow the advices of Roachie poachie.


He will help you to better understand bitcoin and any other supposedly relevant and important topics.   

[realr0ach]

It's not impossible to move 600 or so 100oz silver bars, but it's very inconvenient. Even if you dig a hole in a ground, someone might see you. Or government will take your land via eminent domain. Or something Venezuela-level happens nationwide, and your better leave the country asap. Crossing the border with 600 of 100oz silver bars would be impossible, even if you lift a lot.

The weight is irrelevant.  Like I said, it's like complaining someone is willing to sell you brand new cars for $1 then complaining you have no place to store them or that you're having a hard time trying to bench press the car. Silver is a highly leveraged play on gold without being required to have the exchange counter party risk.  It's the same thing as saying "I would never purchase 1 ton of gold for $100 an ounce because there's just no way i could move it all".  If you want to maximize profits you will figure out how to make those noodle arms function.

I forgot to mention the fact that most people attempting to buy large amounts of silver fail to be able to source it in the first place a lot of times (Eric Sprott type of people).  A lot of these dealers will only have something like this as their entire stock of silver eagles.  It's only a $40 billion market cap as opposed to bitcoin's $230 billion, so any random guy that shows up wanting to buy a million dollars worth might be the final straw the breaks the camel's back, or sends premiums from $1-2 to $5+ with 3 month waiting lists:

[TERA2]

We're never going to buy into your silver talk because we're all vampires!

[AlexGR]

AlexGR, you don't seem to understand the fact that paper money, especially fiats issued as debt, always implode and then people enter the vaults to square up the existing debts and claims vs a new peg.  You either balance the existing debts and claims vs a new peg, or anyone that bought a $500,000 house and paid with a NINJA loan and still owes $499,999 gets a free house.  

If you think about it, it's similar to buying some silver, reselling it a bit later and getting a free house

Without balancing the existing debts and claims vs metals as the new peg, and thus vastly inflating the price of the metals, you would also have complete disintegration of most nations into some type of 500 BC lawless plunder and shooting because there is no consensus on who owns what, etc etc.  It doesn't matter if you think some people will make too much money by holding metals or whatever, it will happen because it's the only possible thing that can happen.

They have an alternate scenario for debt... they'll say the current system is problematic and needs a "reset". During this "reset", a large portion of the debt will get erased, as long as citizens and  countries accept a new global monetary system... the new monetary system will be a totally electronic one (centralized) so that everyone gets under a system of total surveillance and control, where cash doesn't even exist. If you did as much as getting a parking ticket, or if they have a suspicion of you doing something weird, they'll be able to just turn off your unique id that allows you to make txs, as a punishment. You won't even be able to buy food if you don't comply to any government authority. That's the way individuals will lose their freedom. And countries will lose their own by surrendering their right to print money to a centralized global "issuer" that "promises" to be "responsible" with the monetary policy - which in turn will require tight fiscal policies from all the countries that "owe" (a fraction of their old debt - which will still be unserviceable). And all these policies will also "require" control on alternate payment means (PMs, crypto, etc) so as to ensure the chances of survival for the new system.

The problem of a full-blown electronic system (mainstream) is that it creates a gatekeeper for money flowing into and out of PMs (and crypto). We are seeing "hints" of this when credit cards, paypal, banks etc etc, prevent money flowing in or out of crypto. Now this could go to a situation of total control or even legal penalization if one attempts it under the new global electronic currency.

The numbers I stated were only a 20-40x for silver.  You seem to make believe that's an illogical and huge amount when people just bought bitcoins for $1 each and then resold them for a +20,000x a few years later.  The only difference is, it's a hell of a lot safer going all-in on silver than btc.

No I don't think it's illogical, actually (real-)inflation adjusted for the 50$ price in the 80's, a similar peak today should be at least 300$. And that doesn't even require settlements through PMs - just a similar spike under "normal" conditions. I just don't think it's likely without some anomaly.

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[realr0ach]

They have an alternate scenario for debt... they'll say the current system is problematic and needs a "reset". During this "reset", a large portion of the debt will get erased, as long as citizens and  countries accept a new global monetary system... the new monetary system will be a totally electronic one (centralized) so that everyone gets under a system of total surveillance and control, where cash doesn't even exist.

That scheme already failed and is obviously NOT going to happen.  China and Russia refused to go along with it.  You do know after Bretton Woods they had international agreements that individual countries cannot go into the gold market and just buy it up in bulk or monetize metals, yet that's exactly what Russia and China have been doing.  Why do you think Russia is demonized?  After 2008, the Russians and Chinese took off sprinting away from Bretton Woods and gave them the middle finger.

They are not buying up all those metals for no reason.  Why do you think Russia is currently showing off pictures of their gold and silver vault this week?  Why do you think Mnuchin recently held up a gold bar claiming Ft Knox has gold in it (when it really doesn't or much less than claimed).  Why do you think Trump constantly makes references to Andrew Jackson?  Why do you think Trump's twitter says not once, but NUMEROUS times:



The Wolfowitz doctrine was a total failure (which is good) and you now live in a multi-polar world.  Some of the evil Jewish banker sect of the US govt insists on trying to continue with their global, cashless society slave system, but it would require a nuclear war to pull off with everyone on the planet dying in the process.  You can take it to the bank 100% metals are going to be revalued so that current debts can be transferred to a new system.  

Debt forgiveness is far more problematic to pull off and even less wanted by the banking powers, and can also lead to collapse of civilization in the process.  Metals revaluation is the most safe way to keep civilization functioning without risking instantly going into a new dark ages when the debt bubble collapses.

[orpington]

They have an alternate scenario for debt... they'll say the current system is problematic and needs a "reset". During this "reset", a large portion of the debt will get erased, as long as citizens and  countries accept a new global monetary system... the new monetary system will be a totally electronic one (centralized) so that everyone gets under a system of total surveillance and control, where cash doesn't even exist.

That scheme already failed and is obviously NOT going to happen.  China and Russia refused to go along with it.  You do know after Bretton Woods they had international agreements that individual countries cannot go into the gold market and just buy it up in bulk or monetize metals, yet that's exactly what Russia and China have been doing.  Why do you think Russia is demonized?  After 2008, the Russians and Chinese took off sprinting away from Bretton Woods and gave them the middle finger.

They are not buying up all those metals for no reason.  Why do you think Trump constantly makes references to Andrew Jackson?  Why do you think Trump's twitter says not once, but NUMEROUS times:



The Wolfowitz doctrine was a total failure (which is good) and you now live in a multi-polar world.

Who is Exter and why did he build a pyramid?

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[realr0ach]

2 more slippery cunts revealing their scammy designs on your bitcoin.

Since when is anything bitcoin related NOT a scam.

[TERA2]