Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Neo_Coin]

So you are just trolling on here. But why? Why is a math guy, a scientist and coder on bitcointalk BITCOIN speculation main thread, trolling?

You guys are complete noobs if you think BCH is bitcoin's biggest problem.  Bankers own the majority of ETH IPO, and by their constant market manipulation, you can tell they're always trying to fool people into make believing it's a hedge trade against BTC.  The amount of manipulation that goes into trying to pump Eth is 10x more than that of BTC.  So, while all cryptocurrencies are complete trash compared to physical silver or gold, and the bankers + CIA and other dipshits own huge amounts of all of these coins, their preference is for Eth to win since they own the most of it.

And Vinay "white genocide" Gupta can go get himself 1488'd.

[flynn]

Look at the drop in the mem pool when Coinbase stopped sending transactions.

Yeah

They should patch that thing on the production nodes written-at-a-tube style for a good laugh.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVVDsIYJBQ_C7Bh_aI3ZMxQ
Magical Crypto Friends

[Arriemoller]

Guys, i´m afraid i´m jinxing it. Sorry.

I admit, i don´t want bitcoin to go over 20000, because every time bitcoin rises remarkably, media (TV) awakes, and i see more and more countries wanting to ban exchanges and all that. We are a threat to their FIAT-system.
What do we do then ?

The other thing is: i´m not afraid to pay taxes, but how could i possibly explain the thousands of transactions, i made ? For example, i´m constantly lending (funding) some at Finex, thats thousands of transactions. Its not the money, that worries me, it´s the process to cash out.

It really is a nightmare, coming to your door soon !

And don´t tell me we´re here for the ideology, we´re here for the dosh, which still, at least for now, reigns the world.

If you are in Europe, you don't have to worry, you only pay tax when you exit to fiat. If you are in north America you can cash out in the Canadian ATM's.
I'm in it for both the ideology and the cash. If crypto for some reason crashes totally, I'll still mine my Bgold and bide my time. That would actually give the community time to develop a more mature environment with working P to P exchanges, good scaling capability, and everything else we need to be untouchable by governments.

[Zicore47]

Guys, i´m afraid i´m jinxing it. Sorry.

I admit, i don´t want bitcoin to go over 20000, because every time bitcoin rises remarkably, media (TV) awakes, and i see more and more countries wanting to ban exchanges and all that. We are a threat to their FIAT-system.
What do we do then ?

The other thing is: i´m not afraid to pay taxes, but how could i possibly explain the thousands of transactions, i made ? For example, i´m constantly lending (funding) some at Finex, thats thousands of transactions. Its not the money, that worries me, it´s the process to cash out.

It really is a nightmare, coming to your door soon !

And don´t tell me we´re here for the ideology, we´re here for the dosh, which still, at least for now, reigns the world.

If you are in Europe, you don't have to worry, you only pay tax when you exit to fiat. If you are in north America you can cash out in the Canadian ATM's.
I'm in it for both the ideology and the cash. If crypto for some reason crashes totally, I'll still mine my Bgold and bide my time. That would actually give the community time to develop a more mature environment with working P to P exchanges, good scaling capability, and everything else we need to be untouchable by governments.

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.

[dieselmeister]

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.

Damned ... your where first +1 ... in germany you pay tax for all things that looks like money or has any value. we as the tax masters of the world. 80% of the books about taxes are about the german tax system.

But one exception, if you hold your cryptos more than a year, you can sold it without pay any taxes. But if you sell this earlier, you have to pay with your own income tax rate. When you earn more than 66.000 Euro a year (in a job or from other things), you have to pay 48% on every cent you earn from selling cryptos.

[BitcoinBunny]

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.

Damned ... your where first +1 ... in germany you pay tax for all things that looks like money or has any value. we as the tax masters of the world. 80% of the books about taxes are about the german tax system.

But one exception, if you hold your cryptos more than a year, you can sold it without pay any taxes. But if you sell this earlier, you have to pay with your own income tax rate. When you earn more than 66.000 Euro a year (in a job or from other things), you have to pay 48% on every cent you earn from selling cryptos.

48%   

F that shit.

What stops one to "temporarily" emigrate to the UK and only pay 20% capital gains tax when selling?

[dieselmeister]

48%   

F that shit.

What stops one to "temporarily" emigrate to the UK and only pay 20% capital gains tax when selling?

This is quite difficult, because i have a job here where i earn most of my monthly incoming. so it doesn't make sense to migrate to the uk. And i am a HODLER, so i do not pay any taxes on bitcoins
And the tax department can also decided, that your tax dept is here in Germany, ether your are in the uk or some where else. This mean, i get the tax i payed in the uk back and have to pay here more taxes. yeah ... our tax law is very complicated, and the tax departments have a quite lot of power here.

[Phil_S]

Finally above 14000. Let's never dive under that, never ever!

[unknown04]

[TERA2]

getting sick of these cheesy youtube pump videos 'everyone was talking about bitcoin at the casino today. whats with this bitcoin thing? is it a bubble? well i have 5 cars and bitcoin has risen 10,000,000% and I know these whales and let me tell you what they have to say...'

[flynn]

hmm bullish time again.

[HairyMaclairy]

getting sick of these cheesy youtube pump videos 'whats with this bitcoin thing? is it a bubble? well i have 5 cars and bitcoin has risen 10,000,000% and I know these whales and let me tell you what they have to say...'

https://youtu.be/WabT1L-nN-E

[TERA2]

It must break 15000 to be truly bullish

[becoin]

It must break 15000 to be truly bullish

Yep. And it must break 50000 to be truly bearish.

[TERA2]

It's official...

[Torque]

Kodak, wow just wow, 400% in two days - not bad for a company that destroyed itself by ignoring digital photos.

Here's a script for any ailing company:

1. Start pushing an internal cryptocoin or blockchain integration agenda
2. Quietly buy up company stock shares for 6 months
3. Publically announce said crypto agenda, even it is complete vaporware
4. Watch shares of stock get pumped jump 400-500% overnight
5. Profit !

Holy insider trading, I nailed it!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kodak-stock-pulls-back-directors-disclose-acquisitions-prior-to-blockchain-rally-2018-01-11

"On Jan. 8, the day before Kodak’s crypto announcement, no fewer than seven directors acquired derivative securities convertible to common stock, according to Form 4 filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The securities are restricted stock units, or RSUs, which were granted under Kodak’s “2013 Omnibus Incentive Plan” (OIP) and vest on Jan. 8, 2019, except as otherwise provided in the award notice, and subject to continuous service as a member of the board of directors, according to the filings. Even with the timely acquisition, there’s no guarantee the RSU’s will be profitable when they are vested.

Some board members also sold derivative securities, convertible to common shares, on Jan. 9, the day the “blockchain” news was reported.

Kodak said the timing of the insider activity was a “coincidence.”

Jail time for Bonzo?

[pawel7777]

Where can I short Kodak with leverage (UK based)? Honest question.

Plus500 and Etoro don't have Kodak stocks

[Enjel]

I feel a change of mood in the marketplace. Don't know why, but I feel it there.

I honestly thought the last few days were over for crypto in the short term - that we would have a 50% or more price plummet, and would not recover anywhere near previous trading levels for a long time.

[pawel7777]

I feel a change of mood in the marketplace. Don't know why, but I feel it there.

I honestly thought the last few days were over for crypto in the short term - that we would have a 50% or more price plummet, and would not recover anywhere near previous trading levels for a long time.

Negative sentiment is a good thing for the price though. It roughly indicates that price reached the bottom and will go up when sentiment changes.