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July 07, 2018, 08:01:24 PM

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Whatever happened to Jarosław/Walsoraj   here?  

Did he get the country straightened out, or went down in a blaze of glory?

Last posts in mid 2015... so who could keep track of such seemingly old news?
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July 07, 2018, 08:09:02 PM

Current hard floor ~ $3800.



The current price ~$6595 will be the hard floor by 31 December 2018



Hard floor to be over $19k by 31 December 2020



However, previous hard floor was broken during 2014 cryptowinter in late December 2014.  



Hard floor was at $263 when broken.  Best buying was had at $152 about two weeks after breaking the hard floor, marking the absolute bottom of the cryptowinter, being 43% below 'hard floor'.   If hard floor were broken very soon, eg at $5,000, that would make a possible one-off spike as low as $2880 but really no more, which would mark the bottom of this winter on the march towards the 2020 halvening.  

More realistic is that the price will hover around its current level and break downwards through the hard floor in late December 2018.  That would put the absolute bottom of the cryptowinter on a spike downwards to ~$3,800 in January 2019.  

The price would then spend 2019 hovering in the $4k - $7k range, before breaking decisively upwards early in 2020.  

Your prediction seems really bearish, and seems to buy quite a bit into a kind of drawn out correction (bear market) scenario that is similar to the playing out of BTC prices during the 2014-2016 era. 

I recall a couple of months ago that you expected that you would not do any more  buying below $6k... but then BTC's price performance changed, which caused you to buy some more BTC below $6k (that is what you said), but if you really expect prices to go down to $3,800-ish, then did you prepare by selling some BTC or are you just sticking with a buy on the way down plan?
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July 07, 2018, 08:11:10 PM


This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.
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This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.
Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?
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July 07, 2018, 08:15:11 PM

Hard to make a dent in the principal when the Gap signs your paycheques, I guess.

Choice of career is somewhat analogous to a business deciding upon what products and services to offer, at what price. If you just wing it, with no thought to supply or demand, you're gonna have a bad time.

Indubitably. Her parents should have pressed her to become an ear, nose, and throat doctor. Or a hooker.  Smiley
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July 07, 2018, 08:18:47 PM

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This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

At one point I realized that my Thai girlfriend was richer than most American women I would ever date even though she barely makes $1k a month and has nothing. She also has no huge debt weighing her down.

People in the third world countries that don't have access to debt are richer than people in the first world.

Let that sink in.
And they have better social relations too. At the same time they live off our tourism. So, mnjeh.
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July 07, 2018, 08:20:22 PM

* nanobtc bestows imaginary merit-thingies to the clever ones in the thread.

Whatever happened to Jarosław/Walsoraj   here?  

Did he get the country straightened out, or went down in a blaze of glory?

Last posts in mid 2015... so who could keep track of such seemingly old news?

*Jay is still shocked by things he shouldn't be shocked by

People are keeping tabs on you, Jay. Look to it.
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July 07, 2018, 08:26:30 PM
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This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.
Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

When you take out a loan to purchase capital you can incorporate that liability and asset and insulate your person from losses in excess of the value of the capital. When you take out a loan to "invest in yourself" you can not do this. It makes it one of the most dangerous ways to borrow and invest in expected increased future productivity.
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July 07, 2018, 08:35:10 PM

all bcashists i've come across out and out lie.

Offense taken. I try not to lie. At least not in a non-humorous vein. Admittedly, I have on occasion been shown to be incorrect. I think I've mea culpa'd all such occasions.

Unless, of course, you have proof of the converse?
You lied about how nodes work when you were fighting with Lauda and that lot during all the XT days and onwards. Under the pretext of difference of opinion, but you are not that stupid just to be mistaken. It was a deliberate attack based on falsehood, summed up by 'the miners decide'.

I did not. Put up or shut up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1915733.msg19064080#msg19064080
all your own quotes here are examples of your dishonest communications
dread to think what you haven't highlighted
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July 07, 2018, 08:41:23 PM

Bears are trolling us.



with reason. empty space below 6480


https://www.tradingview.com/x/i3QeB4NY/
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July 07, 2018, 08:48:25 PM

$6000 - $7000 feels like 2015 when we were stuck in a price range for a significant time, I think it was $150 - $300.

Does anybody have a feeling we could still be in the $6000 - $7000 range before breaking upwards violently towards the end of 2018?

You could say this is an accumulation phase.

everyone's still crazy bullish and engaged compared to that phase. that was real boredom and indifference by that point.


To me, it still seems that there is way more participation in this thread (this thread is more active now) than it had been in mid 2015.  A lot of thread activity dried up in early 2015 and continued through the year, and likely did not really pick up until mid-to-late 2016.
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July 07, 2018, 08:55:58 PM

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.
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I will admit that Roger ...

There is a bit of a strange overlap with his supposed concept of wanting decentralization, but wanting to have veto power, too...

OK, I'll bite. What is this 'veto power' of which you speak?

It is a concept that Roger Ver does not want to participate unless he gets his way.  He seems to have psychological problems, even though he frequently presents well, as long as you do not say something that causes him to become defensive (which is not difficult to accomplish with his frequently noticed thin skin sensitivities).

Yes, I understand that he is just one person, therefore, it is not a BIG deal, but anyhow, emotional self-centeredness seems to be a central personality trait of his - and your desire to defend him and craig wright seems to show that you have either inabilities to recognize such realities, or that you have some other bias, such as being paid or too influenced by your investment in that direction (which is perhaps the picture that you want us to believe that you have BIG blocker investments but even you do not seem that dumb in spite of your ongoing desire to defend and to propagate such BIG blocker nutjob ideas).
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July 07, 2018, 09:05:45 PM

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.
Wasn't there also that other thread at the time, Gold Collapsing, Bitcoin Up? It had occasional grown-up on and off-topic discussion ( amongst the scamming and stuff ). Nowadays this thread seems to have taken on both ( all 3 ) functions - price discussion, bitcoin ramblings, scamming-and-stuff.
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This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.
Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

Debt is a good investment when you are investing into yourself rather than some depreciating good.

In regards to something like education, you may well not know what you do not know, and therefore, sometimes you may not be able to figure out how you will be able to pay back the debt, but if you do not invest into something like education when you are young, then you are likely to lead a life of ignorance and stupidity, and falsely thinking that you understand things that are out of your grasp, merely because you failed/refused to build a proper foundation.

So do the fuck what you like, but you are spreading bullshit ignorance if you are trying to boil education down to mere ability to make money off of it later in life.  Furthermore, regarding debt more specifically, there are ways to use and to leverage debt to be able to achieve prosperity and even social mobility (and understanding) in ways that you would not be able to achieve without such a tool(s).

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Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

When you take out a loan to purchase capital you can incorporate that liability and asset and insulate your person from losses in excess of the value of the capital. When you take out a loan to "invest in yourself" you can not do this. It makes it one of the most dangerous ways to borrow and invest in expected increased future productivity.

Nonsense.
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July 07, 2018, 09:18:59 PM

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.
Wasn't there also that other thread at the time, Gold Collapsing, Bitcoin Up? It had occasional grown-up on and off-topic discussion ( amongst the scamming and stuff ). Nowadays this thread seems to have taken on both ( all 3 ) functions - price discussion, bitcoin ramblings, scamming-and-stuff.

Also true. Cypherdoc and company. They started to BitcoinXT and everything went to shitstorm. We lost a lot of big brains during the purge.
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July 07, 2018, 09:24:39 PM

volumes at spot exchanges are very very low, while on that shitty CME are getting higher and higher!

Please folks let me understand this trend.

Are we facing a new super dump thanks to our dear CME trader friends, thant can keep dumping without owning BTC at all!!

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_quotes_volume_voi.html#tradeDate=20180706

big dump is probably coming
cme volume is also tiny
the 2 might still be connected

Since CME got in the show the shit hit the fan!
I just hope they can close their paper trade or start to lose interest or whatever just get lost them and their price manipulation
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What do we think about the Trump balloon?
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July 07, 2018, 09:34:22 PM

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear.  Cry
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What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear.  Cry
This is a fair point.
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