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[mymenace]

Now what was hidden by the s@#t fight

Never any answers
Always big pictures edited to hide posts - who edits twit pics?

Future proves past


The Hidden Post

Would you believe me if I told you it was Gavin, Craig and Roger, paid shills and associates selling of coins in that 2014/2015 bear market and their new projects started up in 2015/16.
Roger knows Mark who knows the Japanese Finance minister who knows Jamie Dimon
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/71xpzg/roger_ver_makes_jamie_dimon_an_offer_he_cant/
not yet

Well I believe Roger and Craig are fuckwits, so they could of contributed, but that was a big bubble so no doubt the bear market had a lot of contributors. Why do you rule the Chinese out as buyers though? I am not saying they are solely responsible and I know that the Chinese control the market is pure bullshit. But, that doesn't mean they can't contribute to these things.
The Chinese obviously have a lot of money and if you look at the worlds housing markets you can see that they are very keen to get their money out of China. Despite the capital controls they are still able to do this with ease I might add. So, why wouldn't they be trying to escape a devaluing currency? that's what I'm doing with Bitcoin.

The 2013 bubble run ups happened almost exclusively due to the Chinese exchanges driving it, they had a super small market to work with, thin float (low liquidity), and massive amounts of leverage (X1000) going on at the time. That's why the volatility was so high. The massive leverage was the key, and a lot of that leverage was likely naked long/short. All fingers point to the Chinese exchange owners themselves and their super rich whale trader friends running the game. Who else could back that shit but the insider traders themselves?
Of course they had to have accounts on Mt. Gox and some other exchanges as well to help control things. But it's clear the game was largely over for the Chinese when the PBoC first shut down leverage, demanded transparent accounts and reporting, and then shut down the exchanges.
That kind of out of control volatility wouldn't happen the same today (without Bitcoin derivatives that is) because the Bitcoin market is so big now, so many exchanges now so the loss of control, and that kind of massive leverage just not available anymore.

No Disrespect but Roger had friends with bank accounts larger than those miners
Now

Shall we go down the rabbit hole Q +++
Oh WOW   took 10 minutes, imagine what someone could find in an hour
Seems like #Qanon is missing some resources, bitcoin blockchain strings, bitcointalk forum, reddit

Why is this stuff on the Internet ??
Roger Ver - more to come, Brock Pierce - more to come

Bruce Wagner  
http://bw.gl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=160
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106027.40
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&pagenumber=457

Bruce Wagner is a pedophile con man. He was run off the forums about a year ago after another forum (somethingawful) dug up a bunch of info on a real estate scam he was running (amongst other things).

Calvin Ayre    This info on some twitter site - what do these people know, getting scary.
..."⚡️Pumpy ฿rewster⚡️ [Orthodox Bitcoiner] @PumpyBrewster⚡️Pumpy ฿rewster⚡️ [Orthodox Bitcoiner] Retweeted LEȘTER LONG
So Calvin Ayre likes little girls with braces. Should change the name from Bcash to PedoCash. #Bcash #Shitcoin"...

https://calvinayre.com/2016/04/05/business/calvin-ayre-foundation-brings-cheer-to-typhoon-battered-village-in-the-philippines/





Who put all that dirty crap s#@t on the blockchain
https://bitcoinstrings.com/all
Naahh, Roger you did nothing wrong, just all the wrong people gravitate around you right

Do your paid shills realize what is gonna happen to them. again who has flipped?

another thread Roger coming from everywhere
Proofs about Roger Ver´s lies and the Antpool/Viabtc connection
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2124500.new#new

RoomBot's source (with apologies): https://web.archive.org/web/20150604205303/https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/3672/794d6798470f2ab2.pdf

Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3419499.msg42759681#msg42759681

Remember Rog, I said the court was the wrong road to go down.

The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Yep every one of Roger's failed projects The question remains Roger, why would Paul Vernon not rat you out?
Chinese Miners?

If the right people are not gonna help with this, than how complicit can we be, I suppose.
The question the right people need to answer, the ones in the know who need to answer, is;
Who is never mentioned, never seen in public with girls, is it an open secret?

Is something wrong here or is just me...
rjclarke2000
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) IPO DAY |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LAST DAY IPO
15-11-2014, 23:42:28
If team Ermis are successful and allow me to retire within 10 years from this small investment I will personally fly over to Indonesia and treat you all to the biggest party you can imagine! Leave me alone, I can dream.
Ermis coin
not a paid shill are we, how to instamine

Tell me about Bitblender Roger....

The S@#t Fight

Or maybe tell us what's the deal?

Why so many that protect Roger?

So many Users/Customers/Investors who cannot enjoy what we all going through

Tell it to those customers.
..."Me thinks you should just relax and enjoy the rise as we are all doing"...

Gonna need to be a bigger rise than ATH to take away from this news  

Notice the shills backing each other

Rosewater

you fucking goofball

I'm prepared to accept that.

Go read their posts literal crap and derision
Ready Player One
Future proves past

It is quite possible that there was quite a bit of money in fiat waiting in the reserves on bitstamp... and that money was NOT newly deposited into bitstamp today.   However, now that there seems to be some quasi-resolution to the GOX situation (which still remains quite unclear), some investors are putting in their buy orders with their fiat and so NOW all that reserve fiat, is suddenly showing up on the books.  I would venture to bet that there is quite a bit more fiat in the reserves waiting for a clearer signal regarding a GOX resolution and to thereafter jump in.  When that GOX resolution comes, we will truly have to da moon momentum.. UNLESS there is some new shenanigans (what could that be? government sabotage of sorts?)

Tell us again the MtGox Story and how you advised everyone basically not to panic, your words of wisdom at the time were calming.

Are you on some sort of paranoid crusade against everyone for some undisclosed reason?
You did even mistakenly matched my joking at the BCH thread as some sort of serious shilling.
Me thinks you should just relax and enjoy the rise as we are all doing. Really. Or maybe tell us what's the deal?

A bot is not too likely to engage in seriously engaging communications, and yeah it seems that mymenance is engaged in a kind of shit-stirring, that trolls do at opportune times to distract from any meaningful exchanges of thread-relevant information that we might be having.

No, he's not a bot even he acts like it. He just lacks common sense in his "analysis" of posts reaching to nonsense conclusions. Look:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg42708272#msg42708272
P.S.: Oh well, bolded part exactly sounds like a bot lol.

Player One Up

Notice first the derision and attacks
Next is there any real information hear to the question - Tell us a Story
Then the attacks, literal shit post after shit post
Of course the Verbal Harassment
and lastly the Conspiracy theory (2 actually - #russianbot and #Qanon)

Just tell us a story?    Future proves past -  

Meanwhile in r/Bitcoin
Bitcoin today

https://www.whoisrogerver.com/







  Wall of text

fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate , hate leads to the dark side

https://crypto.robinhood.movie/
an open secret hey Roger

gonna get help here or shall we go see Chan

Check out this Tweet from today.
Roger Ver, Daniel Kelman and some others meeting with the president of Cyprus.
https://twitter.com/kelmandacom/status/1021828985972436992

Yeah shameless bump due to s@#t posting
Someone does not realize their s@#t posting has become irrelevant
Fully exposed, is it TDS there. Or is it RDS.

[nanobtc]

Can't we all just get along? Or at least take it to IRC?

<Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
<Donut[AFK]> INSULT
<Eurakarte> RETORT
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
<Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
<Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
<Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
<Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
<Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
<Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
<Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS

[mymenace]

Can't we all just get along? Or at least take it to IRC?

<Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
<Donut[AFK]> INSULT
<Eurakarte> RETORT
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
<Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
<Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
<Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
<Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
<Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
<Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
<Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS

Bring out the regulation and control to shut them the f#$k up  

Imagine if it was a group colluding to do this to someone who is protecting children

that would be disgusting would it not

Future proves past

[RejectedBanana]

An ETF could take a long time.



https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1021795224958455810

More time to build up anticipation = good news, regardless of outcome.

~Jan 21 is the final (final) final decision date.

Besides, the SEC might be crazy to make any ETF decisions before midterm elections in Nov.

Plus this gives the SEC and CFTC more time to issue anticipated ICO regulation/guidance to nip any future ETF proposals in the bud. Once the floodgates are open, they're open.

[infofront]

Any day above $10k is a good day.

Are we there yet?

Nope. Still at the calamari sandwiches phase.

[xhomerx10]

Any day above $10k is a good day.

Are we there yet?

Nope. Still at the calamari sandwiches phase.

 Im getting sick of calamari!  Its like chewing rubber bands...

[infofront]

Now what was hidden by the s@#t fight

Never any answers
Always big pictures edited to hide posts - who edits twit pics?

Future proves past

Are you ok?

[mymenace]

Now what was hidden by the s@#t fight

Never any answers
Always big pictures edited to hide posts - who edits twit pics?

Future proves past

Are you ok?

Creating a vacuum are we?

[infofront]

Now what was hidden by the s@#t fight

Never any answers
Always big pictures edited to hide posts - who edits twit pics?

Future proves past

Are you ok?

Creating a vacuum are we?

No...or are we?

[Rosewater Foundation]

SARDONIC OVERSTATEMENT OF DOWNWARD PRICE ACTION

[mymenace]

Now what was hidden by the s@#t fight

Never any answers
Always big pictures edited to hide posts - who edits twit pics?

Future proves past

Are you ok?

Creating a vacuum are we?

No...or are we?

Yes we are

Future proves past

Are you ok?

Of course, I am fine

feel sorry for the people ripped of by roger and everyone's protecting him
there is my lost coins and now tax debt on lost coins, but meh compared to above
Not just that paid shills of Roger's always framing questions to me but never answering anything or anyone.

Customers had enough, had enough of the collusion, lack of transparency, had enough of courts

We have a plan to find these shills and get as much coins back  


@infofront Are you OK?



perfect analogy, what next  

[jbreher]

So: topic swerve.

All y'all may recall I've been looking to Puerto Rico as a means of reducing capital gains taxes owed (I'm 'Merkin). But I've just learned of another (legitimate - according to IRS) potential route out of the system that may be as interesting:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesdigitalcovers/2018/07/17/an-unlikely-group-of-billionaires-and-politicians-has-created-the-most-unbelievable-tax-break-ever/

Anyone interested in forming a study group? Or is there some other subforum here in BCT that might be better for such a discussion?

interesting article. thanks.

so i may have the option of taking tax money that otherwise would be paid to the government and more or less wasted and instead pick my own areas and technologies to invest it in instead. and it helps the little guys. im in. although it sounds too good to be true to be honest. and its new and untested. never had a problem with new and untested things before, as long as i can figure risk/reward ratios fairly well.

Well, not quite. At least I don't think so. Bear in mind I just learned about it yesterday. But rather than being able to redirect your tax money, it is actually the money that you invest through this program is not taxed (for ten years, profits to be tax free, etc...).

But overall looks like a very attractive program. Help bootstrap a needy community of your choice, and get a very favorable tax treatment.

[sirazimuth]

...giant clusterfuck post...

dude ..seriously...no disrespect but you may wanna pare down your walls of quotes posts just a tad...

[Rosewater Foundation]

Carolina

Woot! I remember her!

Who knew?

Carolina is known as "La Tierra de Gigantes" (land of giants), in honor of one of its inhabitants: Don Felipe Birriel, who was the tallest man in Puerto Rican history, with an unconfirmed height of 2.413 meters or seven feet eleven inches (7' 11").

 

[JayJuanGee]

Rosewater

you fucking goofball

I'm prepared to accept that.

Yeah.. just pick some random words, and then string them together to say whatever you wish.  In other words,  I am a meanie, and I admit it.    

Notice the shills backing each other

Rosewater

you fucking goofball

I'm prepared to accept that.

Go read their posts literal crap and derision



Ready Player One

Future proves past

The WO-bot, aka mymenace, comes up with some real nonsense.. start to watch this mymenace character - could hardly be a real person.  

I just figured he was retarded.

*Rosewater shrugs*

Oh, come on, why is everyone attacking JJG tonight? He is a nice guy

O.k... that is one bridge too far.  I am certainly NOT "a nice guy."  That sounds like gay.   

[mymenace]

Can't we all just get along? Or at least take it to IRC?

Future proves past

So how did it go everyone

does

Future prove past

[DaRude]

Can't we all just get along? Or at least take it to IRC?

<Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
<Donut[AFK]> INSULT
<Eurakarte> RETORT
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
<Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
<Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
<Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
<Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
<Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
<Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
<Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
<Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
<Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS

Bring out the regulation and control to shut them the f#$k up  
Imagine if it was a group colluding to do this to someone who is protecting children
that would be disgusting would it not
Future proves past

So how did it go everyone

does

Future prove past

Still under $20k  so no lambos yet

[Rosewater Foundation]

Yeah.. just pick some random words, and then string them together

...giant [....] post...

[JayJuanGee]

a shady exchange

Is it? Is this WEX above board? I'm not hip to all the goings-on. I know the vampire squid owns Poloniex now. Did WEX get got by fatcats? Or what exactly.

Well last July 2017, they got seized by the US Govt (they were operating as BTC-e), some of their bank accounts were seized and the websites, but I believe that they were able to keep a large majority of the crypto, based on their own self reporting.  About a month and a half later, they reopened as WEX and did a Bitfinex style socializing of the loss (about 40%-ish), and they issued tokens that they said would be reimbursed.

In the ensuing year, they have not been able to regenerate their previous trade volume and it appears that a lot of folks are trying to withdraw their funds, which seems to snowball, including WEX restricting withdrawals which continues to exacerbate the lack of confidence problem and the run on the exchange.  So accordingly confidence has been lost about whether WEX has enough money to cover all deposits, and surely they have been a whole hell-of-a lot less profitable after reopening because they have not been able to return to their former self (trade volume wise).   There is likely some other continued legal wrangling behind the scenes too because they USA Govt does not give up in terms of attempting to prosecute folks that they can find associated with the exchange, and that could be continuing to affect their operations and their expenses.. and may even motivate them to do an exit scam if they cannot pay everyone or to cover their expenses. 

[Paashaas]

https://www.whoisrogerver.com/

A scamming scumbag.

Roger emailed Bity threatening to remove them from their website (bitcoin.com) if they don't start offering Bcash.

Bity response; no one uses Bcash in Switzerland...