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December 18, 2018, 09:19:00 PM


I don't get the point of those headlines. Technically higher population means higher amount of students thus increasing student debts. Without all the details about rates of repayment and where the money comes from those types of headlines are pretty pointless. I'd be more worried about the dollar printing press than increasing absolute debt (not that I know or care enough about the debt market to make any claims for or against it).

For reference. One billion students taking out a loan of $1000 would amount to total student debt of one trillion. And $1000 is an amount that nearly anyone could pay off with interest in their lifetime. No details, no information.
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December 18, 2018, 09:21:55 PM

Greenspan predicts stagflation in fiat world.

https://qconline.com/business/investment/personal-finance/alan-greenspan-investors-should-prepare-for-the-worst/article_b5b32707-3764-562b-95e9-e1602618e663.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/12/18/alan-greenspan-stock-market.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-markets-investing/

What would be the consequences for bitcoin?
Last time it happened in the 70ies, gold performed exceptionally well, stocks did not do anything for 12 years (with multiple sharp drawdowns and recoveries) and bonds cratered.
Hopefully, btc would replace gold here.

At around 2028-2030, interest rates would be very high and, hopefully, the new bull market in bonds would begin.
I intend to capture that yield then and there.

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haha, just check the video.
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December 18, 2018, 09:23:07 PM



Well, I am close to 100% sure that the drawn curve does NOT properly fit the data points and is drawn without much respect to them (just to illustrate a point).
A much better curve (where you can examine whatever deviation from the mean your heart disire):
https://www.moonmath.win/
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December 18, 2018, 09:29:34 PM

I am thinking one of the differences during the next bull market is that there won't be no ICO craze as in this last one. That's surely a positive thing that will make everything much more sane. Not so good for ethereum though.

Btw, have ANY of the ICO's actually delivered anything useful or profitable already?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. It would probably at least be much more cut throat though, as most people should've realized that buzzword filled toilet whitepaper doesn't mean shit. That could also imply more absurd gains for those that do make the cut, with even steeper losses for full blown trash.

I am thinking something similar.

Even though the dynamics of the next pump will likely be different (assuming there is a next pump), yet there is no real reason to conclude that either ICOs, Alts or dumb money has been purged from the cryptospace.  There would have to be some really dramatic changes before they are really killed off, and I am not even sure if a 2 year crypto winter would actually cause such killing off of such dumb money that surely likely to go along for any kind of pump, even if there is no there, there.
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December 18, 2018, 09:37:29 PM

BTC Difficulty adjustment in 2.9 hours. Watch the price after that, I suspect it is going to go down.

Difficulty follows price.  Price does not follow difficulty.

Before you can put more money in safety deposit box you have to increase security. In Bitcoin lingo Hashrate is security.

This is really fundamental, some post around here outright scary. 
 
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December 18, 2018, 09:38:16 PM


this is good news, the price will not fall further, everything has been sold, it is necessary to buy
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December 18, 2018, 09:40:02 PM

Before you can put more money in safety deposit box you have to increase security. In Bitcoin lingo Hashrate is security.

This is really fundamental, some post around here outright scary. 
 

Miners don't give a fuck about security. All they want is money.

If the price is too low to make money off they go until the difficulty changes enough to entice them back.
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December 18, 2018, 09:40:50 PM

Not my chart.. but scary accurate in the past..



I wasnt ready to wait 5 years..  anyways.. just hodl

Hehe we're in October 20 atm according to this graph  Grin Grin Grin so MOON SOON ladies!

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December 18, 2018, 09:49:11 PM

18 december @ this time

1BTC= 3537$   cheap as F*** for those that can accumulate .... or buy first into BTC ..... don't wait and don't miss out #BUYBTContheCHEAP
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How does one consume this broadcasted feed?
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December 18, 2018, 09:50:49 PM


absolutely don't know just gonna read it as well .... but sounds strange Roll Eyes
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December 18, 2018, 09:51:25 PM

BTC Difficulty adjustment in 2.9 hours. Watch the price after that, I suspect it is going to go down.

Difficulty follows price.  Price does not follow difficulty.

Guess we're about to find out.

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18 december @ this time

1BTC= 3537$   cheap as F*** for those that can accumulate .... or buy first into BTC ..... don't wait and don't miss out #BUYBTContheCHEAP

I bought exactly 1 BTC for my baby as a gift. Any idea what that will be worth in 30 years?  Cheesy
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December 18, 2018, 09:56:53 PM

18 december @ this time

1BTC= 3537$   cheap as F*** for those that can accumulate .... or buy first into BTC ..... don't wait and don't miss out #BUYBTContheCHEAP

I bought exactly 1 BTC for my baby as a gift. Any idea what that will be worth in 30 years?  Cheesy

YES

exactly the same as 1 of mine Grin

(very nice gift, any time its a good boy/girl you gonna stack that BTC address Wink )
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December 18, 2018, 09:56:58 PM

Ill take a punt on satellite dish

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December 18, 2018, 10:01:45 PM

18 december @ this time

1BTC= 3537$   cheap as F*** for those that can accumulate .... or buy first into BTC ..... don't wait and don't miss out #BUYBTContheCHEAP

I bought exactly 1 BTC for my baby as a gift. Any idea what that will be worth in 30 years?  Cheesy

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December 18, 2018, 10:05:11 PM

I wasnt ready to wait 5 years..  anyways.. just hodl

The comparative sluggishness of the rise fits in there, but the fall has been of a similar pace and percentage compared to last time.

Either way in five years I'll probably be back in nappies so sooner works better for me.

So, does that mean that you are in your late 60s or early 70s?

Mortality is surely a thing that each of us needs to appreciate in terms of the extent to which we are going to be able to wait out any potential bull run and perhaps start cashing out BTC on a regular basis no matter the price (because we know that we cannot take it with us, and should we really pass it on to others or attempt to use it while living?).

Even though I exercise pretty regularly, treat myself pretty decently, and bang on a fairly regular basis, I still experience some regular signs of my own demise to remind me of my mortality, causing me to think that best case scenario would be that I have about 10 years before I have to begin cashing out on a regular basis, but with any one of us, there could be some life changing event(s) that change our regular cashing out timeline, and cause us to feel that it is good to start the regular cashing out sooner than we had already considered to be prudnt.

I understand that there are some thread participants who are kind of aiming for a certain BTC price in the $10 to $100k arena to trigger their cashing out, which is a related, but a bit different way of considering the urgency of cashing out (versus the mortality considerations).   
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December 18, 2018, 10:07:54 PM

A few of my friends, who were watching from the sidelines for the past years, have started showing real interest in the past few weeks (following the dump from 6k). And I mostly run around nerd circles, so perhaps this 'delayed' increase in activity could be a sign of fresh casual blood FOMOing in?



Similar situation to me, especially in the last 24 hours.

Would be interesting to see the stats on user sign ups on exchanges recently.
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December 18, 2018, 10:12:09 PM

BTC Difficulty adjustment in 2.9 hours. Watch the price after that, I suspect it is going to go down.

Difficulty follows price.  Price does not follow difficulty.

When I initially saw g-uid's post, I was thinking that perhaps some people make their buying decisions based on these kinds of difficulty adjustment projections, but even more that I was thinking that BTC price is not directly correlated to these kinds of adjustments, but of course, miners are deciding how much hashing power to throw at mining based on BTC price and profitability, so there is a bit of a back and forth going on there, which is likely responding to price incentives... so if the price keeps going down, then difficulty is likely to keep going down, too.  

In sum, Hairy is correct, as usual.   Angry Angry   Angry   why am I even posting here?  Cry Cry
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