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Ah... Lauda still abusing the Trust system I see.


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September 07, 2019, 06:14:24 AM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/biological-clock-ageing-turn-back-reverse-study-new-a9094261.html

Science is just scratching the surface on the inevitable defeat of father time. Immortal Bitcoiners will transcend the human aging process and hodl forever as nocoiners and shitcoiners wither away into dust due to lack of funds.

 

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@JayJuanGee
It sounds like a great plan. But if i was you i don't think i would trade much. I'm almost forced to trade because my position isn't that great.  I'm a late comer. So i try to gather peanuts here and there from my trades. I wouldn't worry in your position at all. You'll probably be a millionaire. All you have to do is wait enough time. That's all.  Smiley

I also used to trade with one part, but now just hold.
JJG strategy seems correct to me,
if you win 10%, sell 1%
if you win 100% you sell 10%
and in the dip you buy again.
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It sounds like a great plan. But if i was you i don't think i would trade much.


In mid-2015, I went through a considerable number of BTC price projections of cash flow and authorizations of my limits (self-imposed of course), and I had already concluded that selling small amounts of BTC on the way up was going to be the best way to put myself at ease going forward.  I suppose that part of my mental justification was that the BTC prices had gone down for the whole of 2014, so through much of 2015, my average BTC cost was in the $500s, but the price was in the mid-$200s.  

In 2015, I had also acquired about an addition amount of BTC that was priced well below $300, and that portion of my stash constituted between 15% and 20% of my stash quantity, so in essence, I authorized my ability to sell small amounts based on that smaller portion of my stash, which would have been in profits, and then as the BTC price continued to go up, larger and larger portions of my stash went into profits.  So, actually I had brought my cost per
BTC down to slightly below $500, and there was a day before BTC prices had actually gotten back above $500 that I was feeling profitable, even during early 2016 when BTC prices were largely floating in the lower $400s.

In essence, I had stacked buy orders all the way back down to below $200, and I had sell orders up the chain, too, so I felt good, and I felt insured.

I felt insured for BTC price movements in either direction.


Also, to some extent, I felt that I had bought a stash of BTC that was a bit beyond my authorization, so the selling is already built in.  I don't miss them at all when I sell them, even though I know that I could have a bit more of a stash if I were to hang onto  them, but I don't care.  I like having both cash and BTC available, which ONLY seems achievable in a way that is comfortable for me by my following the system that I have established and I have custom tailored to me.

So, anyhow, I don't consider myself to be trading, but just engaging in a kind of insurance plan that causes me to be more psychologically and financially comfortable (and neutral) than if I did NOT have the employment of such a system.


I'm almost forced to trade because my position isn't that great.  I'm a late comer.

I think that you already told your story, so you are way the fuck younger than me.

So think about it.  By the time I got into bitcoin, I had around 30 years of investing in various things and also building my cashflow in various ways.

Accordingly, I had a decent amount of money that I could just inject into BTC.

Of course, like I said, it took me about one year to reach my target investment level (which would have been reached largely by the end of 2014), but then the stagnated BTC price for nearly all of 2015 allowed me to continue to invest (and largely over invest), so in that sense, I don't mind shaving BTC off on an ongoing basis and working such shaving off into my whole BTC approach.

By the way,  in 2015, I was projecting BTC prices to go to $3k or $5k, and that was bullish as fuck, and hardly even seeming tangible - I mean it seemed like pie in the sky, so I had charts that would show what I would do at various price points along the way, and so some of the more loosely planned charts went beyond $5k, but really what happened when the BTC price starting getting close to $3k, I had to extrapolate some of my theories to project higher and higher BTC prices, and when the BTC price came up, I would have opportunities to actually verify how close my actual practice ended up complying with the theoretical projections that largely went 3x to 5x beyond the most bullish of scenarios that were in my short term and more fleshed out mix of scenarios.

Surprisingly, even if the theories did not play out exactly with the actual practice, they were pretty damned close, and a few tweaks here and there, and they became learning experiences in terms of ranges of flexibility that might be necessary for such scenarios if they were to repeat.

In recant times, I changed some of the charts that I use, and sometimes, when discussing "whatch u gonna dooo?" matters, I decided to project further out to see how it looks at various points, such as $100k or $500k or even $1million.  So, yeah, just like you never want to run out of dollars if the BTC price is going down, you should never want to run out of BTC if the  price goes shooting  up without any correction.  

Currently, if I strictly stuck to my plan and the BTC price shot up to $1 millon without any price correction along the way (which is not likely) in which I am able to buy some of the BTC back, my trajectory still shows that I would have a bit more than 70% of the amount of BTC that I hold today while staying in a kind of supra 90% BTC to less than 10% fiat range.  And, the amount of value, even from the fiat portion alone is way more than sufficiently enough for me.

Actually all along the way, the numbers look good, and even if the BTC price does not go up, and goes down to $5k, I am satisfied, even if the numbers would be nicer if the BTC price goes up.  What I am trying to say is that the value of my wealth goes UP so fucking damned much if the BTC price goes up, that it does not really negatively affect me in a material way to shave off a bit of profits from here all the way to $1million and beyond (if the BTC price were to go there).

So i try to gather peanuts here and there from my trades. I wouldn't worry in your position at all. You'll probably be a millionaire. All you have to do is wait enough time. That's all.  Smiley

Personally, I believe that you should not try to rush anything.  Wealth building takes a decent amount of time, especially if it is based on prudent strategies, so of course, people who have been in the investment scene a bit longer should be able to have their position set more or less, but if you are younger you should not be rushing to get to the same status as the older person too quickly because if you do that, then you are likely going to make too many avoidable mistakes.

A lot of my earlier investments were 401ks and index funds and things like that, and if I had access to bitcoin, I could have possibly accelerated my wealth building timeline, but there still is a lot of patience and building and building and building that cannot really be rushed.. You just have to keep building brick by brick.

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September 07, 2019, 06:19:04 AM

Curious what exactly the rules round these parts are for nudity, porn, etc. if anyone can shed a little light. I have posted a link to bitcoin related porn(cam models accepting crypto etc) here a few times but never any pics w graphic nudity just bc I never see anyone else do it.

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September 07, 2019, 06:24:43 AM

I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.

I agree with everything that you said, hairy not so much a berry anymore, except the 80% part in the end of your speech....

Personally, as you likely realize, I am a bit of a 50/50 kind of a guy, so maybe I would change your 80% to 58%, and that is deviating quite a bit from my usual 50/50 position and I even feel a bit nervous coming out with such a strong level of deviation from my usual non-commitment...  Wink

I blame you for that.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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September 07, 2019, 06:27:46 AM

Curious what exactly the rules round these parts are for nudity, porn, etc. if anyone can shed a little light. I have posted a link to bitcoin related porn(cam models accepting crypto etc) here a few times but never any pics w graphic nudity just bc I never see anyone else do it.

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I don't think it's necessary to publish images of porn content.
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September 07, 2019, 06:35:48 AM

I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.

I agree with everything that you said, hairy not so much a berry anymore, except the 80% part in the end of your speech....

Personally, as you likely realize, I am a bit of a 50/50 kind of a guy, so maybe I would change your 80% to 58%, and that is deviating quite a bit from my usual 50/50 position and I even feel a bit nervous coming out with such a strong level of deviation from my usual non-commitment...  Wink

I blame you for that.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Halvening is in May. We are in a macro bullmarket. 

Be like Elsa, man.
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@JayJuanGee
It sounds like a great plan. But if i was you i don't think i would trade much. I'm almost forced to trade because my position isn't that great.  I'm a late comer. So i try to gather peanuts here and there from my trades. I wouldn't worry in your position at all. You'll probably be a millionaire. All you have to do is wait enough time. That's all.  Smiley

I also used to trade with one part, but now just hold.
JJG strategy seems correct to me,
if you win 10%, sell 1%
if you win 100% you sell 10%
and in the dip you buy again.

Of course, you can play around with it too, in order to customize to your own situation including whether you are in accumulation, maintenance or liquidation stage, and/or your cashflow, other investments, view of bitcoin as compared with other investments, risk tolerance, timeline and/or your skills, abilities and available time to trade, research or learn... 

I have had periods of time where it seemed that I was selling close to 1.5% of the value of my BTC stash for every 10% BTC price rise, and then other times in which I was only selling in the ballpark of .75% for every 10% BTC price rise...

So, I use the 1% for every 10% price rise as a ballpark guideline, but sometimes I deviate a bit too, depending on my mood about where we are at in terms of bitcoin price dynamics or other things that I am trying to balance out (whether I can pinpoint, such as psychological or financial or some combination).  I usually would not cut off my activity completely in one direction or another, I just tweak it whether it is amounts or increments.
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September 07, 2019, 06:37:58 AM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/biological-clock-ageing-turn-back-reverse-study-new-a9094261.html

Science is just scratching the surface on the inevitable defeat of father time. Immortal Bitcoiners will transcend the human aging process and hodl forever as nocoiners and shitcoiners wither away into dust due to lack of funds.

 

It sounds about as reliable as saying bitcoin has no value because it isn't tied to gold.  
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September 07, 2019, 06:42:04 AM

I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.

I agree with everything that you said, hairy not so much a berry anymore, except the 80% part in the end of your speech....

Personally, as you likely realize, I am a bit of a 50/50 kind of a guy, so maybe I would change your 80% to 58%, and that is deviating quite a bit from my usual 50/50 position and I even feel a bit nervous coming out with such a strong level of deviation from my usual non-commitment...  Wink

I blame you for that.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Halvening is in May. We are in a macro bullmarket.  

Be like Elsa, man.

I understand that there is some decently good shit going on in bitcoinlandia.  But still.

Second:  Should I know who is Elsa?  I cannot be who I doesn't know.
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Curious what exactly the rules round these parts are for nudity, porn, etc. if anyone can shed a little light. I have posted a link to bitcoin related porn(cam models accepting crypto etc) here a few times but never any pics w graphic nudity just bc I never see anyone else do it.

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Surely you have prepared another poll, I would like to see this when possible:

The Hats are?

- 100% Hodlers
- Trade with one part
- Trade with everything
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I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.
It feels so good to hear that 80% of chances to increase. Kiss

Anyway I am not selling anything in the near future but I am worried that whenever I invest on the bitcoin there is sudden dump immediately.

Am I the most unluckiest man in this world? Cry
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But do you bring h-jobs?   Grin Sorry, couldn't resist

Lol. NO Grin But know this "A jerk in the hand is worth two in the bush."  Tongue

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4H timeframe, $11,000 rejection.
This pullback is healthy. I'm buying more Cheesy

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I expect/hope 12K to be broken next week.

No.

11k is too hard to break.

We got too close and look what happened.
Ohh no again bought at the wrong time it seems.Hopefully there won't be too much dump from 10K region.

God no more four digit figures. Lips sealed


Surely we are getting within striking distance of 4 digits, but is this merely a fake out?     I would not proclaim to know, even though the BAKKT seems to be bullish in terms of what would seem to need to be extra demands on actual BTC supply - plus of course, another route for institutional money to more easily and justifiably get a bit of BTC stake.
Thank God the price seems to be stable at $10300 after that sudden dump.Where we are heading now?

Further price fall in this weekend or this is going to be bullish again?

We are stuck in a band between 9,300 and 11,300. It’s a bit irrelevant where it goes in that band it’ll bounce all over the place. What’s important is whether it breaks up or down.

80% chance we will eventually break upwards.
It feels so good to hear that 80% of chances to increase. Kiss

Anyway I am not selling anything in the near future but I am worried that whenever I invest on the bitcoin there is sudden dump immediately.

Am I the most unluckiest man in this world? Cry


You are here, so you are very lucky (as are we).

You just need to shift your mindset to a minimum of five years.
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September 07, 2019, 08:08:42 AM

Hello WO gang
Observing 10,403, I hope we don’t fall in 4 digits again...

I found this very interesting thread on Twitter.
This is the kind of analysis I like the most!

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I'll answer the question I'm getting a lot recently... If the on-chain volume is looking very bearish, how can we be in a bull season? We would expect this BNM chart to be heading upwards right?



https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1170042705868705793?s=21
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