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[kurious]

Coronavirus may be getting weaker due to evolutionary pressure - aggressive quarantining of patients who become very sick

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463?searchresult=1

This evolutionary pressure has been shown in the past, inadvertently in reverse.  

The 'Spanish Flu' (an H1N1 virus) broke out during WWI.  At that time soldiers with lesser symptoms stayed on post, the more serious ones were sent home on crowded ships and trains.  This probably had the effect of selecting a worse form of the virus to be spread around the world.  Many more millions of people were killed by this 'flu' than the war itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

"In civilian life, natural selection favors a mild strain. Those who get very ill stay home, and those mildly ill continue with their lives, preferentially spreading the mild strain. In the trenches, natural selection was reversed. Soldiers with a mild strain stayed where they were, while the severely ill were sent on crowded trains to crowded field hospitals, spreading the deadlier virus."

Quarantining all serious cases should have the opposite effect, so this does make sense.  It is quite true that seriously fatal strains tend to kill their carriers and milder strains do not, and therefore survive in the population more easily.  

Let's hope this is how it plays out.  I know it'll disappoint the eugenics fans here, but hey, I am not much of a fan of mass deaths as they tend to get close to home. I really would rather it turned out to have all been 'not that bad in the end'.

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[jojo69]

Hey Jimbo

how is spring training going?

[ataArt]

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood

[Torque]

If any of you guys talking about China want to know what's really been going there for the last ten years, check out this short summary video. It's by an American fluent in Mandarin who lived over there during that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4ryYokLzU

[Lambie Slayer]

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-who-director-generals-comments-that-3-4-of-reported-covid-19-cases-have-died-globally/


MARCH 4, 2020
expert reaction to WHO Director-General’s comments that 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died globally

Prof Mark Woolhouse, Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh, said:

"The WHO is using the official figure for confirmed cases as the denominator, and this gives the estimate of 3.4%.  But if a significant number of mild cases have been missed or not reported then this estimate is too high.  Though there is disagreement about this, some studies have suggested that it is approximately 10 times too high.   This would bring the death rate in line with some strains of influenza  . "



Prof Christl Donnelly, University of Oxford, and WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Modelling, Imperial College London, said:

"Our analyses have included estimates of the case fatality ratio, but also the infection fatality ratio. The infection fatality ratio is the proportion of infections (including those with no symptoms or mild symptoms) that die of the disease.  Our estimate for this is 1%. This is lower than the observed 3.4% figure because asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic cases are included in the denominator.”

If you wanted some guys with fancy degrees who wear white coats to tell you what I pretty much already told you, well there it is. COVBULL-19 is not nearly as deadly as all the hype and hysteria of money printers would lead you to believe.


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Stay Bullish Boyz, everything is gonna be alright.

67 days till the Halvening and all is well.

[Ibian]

If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.

wait till youre a boomer with a 15 page med list, 14 specialist MDs, a list of conditions and operations, some so cutting edge that they have been published.

without regular labs and MD visits.. well thats life support for some of us.

@Ibian, youre welcome.  well no, thats a lie.

No way I would burden myself, my insurance company, and by proxy, every other person's premiums, or society in general if I had those kind of problems. I'll just have to let life (or death) run it's course when I get that far gone. You know, take it like a man, instead of living on life support.

Boomers have been fucking over everyone else for more than 50 years.  Why stop now.  

I've been gone six months or so from the thread and you're still mr.millenial over here, what a shame.

So do you have any arguments? Have, in fact, boomers NOT been fucking over everyone for more than 50 years? What is your position on this matter?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood

I think we’ll be in the $10,000 - $12,500 range as we get to the halving. We’ll probably see a dump post halving which is what tends to happen before another pump.

Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about most of the time. This is not investment advice. Do your own research.

[Lauda]

https://www.longhash.com/en/news/3279/Why-South-Korea's-Top-Crypto-Exchanges-are-Delisting-Coins-En-Masse

Very bullish. Clean out the trash.

[Lambie Slayer]

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood

I think we’ll be in the $10,000 - $12,500 range as we get to the halving. We’ll probably see a dump post halving which is what tends to happen before another pump.

Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about most of the time. This is not investment advice. Do your own research.

Im thinkin like 14k. But 12.5 works too.

[klintay]

I'll just leave this here...

[jojo69]

So at first i rejoiced, it seemed that lambie had defeated JJG and all was well.

But it seems increasingly that our heroic lambie sacrificed himself in the effort, perhaps he was a little careless with the PPE, or maybe in the heat of battle it was inevitable, but sadly our lambie appears to have been infected with the wordy virus.

A sad day.

[Phil_S]

A sad day.

Do you want to wake up and there is like 1 page to read? Come on.

[Lambie Slayer]

So at first i rejoiced, it seemed that lambie had defeated JJG and all was well.

But it seems increasingly that our heroic lambie sacrificed himself in the effort, perhaps he was a little careless with the PPE, or maybe in the heat of battle it was inevitable, but sadly our lambie appears to have been infected with the wordy virus.

A sad day.

LOL, I was actually thinking this myself. Like where did JJG go? Is he alive, is his ghost haunting my keyboard?

This silly virus doom and gloom when things are bullish af has brought it out in me.

I think Ive made my points clearly and dont have to much more to prove on the whole COVBULL-19 thing so it shouldn't be that wordy going forward.  

[ataArt]

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood

I think we’ll be in the $10,000 - $12,500 range as we get to the halving. We’ll probably see a dump post halving which is what tends to happen before another pump.

Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about most of the time. This is not investment advice. Do your own research.

I agree with you and also hold this opinion.

One thing is interesting: the hype around the global crisis is starting to gain momentum more and more (the coronavirus helped this well) ... Doesn't it seem to you that the bump after halving and the global crisis are beginning to suspiciously cross over in time ..?

[2020VISION]

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[Ibian]

If any of you guys talking about China want to know what's really been going there for the last ten years, check out this short summary video. It's by an American fluent in Mandarin who lived over there during that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4ryYokLzU

Good pick. Here is one more on our fav topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VGPYtbTk8

[jojo69]

how exactly have the boomers been fucking everyone over for 50 years?

social security

[Ibian]

If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.

wait till youre a boomer with a 15 page med list, 14 specialist MDs, a list of conditions and operations, some so cutting edge that they have been published.

without regular labs and MD visits.. well thats life support for some of us.

@Ibian, youre welcome.  well no, thats a lie.

No way I would burden myself, my insurance company, and by proxy, every other person's premiums, or society in general if I had those kind of problems. I'll just have to let life (or death) run it's course when I get that far gone. You know, take it like a man, instead of living on life support.

Boomers have been fucking over everyone else for more than 50 years.  Why stop now.  

I've been gone six months or so from the thread and you're still mr.millenial over here, what a shame.

So do you have any arguments? Have, in fact, boomers NOT been fucking over everyone for more than 50 years? What is your position on this matter?

Well first off I'm not a Boomer, I'm in fact I'm my twenties so I'll just get that out of the way.

My argument would be that boomers were the ones who created the internet in it's current form and that was a massive change to the economy. That brought a huge change for cost of living and quality of life through huge lowering of cost throughout the manufacturing and service industries.

While policy can be a heated and targeted issue we can at least know through history that the boomers generation did not enter a third world war, this can't be said for their parents and their grandparents generation. While yes there was war, there was nothing nearly as dramatic as WWII and we haven't seen economic war time style struggles for Americans and Europeans alike.

Boomers just get targeted but the truth is someone is always doing better in any economic front than someone else, and blaming a generation is an easy and hyperbole of an excuse. Being full of crystal clear hindsight if easy to do but in reality and at the current time decisions are murky and less obvious, this seems to be missed during this.

You also have a very vague standing, how exactly have the boomers been fucking everyone over for 50 years?

I think the main question to this is, is war better or worse than socialism?

[jojo69]

I don't expect to have it when I'm older ...

but you get to pay for it nonetheless

[Torque]

If any of you guys talking about China want to know what's really been going there for the last ten years, check out this short summary video. It's by an American fluent in Mandarin who lived over there during that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4ryYokLzU

Good pick. Here is one more on our fav topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VGPYtbTk8

Yeah, I like those guys.

Funny how convenient that this virus outbreak popped up in China, just as the golden years there were completely waning? Why didn't it appear years ago during the boom times in China?

So so convenient that timing... The Club just loves a good FUD 'black swan' just when markets are peaking/sliding.