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February 21, 2020, 11:53:36 PM

Good Morning WO gang!
Observing corn @9647
Observing people around you going bonkers because of first COVID-19 contagion at 60km from where they (we) live.

A few of details of this story are actually scary:

  • The infected person never travelled to China
  • The invected person ate a pizza one month ago (forget 14 days incubation period then) with a colleague of his who was back from China
  • That particular person has no symptoms and tested negative to every check.



Uhhhh or there is undetected community spread of the virus.  How does he know he has it if he has no symptoms?

The facts are not clear actually.

Italian press is all over the case: of course now all the focus is n the virus spread.
There is the guy is infected
The pregnant wife is infected
The third infected is...

...drumroll...

a friend of the couple (not better specificed whose of the two members of the couple he's closer to....)

EDIT: SixSixteen infections right now.



Well, that escalated quickly: first COVID-19 death in Italy (78 yo man)
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February 22, 2020, 12:25:15 AM

dolls on dope
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February 22, 2020, 12:41:05 AM

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February 22, 2020, 01:00:59 AM

Personal Income Tax Rates

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CountryTax Rate
Sweden57.20
Japan55.95
Denmark55.80
Netherlands51.75
Portugal48.00
Australia45.00
China45.00
France45.00
Germany45.00
Greece45.00
South Africa45.00
Spain45.00
United Kingdom45.00
Italy43.00
South Korea42.00
Switzerland40.00
United States37.00
India35.88
Argentina35.00
Mexico35.00
Turkey35.00
Canada33.00
Indonesia30.00
Brazil27.50
Singapore22.00
Russia13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

Let my clarify a bit. Income tax in Sweden is payed to the local council/county and it varies from place to place but usually hovers around 30%. However, if you make more than 50930 USD equivalent per year you also pay 20% state tax on the amount above 50930. where they get the 57,20% from I don't know.
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February 22, 2020, 01:41:25 AM

Personal Income Tax Rates

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USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.


These numbers are worthless in this context as they are nothing more than variables in a larger formula. These countries all provide more or less services for that "income" tax where others have mandatory costs such as insurance and healthcare which others do not that are not factored in which are hidden additions to that percentage.



typical fauxism taken out of context


people who restrict their news intake to one faction frequently fall for these

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Don't let them scare you into reporting you "holdings"!

Tell them NOTHING!

The IRS has known about me since 2013. Banker reported me to SEC for an over 10k sale to get KNC Jupiter Miner from Sweden...
...went to phone meeting with a banker and SEC (voice phone SEC end) and banker's 'proof' was BTC was 'evil' and no way I had
done taxes (spring 2014 with new IRS crypto rules) slap'd down my CPA done Tax Forms paid and SEC guy in a 'resigned' voice is
why am I here? ...so you can account for the BTC now or when they come later..I myself when the IRS or Whomever comes by saying
I am not legit due to my (1) trophy girlfriend (2) boat on the lawn (3) flashy car etc, will show them my 'legit' crypto earnings and tell
whoever they are to go 'pound sand' ..eventually KYC will be for all exchanges...so it will only get worse IMHO. (hope it is not as
bad as all that ...but soured me on what to expect as a newbie till now from 2013. Smiley

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Don't let them scare you into reporting you "holdings"!

Tell them NOTHING!

The IRS has known about me since 2013. Banker reported me to SEC for an over 10k sale to get KNC Jupiter Miner from Sweden...
...went to phone meeting with a banker and SEC (voice phone SEC end) and banker's 'proof' was BTC was 'evil' and no way I had
done taxes (spring 2014 with new IRS crypto rules) slap'd down my CPA done Tax Forms paid and SEC guy in a 'resigned' voice is
why am I here? ...so you can account for the BTC now or when they come later..I myself when the IRS or Whomever comes by saying
I am not legit due to my (1) trophy girlfriend (2) boat on the lawn (3) flashy car etc, will show them my 'legit' crypto earnings and tell
whoever they are to go 'pound sand' ..eventually KYC will be for all exchanges...so it will only get worse IMHO. (hope it is not as
bad as all that ...but soured me on what to expect as a newbie till now from 2013. Smiley

Brad


Coinbase ratted me out years ago. Lol




Estonia could be a nice choice for you. Not far away from Denmark, quite civilized and they also offer e-residency. I'm sure you'll feel like in tax haven there after living in Denmark  Cool

Edit: If my memory serves me well we had a WO member from Estonia here? Perhaps you could contact him for more info.

If memory serves me correctly (which it doesn't always these days) I remember seeing a post from Risto saying he was fleeing the Estonian taxmen with nothing but a bag of cloths and a suitcase of fiat.
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Don't let them scare you into reporting you "holdings"!

Tell them NOTHING!

The IRS has known about me since 2013. Banker reported me to SEC for an over 10k sale to get KNC Jupiter Miner from Sweden...
...went to phone meeting with a banker and SEC (voice phone SEC end) and banker's 'proof' was BTC was 'evil' and no way I had
done taxes (spring 2014 with new IRS crypto rules) slap'd down my CPA done Tax Forms paid and SEC guy in a 'resigned' voice is
why am I here? ...so you can account for the BTC now or when they come later..I myself when the IRS or Whomever comes by saying
I am not legit due to my (1) trophy girlfriend (2) boat on the lawn (3) flashy car etc, will show them my 'legit' crypto earnings and tell
whoever they are to go 'pound sand' ..eventually KYC will be for all exchanges...so it will only get worse IMHO. (hope it is not as
bad as all that ...but soured me on what to expect as a newbie till now from 2013. Smiley

Brad


Holy shit what a scary thing. Has anyone else here been affected in a similiar way like this?
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A 20-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, traveled 400 miles(675 km) north to Anyang where she infected five relatives, without ever showing signs of infection, Chinese scientists reported on Friday, offering new evidence that the virus can be spread asymptomatically.

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All five of her relatives developed COVID-19 pneumonia, but as of Feb. 11, the young woman still had not developed any symptoms, her chest CT remained normal and she had no fever, stomach or respiratory symptoms, such as cough or sore throat.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-study/wuhan-woman-with-no-symptoms-infects-five-relatives-with-coronavirus-study-idUSKBN20G00J


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February 22, 2020, 03:22:07 AM

I think BTC is going to rise.

The legendary rpietila.



fixed that for you

The once legendary rpietila.

very sad but fuck off. OK thanks you got me into monero, then you robbed a lot of people.

Why arent people like this banned.

Big shame, the fallen hero from my view.

Fuck off then fuck off again.



We all do have our fallen Hero's  Sad

 Not worth any attention if they robbed you

actually I'm very lucky the game was too complicated for me to understand really.

There were lots of promises, but in researching "how to" I found a darker side that warned me off. Some people just stuck in a hole and stuff.

Others were not so lucky and we are talking big money here, especially in today terms.

Then an effective exit scam/ more empty promises to repay stuff never fulfilled.

Unbelievable excuses such as fire, robbery, flood, bird flew away with paper wallets etc. all in about a week.

Big shame



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February 22, 2020, 03:24:16 AM

bird flew away with paper wallets
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Today I got called Australian by an USA

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Don't forget many a place has state income taxes

Don't forget many a place has capital gains taxes.  Vermont's a bitch.
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https://news.yahoo.com/rome-unveil-tomb-may-belong-wolf-suckled-king-035218246.html
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Rome (AFP) - An ancient tomb thought to belong to Rome's founder Romulus was presented to the world on Friday, after months of investigation by history sleuths.

The 6th century BC stone sarcophagus, with an accompanying circular altar, was discovered under the Forum in the heart of Italy's capital over a century ago -- but experts could not agree on whether or not it belonged to the fabled figure.

According to legend, Romulus founded the city after killing his twin brother Remus.

The brothers had been raised by a she-wolf -- the symbol of Rome shows them sucking at her teats -- but later fell out over where to build the new metropolis.

What happens to the world when you open up the tomb of Romulus?

Isn't he the lord of the UnderWorld?
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Death Lord is a great guy and family man but the liberal media have unfairly represented him.
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I'm the ape of death and I don't care...

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#haiku


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That little feeling of joy in the morning when you have a fresh cup of coffee and 5+ unread WO pages.

I for sure cannot share this with anyone IRL  Grin
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Exactly the same, the best coffee of the day.
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Here's some fresh CSW lulz to go with your coffee.
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