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February 21, 2020, 04:46:21 PM

Controversial opinion -

And those with the best genes should be forced into breeding centres.

With my sky high IQ, man about town suaveness, hairy back, wet nose and glossy coat I should really do the decent thing and start popping them out, but I'm too cognisant of the total pointlessness and drudgery of it.

To get me to do my duty I'll want a hefty salary, a medal of honor and the right to disappear.

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February 21, 2020, 04:50:21 PM

Why not require all women above 50 also have tubal ligation or otherwise render them infertile too?

That's not fair or  just. Men's period of fertility is much longer than women's.

If they want to sterilize men halfway through their breeding years, they should do the same to women, e.g. at the age of 30-35.

The whole argument is bullshit anyway. No one is demanding forced abortions. A more equitable argument would be to call for the banning of tubal ligation.

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People should be vetted before being allowed to reproduce. There are so many people who have kids without being able to afford to pay for them.

Why the fuck should we as tax payers pick up their mess. Why should they get tax payers money to help pay for their stinking, illegitimate children?

If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them.

It is better to sterilize those whores who destroy normal families and go with their children to new husbands ...

such girls continue their kind than give an example to their own children that to leave a husband is not scary...
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February 21, 2020, 05:05:30 PM

- China is shutting down internet in Wuhan.

From an old China hand:

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Don’t listen to what the Chinese government says, but pay close attention to what the Chinese government does

This suggests that the situation is very bad and getting worse. Maybe an uprising starting.  


*edit* can we please get a source for the shutdown.  I am having trouble independently confirming this.  

It’s starting to really piss me off now.

We haven’t had any stock delivered for about 6 weeks now (includes the time they had off for Chinese New Year).

It is like I said before (end of lunar new year + slow boat shipping) = supplychainageddon.

It is just now getting started.  The fucking Home Depot and WalMart are going to be empty.

Welcome to the new paradigm of not in time delivery.
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February 21, 2020, 05:21:24 PM

RIP TradeSatoshi, wonder why they’re closing down. I don’t see any reason how an exchange can go bust unless they’ve had a really bad hack.

Laws/regulation is another reason.
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February 21, 2020, 05:30:00 PM

There have a been a few cases of fertility doctors who fathered dozens and even hundreds of children. The children find out later through DNA testing, and facebook and other social media, they see they all look alike, and their mothers all went to the same fertility clinic.

Imagine you have a few hundred step siblings all from the same father.
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February 21, 2020, 05:39:12 PM

We started badly from the beginning with boys and girls born with the same lineages,
this is the result, 50% of the world is... Roll Eyes
I don't say more. Cheesy
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February 21, 2020, 05:45:06 PM

If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them.

[soapbox] If you can't educate them don't breed them would be my choice. It's not that we have too many people that are burdens on the taxpayer. We have too many people that are dumber than rocks and wear it as some kind of honor. Successive generations of equating every random person's uneducated opinion on the same level as experts who have studied their topics for a lifetime are guaranteed to knock us all down a peg or two. [/soapbox]
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February 21, 2020, 05:46:02 PM

Imagine you have a few hundred step siblings all from the same father.

Meet World record holder Ziona Chana. 94 Children , 39 wives, 14 daughter in law, 33 grand children and counting....
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February 21, 2020, 05:48:00 PM

the fuck is NMR?
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February 21, 2020, 05:52:48 PM

the fuck is NMR?

Nuclear Magnetic Resonance
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February 21, 2020, 06:58:12 PM

In other news -
 6000 bitcoin on the shelf for 7 years after being seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau -

Full story - https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0219/1116299-bit-coin-clifton-collins/
So it turns out the guy 'lost' the keys in a fishing rod accident for the 6000 BTC
Hahah, never heard that one before. LOL, Stick it to the man!  Grin Priceless, I like this dood already.
Marijuana grower loses keys to 6000 BTC


What did I say earlier?  dood makes sure witnesses see and know it was in the fishing rod, which then gets stolen and lost. Paper can be backed up elsewhere too (it's not a backup if there is only 1 copy.) or buried.

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

Ireland and UK have draconian proceeds of crime laws - trespassing into unfair. I don't remember what this dude's really guilty of, but that money predates his crimes. I agree the guvmint shouldn't be able to seize it. I hope he does have a few backups scattered here and there. In that case it's bitcoin 1 - guvmint 0.
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February 21, 2020, 07:39:48 PM
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Nothing bad.

Crucial Indicator: Bitcoin’s Parabolic Bull Run to $50,000+ Will Begin Very Shortly


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Historically you really wanted to be long by the time the weekly Ichimoku showed a thin red cloud and price reached that moment in time

Image 1 = Oct '12 & May '16 thin red clouds visualized

Image 2 = 2020

This year will cement the foundation for the next parabolic run



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PlanB (100TrillionUSD), a pseudonymous quantitative analyst, revealed a revolutionary Bitcoin price model proving such price points as entirely feasible for BTC to reach in the coming years.

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The model appears to model the bubbles ánd bear markets fairly well. It confirms a certain inertia of price reaction, so a lag ánd overshoot. Model would predict: Price will catch up with S2F ratio a year after the halving. And overshoot by ~ 2x. (3/3)  h/t Tom!

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Some have been even more optimistic, saying that $50,000 may only be the start of an even greater move.

Source: https://www.newsbtc.com/2020/02/21/crucial-indicator-bitcoin-parabolic-bull-run-50000-begins-2020/
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Can you get stock elsewhere?

Not as good as my Chinese supplier, no. There’s a factory in France but it’s more expensive, we’ve been using them regrettably.
How long do you think there will be restrictions on shipping stuff from China?

Some of the smaller Ali Express guys are posting now but my main one is down & doesn’t know when they’ll be allowed to resume.

Luckily we have other streams of income but this is stopping me earning a lot of money.



No one knows. But the general sense is that it will get worse before it gets better.  The Chinese quite clearly do not have transmissibility under control and we are now getting reports out of the Middle East of a break out there.  

I think WHO is going to be forced to declare a global pandemic within the next week.  

https://theloadstar.com/container-shipping-ex-china-grinding-to-a-halt-carriers-cant-carry-on-much-longer/

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The Australian Department of Health estimates the case fatality rate in China — the percentage of people diagnosed who end up dying from it — is 2.9 per cent.

However, the Department said the case fatality rate outside China was 0.7 per cent.

That's less than SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome).

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-01/coronavirus-update-how-to-protect-yourself-from-outbreak/11918302?pfmredir=sm
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February 21, 2020, 08:01:07 PM

Imagine you have a few hundred step siblings all from the same father.

Meet World record holder Ziona Chana. 94 Children , 39 wives, 14 daughter in law, 33 grand children and counting....

That's probably the record for naturally fathered children. I'm talking about some fertility doctors that fathered 600 children, none of the mothers were his wives. He simply used his own sperm on all those "clients".
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Can you get stock elsewhere?

Not as good as my Chinese supplier, no. There’s a factory in France but it’s more expensive, we’ve been using them regrettably.
How long do you think there will be restrictions on shipping stuff from China?

Some of the smaller Ali Express guys are posting now but my main one is down & doesn’t know when they’ll be allowed to resume.

Luckily we have other streams of income but this is stopping me earning a lot of money.



No one knows. But the general sense is that it will get worse before it gets better.  The Chinese quite clearly do not have transmissibility under control and we are now getting reports out of the Middle East of a break out there.  

I think WHO is going to be forced to declare a global pandemic within the next week.  

https://theloadstar.com/container-shipping-ex-china-grinding-to-a-halt-carriers-cant-carry-on-much-longer/

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The Australian Department of Health estimates the case fatality rate in China — the percentage of people diagnosed who end up dying from it — is 2.9 per cent.

However, the Department said the case fatality rate outside China was 0.7 per cent.

That's less than SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome).

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-01/coronavirus-update-how-to-protect-yourself-from-outbreak/11918302?pfmredir=sm

The difference in rates might be explained by early sufferers getting the best treatment the developed world can offer.  Adding a few hundred more per hospital and you might see the death rate per diagnosis change for the worse and head at least toward, if not matching the Chinese rates.

EDIT: Not to have a pop at some level headed optimism, Hairy - jus' postulatin'
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Norwegian Air to Accept Payment in Crypto
They're working with the Norwegian Block Exchange (NBX).
Source : https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/norwegian-air-to-accept-payment-in-crypto-hopefully-from-spring/
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If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them.

Its dangerous to go down that road where people are not individuals but both owned and assets of the state to be taken of no matter what.    They have had programs of forced termination in China especially, it doesn't create any idyllic situation because thats a hellish action to take imo.   They did all that and they still have the problems every state has so I'd rather take that lesson and not go that route.
   People are an asset to a country, just the amount of growth possible during a persons life time outstrips every other investment.   China has a falling working population, they do have great challenges ahead because they so drastically cut population growth previously it will now be uneven and weighted towards pension age far more then other countries I think.   Japan has that problem but also alot of wealth previously made where as China has still alot of development required.



I think the price drifts for a couple days, possibly upwards.
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February 21, 2020, 08:18:56 PM

- China is shutting down internet in Wuhan.

From an old China hand:

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Don’t listen to what the Chinese government says, but pay close attention to what the Chinese government does

This suggests that the situation is very bad and getting worse. Maybe an uprising starting.  


*edit* can we please get a source for the shutdown.  I am having trouble independently confirming this. 

It’s starting to really piss me off now.

We haven’t had any stock delivered for about 6 weeks now (includes the time they had off for Chinese New Year).

This.

My suppliers are telling me the factories are all shut down and they will get back to me when they can get back to work. Last contact was last week.
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February 21, 2020, 08:32:43 PM

It is an option, everything can happen.

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1/ During the last two #Bitcoin  bull cycles, price bottoms and tops fluctuated around halving dates in an almost equal ratio. If this relationship were to hold true, we still have more than 570 days of bull market ahead of us, with a cycle top coming in around Sep 2021.



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The only surprise is 'September' - I was expecting a couple of months later.

EDIT: and I still am Wink
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