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March 07, 2020, 02:30:37 PM

Hello, UNICEF?
If this virus can't live @ 26-27 degrees Celsius, how can it thrive in the lungs of the infected @ ~37 degrees Celsius?
Not even taking the symptoms like high fever into account. This is either fake or they are talking about air humidity and somehow (unreliably) relate this to climate temperature.
On a related note, a Dutch hospital ran an experiment: replace all stainless door handles and metal surfaces with copper or copper-plated metals. It worked really well but was not implemented further since regular good cleaning (which is never done well in practice) was expected to be cheaper.
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March 07, 2020, 02:31:34 PM
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The info is BULLSHIT.

I no way the diameter of COVID-19 is 500 micrometers. You would see it with naked eye.
A lot of rubbish COVID-19 is a disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, approx size of  125 nm (nanometer), Influenza virus is about 80 to 120 mµ (nanometer)
Any mask Grin Cheesy
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March 07, 2020, 02:35:42 PM

I found them on social media and thought some of the information might be authentic.

It won't be good spreading wrong info so removed those shits @homer
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March 07, 2020, 04:49:13 PM

You have to read all the clauses of your insurance policy, insurance companies normally do not take charge or do not include coverage if a pandemic is declared.

Yeah. I almost forgot insurances mostly only cover the same risks you could probably cover from your own pocket and that when the real shit hits the fan you are on your own anyways. Bleh, enough rant... I didn't even had plans to travel this year... but after checking flight prices (like HALF than previous years) I have to recognise I was REALLY tempted. I guess I am getting old when I start putting more weight on risks/safety than saving costs.
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March 07, 2020, 04:52:43 PM

Wild candles going on! Feels like stop clearing before a run. I'm betting on an UP run.
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Volume. People trying to sell high and buy low, and people being tricked into the reverse. Don't fall for it, ride along.
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March 07, 2020, 05:14:43 PM

Great France!


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The advancements that have been seen this week from India, France and South Korea paints a picture of recognition and acceptance of Bitcoin at the nation level, a level that will have a lot to say in the global adoption of cryptocurrencies.

Source: https://thedailychain.com/france-declares-bitcoin-as-legal-money-following-good-news-in-india-and-south-korea/
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March 07, 2020, 05:21:23 PM

P.S.: Thinking about this is making me recognise how wonderful is to have free public health service and how we usually don't see the value in those things we have always taken for granted.
It's not free. In this case it appears you don't see the cost.

Of course it is being paid in advance in order to be "free" when you need it but, there is something very wrong with the alternative system:

Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

I don't believe in socialism, but in this particular case I have to acknowledge universal health care works way better overall.

Of course I find completely ridiculous that universal health care also covers foreigners (and even ilegal migrants) here whose respective nations don't reciprocate when we go there. That's completely stupid and plain wrong from an economical point of view (I will leave ethical concerns out of this) and it is well known there are many people exploiting this.
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March 07, 2020, 05:28:05 PM

Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.
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Socialism: Education and health care should be free for everybody. Health and education is a birth right. The rich must pay for them. (Europe)

Capitalism: If you aren't rich enough, you don't deserve to live. Dieeee (USA)

I'll go with Europe.
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Great France!


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Source: https://thedailychain.com/france-declares-bitcoin-as-legal-money-following-good-news-in-india-and-south-korea/

You are late sir, very late.  Tongue

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Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

So the alternative being fully socialising it would probably work better IN COMPARISON... Unless they manage to keep corrupting the system somehow... which probably they would.

Is there any country where a pure capitalist health system exist? If there is, I would like to know and compare costs.
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Same as housing, the debt and high costs are a distortion not a failure of capitalism itself.    I think its 90% of housing debt is now government backed, this actually makes more sense to me to provide health care for all.   

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Check how much of GDP is government in every country, if its anywhere near 50% it wont be a capitalist system that is operating.    Thats the danger of Bernie or Warren, they progress or succeed even with a false narrative.   Capitalism is mostly about most efficient process and competitive markets, thats not matching very well with massive amounts of government (over)spending.


BTC looks bullish on weekly bars which seems the most appropriate view on Saturday and Sunday.   Year average below, price above a descending trend for this year and also since July.  Cant really ignore that, 9750 would be first target to beat or measure its strength on, summer highs and tax year end high april 2018


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I was thinking about my private medical insurance which is supposed to cover me worldwide... but, yeah, probably there are lots of exclusions that I never even bothered to read... But I have just checked that it seems that there is a maximum cover of 50000€ which, after knowing the completely ridiculous prices of medical services in US, it's almost a joke.


dude, 50K?

we ain't even scraping you off the windshield for that...peasant

Yeah... but maybe it would be enough cover for an aspiring if I do get a headache while overseas?

I have read about completely terrifying stories (invoices/receipts included) of medical expenses running on the several hundreds of thousands dollars for what would otherwise be considered minor/mild health issues... like stents surgery, back surgery... or a few tens for a very simple bone fracture... and that without considering a long stay in the hospital which cost is simply mindblowing.


This is how the insurance companies are stealing peoples houses now. Short stays after surgery (intentionally get inflated:Especially for older people unable to make decisions) start them on roads where they never go home. The amount of drugs they pump into them is amazing and they go home hooked.

The health care system is designed to take assets in this country.

BTW there are never any shared rooms available.


https://www.medicaidplanningassistance.org/nursing-home-costs/


You have to read all the clauses of your insurance policy, insurance companies normally do not take charge or do not include coverage if a pandemic is declared.

Most insurance runs out on nursing home stays as well and they happily start a revers mortgage for you.

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Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

So the alternative being fully socialising it would probably work better IN COMPARISON... Unless they manage to keep corrupting the system somehow... which probably they would.

Is there any country where a pure capitalist health system exist? If there is, I would like to know and compare costs.
Places like Vietnam, Bangladesh and such would come closed.
Angola, Pakistan.. have low spending on total GDP
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?name_desc=false

Edit2: Monaco spends the least on Health
Monaco 1.75% of GDP
Papua New Guinea 1.98% of GDP
Brunei  2.34% of GDP
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The situation in Italy: March 6, 2020, 6.00 p.m.
POSITIVE 3916
DECEASED 197
HEALED 523


Press conference of the Head of Civil Protection Angelo Borrelli at 6 pm on 6 March:

4636 people who contracted the virus, currently positive 3916, 197 died and 523 recovered.
Among the 3916 positives:

1060 are found in home isolation
2394 hospitalized with symptoms
462 in intensive care

SOURCE: Italian Health Minister


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The situation in Italy: March 7, 2020, 6.00 p.m.
POSITIVE 5061
DECEASED 233
HEALED 589


Press conference of the Head of Civil Protection Angelo Borrelli at 6 pm on 7 March:

5883 people who contracted the virus, currently positive 5061, 233 died and 589 recovered.
Among the 5061 positives:

1843 are found in home isolation
2651 hospitalized with symptoms
567 in intensive care

SOURCE: Italian Health Minister

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March 07, 2020, 06:04:54 PM

Look at the prices of medical procedures in the US. One would suppose that capitalism would manage to reduce prices due to competition as it does in most other sectors. But in this particular case it is not happening at all. How do you reconcile US not having universal health care and still having the biggest per person spend? It just doesn't make any sense.

Simple. Medicine in the US is a semi-socialized, government-market-distorted clusterfuck that has nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism.

So the an alternative being fully socialising it would probably work better IN COMPARISON...

FTFY.

It might work better. Might not.

Another alternative would be to tear down the market distorting regulations that serve nothing but entrenched interests. That might work better, too. Plus, it would have the benefit of being a more moral system, as it would not be predicated upon coercion.

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Unless they manage to keep corrupting the system somehow... which probably they would.

Aye. In either stated alternative.

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None come to mind.
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Bro, You are already active in "Speculation Section "(WO posts doesn't counts in any sig). I suggest try to explore Gambling section if its your cup of tea, then you are good to go.

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